Dave F's photos - ongoing - more added each day

[Market65]

Hi, DaveF, great to see the photo's of Leicester. Many summer extras to Bridlington and the East Coast of Yorkshire came through from Leicester. Included in them were Class 45's and Class 120 DMU's. Many thanks for these latest thought provoking photo's.

 

All the best,

 

Market65.

[DY444]

A visit to the Great Eastern today, Stratford in the 70s.

 

 

a Stratford LT 1962 stock westbound March 79 C4367.jpg

Stratford LT 1962 stock westbound March 79 C4367

 

David

 

Minor point but it's an Eastbound train

 

[brushman47544]

Now a few at Leicester in the days of BR blue and semaphores.

 

a Leicester 45075 up Presflos 9th Aug 77 C3429.jpg

Leicester 45075 up Presflos 9th Aug 77 C3429

 

 

The birdcage...many a happy hour spent spotting there in my youth.

 

EDIT for typos

Edited May 28, 2014 by brushman47544

[Oldddudders]

Sobering to note that Leicester, like a number of other key stations, had an overall roof, gone between your pair of pics in '75 and '77. I'm sure I'm not the only one to notice that sort of thing, which your pics so often show, and for which I'm always grateful. It isn't just the trains that have changed.

[lmsforever]

Thanks for the Barking shots used to change there when going to South Benfleet from Leyton Midland (on a workmens ticket ,my mum used to be worried we would get caught but we never were) I am watching a dvd on the Southend line right now not a great deal of change really.

[Peter Kazmierczak]

Love the shot of the Swindon Cross-Country unit beneath Leicester's former roof. You can almost smell the exhaust.....

[DaveF]

A few more on the Midland in Leicestershire for now.

 

Syston 2x Class 25 Bradford Exchange to Poole July 71 J2708

 

 

Syston Class 47 1617 Nottingham to St Pancras June 71 J2692

Why is the van a different shade of blue from the coaches?

 

Syston Class 120 Birmingham to Cambridge July 71 C657

 

 

Barrow on Soar Class 45 up mineral Aug 68 J1386

 

David

Edited May 28, 2014 by DaveF

[DaveF]

a bonus feature tonight!

 

A friend  e mailed me just after tea to ask if I had any photos of trains containing the Newton Chambers car carriers used on the ECML.

 

Once I'd sorted them out and sent them off I thought I put them on here.  Some are sharper than others.

They are not the normal Mk1 shape, they were 60' long and the body shape was different.  The original version was a bogie wagon design, this version had a coach body fitted with fibreglass roof panels.  2 cars fitted into the well between the bogies, which were lowered into position by  a hydraulic lift in each coach.  Four cars (or five small ones) fitted on the upper deck.  The coaches met RIV regulations and could be used on the continent via rail ferries.  The anchor can just about be made out on the side of one coach at York.

 

York car carriers on Kings X to Edinburgh train Aug 65 J225

 

 

Pilmoor Class 47 D1516 up car carrier Edinburgh to Kings X Sept 65 J379

 

 

Pilmoor Class 47 D1501 down Anglo Scottish Car Carrier June 67 J0925

 

 

Pilmoor Class 47 D1516 London to Perth Motorail July 67 J965

 

 

[Peter Kazmierczak]

David, don't think the x2 Cl.25s are on a Poole train if the headcode is 1M--. Possibly a Skeggy-Leicester working?

[Market65]

Hi, DaveF, another excellent set of photo's. Good to see the Newton Chambers car carriers, saw them myself at York when there in the late '60's. Also that class 120 DMU seems to have a plain blue trailer buffet car, which I think is quite rare.

Regarding the ex-LMS BG, the reason for the plain blue livery is that being non-passenger coaching stock, such vehicles were not given the 'inter-city' blue & grey. I think this is covered in the Mark1 carriage book, when liveries are being discussed.

Please do keep the photo's coming.

 

All the best,

 

Market65.

Edited May 28, 2014 by Market65

[The Stationmaster]

And a Midland Railway Distant Signal as well - definitely a bonus evening.  Thanks  (Mind you if I had been me doing the photting I wouldn't have bothered with the trains and would have used all the film on the signal )

[DaveF]

A few from Kings Cross in BR blue days tonight plus one other.

 

 

Kings Cross 47025, Class 31, Class 55, Class 47. Class 105 to Hitchin Sept 74 J4031

 

 

Kings Cross Derby suburban dmu and Class 47 Sept 74 J4033

 

 

Kings Cross 254005, Class 55 May 78 J6041

 

 

Kings Cross 55007 Pinza May 78 J6043

 

 

Kings Cross 31218 up ecs May 78 J6052

 

 

Lastly something a bit more unusual.  This memorial is just north of Essendine station (if it is still there), on the railway side of the fence by the road.  Dad did have permission to be on railway property to take the photo.

Essendine Memorial by railway May 1971 J2663

 

David

[RonnieS]

a bonus feature tonight!

 

A friend  e mailed me just after tea to ask if I had any photos of trains containing the Newton Chambers car carriers used on the ECML.

 

Once I'd sorted them out and sent them off I thought I put them on here.  Some are sharper than others.

They are not the normal Mk1 shape, they were 60' long and the body shape was different.  The original version was a bogie wagon design, this version had a coach body fitted with fibreglass roof panels.  2 cars fitted into the well between the bogies, which were lowered into position by  a hydraulic lift in each coach.  Four cars (or five small ones) fitted on the upper deck.  The coaches met RIV regulations and could be used on the continent via rail ferries.  The anchor can just about be made out on the side of one coach at York.

 

York car carriers on Kings X to Edinburgh train Aug 65 J225.jpg

York car carriers on Kings X to Edinburgh train Aug 65 J225

 

 

Pilmoor Class 47 D1516 up car carrier Edinburgh to Kings X Sept 65 J379.jpg

Pilmoor Class 47 D1516 up car carrier Edinburgh to Kings X Sept 65 J379

 

 

 

Southern Pride do kits of these in 4mm

[AberdeenBill]

What an epic set of pictures...    Where does one start in appreciating them (Mike has already noted the magnificent Midland distant :-) )?? .    Any idea what the working from the suburban platforms with head-code 1P66 is in picture J4033?   Oh to be transported back to King's Cross to see, hear and smell a Deltic clagging the place up as it departs...

 

Bill

[Market65]

Hi, daveF, what a terrific set of photo's of Kings Cross. You just do not get Deltics, 40's, 31's and 47's all working in and out of the station as in your photo's anymore. The DMU's are now largely EMU's. Times really have changed - seeing these photo's just emphases by how much. I nearly forgot that we still do have the HST's running. That last photo of the memorial is very moving indeed - to die so young - very sad.

 

All the best,

 

Market65.

[DaveF]

What an epic set of pictures...    Where does one start in appreciating them (Mike has already noted the magnificent Midland distant :-) )?? .    Any idea what the working from the suburban platforms with head-code 1P66 is in picture J4033?   Oh to be transported back to King's Cross to see, hear and smell a Deltic clagging the place up as it departs...

 

Bill

 

Sadly I don't have a working timetable for that  period.

 

In the fairly early days of four character headcodes "P" on Great Northern Lines denoted the destination area as being Barton/New Holland/Immingham - but all those sound unlikely with a Class 1 headcode.

 

But

This is from another thread on RM Web which is probably a better answer: (it is at  http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/20482-Heljan-lion/page-11  )  Posted by 31A on 21st April 2014 at 20.15

 

"All trains on the GN Suburban system originally carried the same headcodes in either direction; the headcodes indicated the line of route and starting / terminating points rather than direction or the individual WTT train identity.  However a short while before they finished they changed to being 1B66 in one direction, and 1P66 in the other direction.  I can't remember which direction was which, but I'm sure Stewart will know the details! 

 

A bit more on topic, I have certainly seen pictures of Falcon on 1B66, but don't remember seeing anything about Lion on that job; however as it worked from 34G quite possibly it could have been."

 

Hope this is some use.

 

David

[stewartingram]

1B66 certainly was the proper era headcode for Cambridge; unfortunately my era faded with the introduction of blue so I don't remember 1P66. However it is on the right side of the station, and a 47, so could be right!

 

Stewart

[RANGERS]

The memorial was still there, and well cared for, in 2011 as a photo on Flickr testifies.

 

https://www.flickr.com/photos/lemmo2009/5616320099/

 

I know the area well but this is the first I'd ever heard of this. A moving tribute to a life taken so young.

[DaveF]

A visit to Selby in the 1960s today.

 

 

Selby Class 40 D243 up empty ballast April 66 J475

 

 

Selby Class 55 Kings X to Edinburgh April 66 J476

 

 

Selby Class 47 up ex pass Aug 67 J1074

 

 

Selby view north Aug 67 J1075

 

David

[Peter Kazmierczak]

Interesing view alongside the Deltic on 1A46 David, is the edged "garden" area that the LNER introduced to smarten-up their linesides.

[Market65]

Hi, DaveF, what tremendous views of Selby. I know the station and area well, living not too far away from it(have cycled there many times). The class 40 D243 in  April '66 is particularly interesting. I've been working on a model of York's D285, and it is interesting to see detail differences - no bottom cutaways to the warning panels and an extra overhead warning flash on the nose end. In addition there are no shed plates carried at the number one end.

I agree with Western Sunset, it is good to see the concrete-edged garden area that the LNER was fond of in the pre-war era in the N.E. Area of the LNER. More photo's please.

 

All the best,

 

Market65.

[LNERGE]

Interesing view alongside the Deltic on 1A46 David, is the edged "garden" area that the LNER introduced to smarten-up their linesides.

My front garden is edged with same... Super stuff.

[DaveF]

Today's photos were taken at Ardwick, in Manchester.  It's the first station out from Piccadilly, on the Great Central route, just at the junction with the LNWR lines.

 

At the time I was a student living in Manchester, Ardwick was a "pleasant" cycle ride from my flat (which as a student at that time meant grotty bed-sit).  

 

It's taken me a while to check the captions on these images as I haven't been back there for over forty years (I wonder why!) and the area now bears little resemblance to 1971/2 so Google Earth was not all that much help.   Those who know the area better now may be able to amend/expand on them.

 

 

Ardwick Class 506 M59607M leading Manchester to Hadfield 8th May 1971 C589

Behind the brick building is the remains of the L&Y line which headed north and led to both Miles Platting and Stalybridge, with lots of other links.

 

 

Ardwick Class 40 D244 track train 8th May 1971 C593

This has left the main line towards Guide Bridge and is entering the GC Ardwick goods yard.  The new TPE Depot is now situated in this area.

 

 

Ardwick Class 506 M59406 from Hadfield 8th May 71 C595

 

 

Ardwick view to goods yard 8th May 71 C596

A view of the Great Central yard from the footbridge, I think the remains of the building bottom right was the carriage shed.  The distant viaduct carried the Midland Railway line from Ashburys West Junction on the GC to Midland Junction on the L&Y.  The line to the Midland Railway Ancoats gods depot was just in front of the viaduct beyond the GC sidings.

 

 

The last two were taken quite late on a January afternoon.

Ardwick Class 104 New Mills to Manchester Piccadilly January 1972 C0783

 

 

Ardwick Class 104 Manchester Piccadilly to Sheffield January 1972 C0788

 

Edited for poor typing once again.

David

Edited May 31, 2014 by DaveF

[SHMD]

Thanks so much Dave.

(The "Like" button just isn't enough sometimes!)

 

 

Kev.

[Hugh Flynn]

Well I have just looked through every page and got to say lots of cracking shots,

Thanks for sharing David.

 

Hugh