RMweb Gold Market65 Posted May 31, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 31, 2014 Hi, DaveF, thanks for these latest photo's. The view of Ardwick goods yard is full of detail and is very interesting. Good to see the class 506 EMU's - a solid workman-like design. The class 104 DMU puts me in mind of the Hornby/Bachmann hybrid twin that I've made. Good views of them at work. All the best, Market65. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberdeenBill Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 C596: never seen so many Conflats in my life! Was there some particular traffic at Ardwick that used them? Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted May 31, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted May 31, 2014 C596: never seen so many Conflats in my life! Was there some particular traffic at Ardwick that used them? Bill I've often wondered the same thing. I should have spent more time exploring the various goods yards in Manchester, but when you are young there are so many other things to do! David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 C596: never seen so many Conflats in my life! Was there some particular traffic at Ardwick that used them? Bill Lovely photograph, I think it is all too easy to overlook how important RCH standard container traffic was in the 1960s and early 70s. In September 1966 there were 14724 Conflat As (and a few Bs and Ds). And containers were frequently carried in open merchandise 5 and 3 plank wagons. The decline was very sharp, by 1977 only 1317 remained. Paul Bartlett Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted June 1, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted June 1, 2014 (edited) A visit to Yorkshire today for a look at two locations between Harrogate and Leeds. We lived in Harrogate for about three years before I went off to University but for some reason Dad and I rarely took photos on this line, we normally visited the S&C or the ECML. An opportunity missed again - but we didn't know how much things would change. Rigton level crossing Class 110 Manchester Exchange to Harrogate Dec 66 J700 Rigton level crossing signal box June 68 J1326 Rigton level crossing Class 101 Harrogate to Leeds June 68 J1327 Pannal Class 110 Leeds to Harrogate Sept 67 J1108 Pannal Class 101 Harrogate to Liverpool Aug 67 J1109 Edited to add a missing word David Edited June 1, 2014 by DaveF 31 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted June 1, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 1, 2014 Hi, DaveF, what superb photo's again. Thank goodness that you and your dad took the time to photograph all that you did. It really is of such historical importance. The class 110 DMU views are of interest - another Bachmann/Hornby project of mine - must try add some form of roof welds if I can. The 101 set at Pannal has a 104 TSL in it. followed by a 110 set. Thanks again for these excellent photo's. All the best, Market65. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
45568 Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 Another vote of thanks Dave! Check out the 110 in J1108, young boy in the right-hand seat of the cab! Son, nephew, or just a lucky devil? Cheers from Oz, Peter C. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted June 2, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 2, 2014 Some LT&S photos today around Leigh on Sea, to the west of Southend. Living in Basildon in the 70's I quite often went to Leigh on Sea at weekends to sample the produce from the various shellfish stalls and always took a few photos. At the time the local newspapers called the Tilbury line the "Misery Line" because of its alleged unreliabiity and poor rolling stock. As I wasn't a commuter I can only say that when I used the line, mainly at weekends, it was a reliable service. Most of the trains were Class 302 emus. Sometimes there was a 308. Local hauled trains were not common in daylight hours, an occasional excursion and sometimes a Class 31 on a parcels train to Southend East. Class 31 up parcels approaching Leigh on Sea old station March 77 C3257 This was taken as darkness fell. 302246 up pass near site of old station Leigh on Sea July77 C3378 302293 down pass going away between Leigh on Sea and Chalkwell Aug 77 C3537 Class 37 excurson to Southend just east of Leigh on Sea Aug77 C353 302268 down pass approaching site of old station Leigh on Sea 4th May 80 C5050 David 18 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmsforever Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 Excellent photos always like LT&SR pics ,any steam ones ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted June 2, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 2, 2014 Hi, DaveF, excellent views of the LT&SR. Good views of those class 302 EMU's. Please keep the photo's coming. All the best, Market65. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted June 2, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 2, 2014 Excellent photos always like LT&SR pics ,any steam ones ? Not on the Tilbury line, I didn't move down there until 1974. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted June 3, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 3, 2014 (edited) An extra one this afternoon of Dent, looking south. I happened to put this in another thread today and thought I'd add it here as well. Dent view south April 68 J1268 David Edited June 3, 2014 by DaveF 17 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_1066 Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 An extra one this afternoon of Dent, looking south. I happened to put this another thread today and thought I'd add it here as well. d Dent view south April 68 J1268.jpg Dent view south April 68 J1268 David That's the problem with set track curves - they look far too tight! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted June 3, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 3, 2014 Dent view south April 68 J1268 Snowfences - and is that a tripwire on the left embankment? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted June 3, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 3, 2014 (edited) Snowfences - and is that a tripwire on the left embankment? Ian, As far as I know these were the signal wires leading to the up distant signals. Up to 1940 there was an up distant very close to the southern portal of Rise Hill Tunnel (north of Dent) which was placed on the "wrong" ie down side of the track. In 1940 some resignalling was done, there were then two distant signals, one at 388 yards and one at 1217 yards, worked by levers 2 and 1 respectively, according to the signalling diagram in Stations and Structures of the Settle and Carlisle Railway (Anderson and Fox, OPC). In the diagram they are annotated as arm repeated, light repeated, normal contact. I was inside the box at Dent from time to time in the mid 60s and was shown everything but cannot now remember much of it! In those days visitors were often welcomed in more remote locations. I assume the somewhat unorthodox route for the wires was chosen at this time, perhaps clearances were tight along the front of the platform, or it may have been easier or a bit more reliable in bad weather - snow often drifted between the platforms at Dent. The wire run is visible to the north of Dent to the nearer signal in this image, running along the cutting side above the stone walling. Sadly I don't have any photos taken nearer Rise Hill Tunnel, nor can I find a good one on the web showing the other signal (but I found a poor one from someone's e Bay sale, not reproducible here). Dent view north from coal road bridge Aug 77 C3522 This link : http://www.foscl.org.uk/sites/foscl.org.uk/files/attachments/Dent-in-the-1950s.pdf is to a piece about Dent written by Rodney Hampson who was station master at Dent from March 1952 to September 1955, in it he desrcibes the two distant signals as the up outer and inner distants. David Edited to add a sentence and a link. D Edited June 3, 2014 by DaveF 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
br2975 Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 An extra one this afternoon of Dent, looking south. I happened to put this in another thread today and thought I'd add it here as well. d Dent view south April 68 J1268.jpg Dent view south April 68 J1268 David Invokes memories of David Jenkinson and Garsdale Road Brian R Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted June 3, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 3, 2014 I wouldn't be surprised if the signal wires were placed up on the bank like that to avoid them being damaged when snow was being cleared - they tended to have a fair bit of it up there in days back along and ploughing it was a regular feature. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted June 3, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 3, 2014 Dave, Mike - all makes great sense, thankyou both. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted June 3, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 3, 2014 (edited) Did this end up at Shirebrook or was that another one? Phil Edit to point out that this is Dave's pic, not mine ( several likes.....?) Edited June 11, 2014 by Mallard60022 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted June 3, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 3, 2014 (edited) My afternoon entertainment completed. There is a shot of Retford looking south a few pages back( P137), pre electrification and realignment that shows the Lincoln Platform lift tower in line with the main up platform (1) end. Today that tower is about 20/30 metres to the east of the main line. I wonder if it was rebuilt; surely not? P Edited June 3, 2014 by Mallard60022 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted June 3, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 3, 2014 Tonight a few on the LNWR climbing Shap and south thereof. The first two are from half frame slides, hence the quality (or lack of it). Taken before the M6 got in the way - but there were some very angry wasps about and one stung me. Dillicar troughs Class 47 Perth to Euston Aug 65 J304 Dillicar troughs Class 40 up Royal Scot Aug 65 J307 Note the second coach behind the Clas 40 Scout Green LMS Class 5 45053 up fitted freight Aug 65 J310 Scout Green 2x Class 50 down Royal Scot Feb 73 C1200 These were taken just after work started on the M6. Beckfoot Class 47 D1950 down Royal scot April 68 J1256 Beckfoot Class 47 D1854 Glasgow to Euston April 68 J1262 David 19 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted June 3, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 3, 2014 My afternoon entertainment completed. There is a shot of Retford looking south a few pages back( P137), pre electrification and realignment that shows the Lincoln Platform lift tower in line with the main up platform (1) end. Today that tower is about 20/30 metres to the east of the main line. I wonder if it was rebuilt; surely not? P My most recent photo at Retford was taken in 2000, it doesn't quite show the lift but it is clear it has moved - along with a lot of other changes! Retford GNER Class 91 down ex pass 25th July 2000 C24974 The photo the comment is about is repeated below to save anyone scrolling back to find it. Retford Class 47 Kings X to Newcastle in heavy rain Feb 72 C0844 David 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted June 3, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 3, 2014 Did this end up at Shirebrook or was that another one? Phil I don't know about Shirebrook but in 1969 it was seen at Gateshead. It was also at Old Oak Common and moved to Marylebone in 1985, being used for pre heating stock for the steam hauled charters operating then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted June 3, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 3, 2014 My most recent photo at Retford was taken in 2000, it doesn't quite show the lift but it is clear it has moved - along with a lot of other changes! Retford GNER Class 91 down ex pass 25th July 2000 C24974.jpg Retford GNER Class 91 down ex pass 25th July 2000 C24974 The photo the comment is about is repeated below to save anyone scrolling back to find it. r Retford Class 47 Kings X to Newcastle in heavy rain Feb 72 C0844.jpg Retford Class 47 Kings X to Newcastle in heavy rain Feb 72 C0844 David Clearly moved. Thanks Dave. I speculate that this was the access to the platform for Lincoln and maybe there was a foot bridge to P4 Sheffield, but also it could have been a foot crossing? However there appears to be another path to the right of the 'Lift' path; perhaps that's where the original footbridge was? As you know there is a footbridge for P4 now, east of the lift tower. Thanks for bothering to do this comparison Dave. Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted June 3, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 3, 2014 Hi, Dave, I think that the second coach behind that class 40 is one of the 1957 Prototypes - I could be wrong! I like the view of Dent. My very first thought on seeing it was also to think of the great David Jenkinson. Great photo's, really enjoying what you are posting and please keep them coming. All the best, Market65. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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