RMweb Premium Davexoc Posted April 6, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Enterprisingwestern said: C1143 is a generator I think? Dummy ETH recepticle in the wrong place for a generator. They had them on the buffer beam lower down. Dave 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deltic17 Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 On 02/04/2020 at 22:04, LNERGE said: Whatever is going on in the sidings has caught just about everybody's attention in the first coach.. the class 47 is 47271 I believe 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted April 6, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Davexoc said: Dummy ETH recepticle in the wrong place for a generator. They had them on the buffer beam lower down. Dave You know,, I was wary of posting that, I couldn't offhand remember which was which, but went SOB and got the latter! Mike. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waverley47708 Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 (edited) 16 hours ago, brushman47544 said: Hi Dave, J4001 is not 55008. The nameplate is too high and has no crest. It’s a HA loco and the only one with single line of text to have lost it’s crest so early was 55013. Brilliant, when I saw the photo I thought I bet there is a query over the identity! Out of interest what gives away it was a HA loco? Maybe David is just having fun and deliberately miss identifying the Deltics. I'm always amazed at the people's ability to ID photos of Deltics. Perhaps that's because 47s are my favourites and it's not always so easy to pick out which is which since there was more than 22 of them. Mind you there was only 16 or possibly 17 47/7s, so I may have a fighting chance with them. Keep up the good work David and the Deltic fans. Edited April 7, 2020 by Waverley47708 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted April 7, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted April 7, 2020 First, a note about my loco identifications on the photos. Usually both Dad and I made notes of which locos we photographed, but not always. If we hadn't made a note at the time we tried to work out the loco number by looking at the slide - niot always correctly, hence the mistakes in some captions. Now for the photos for today, taken at Morpeth. Morpeth 37005 down in yard Aug 80 J7050.jpg Morpeth 37082 up ballast Aug 80 J7056.jpg Morpeth 31264 Berwick to Newcastle July 89 J10062.jpg Morpeth 43097 down 22nd July 89 C12164.jpg Morpeth Class 91 91007 up 8th Jan 94 C19266.jpg David 45 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted April 7, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 7, 2020 Good afternoon, David. I like the Morpeth photo’s which are all of interest and nostalgia. In J10062, with 31264 on a Berwick to Newcastle service, in July, 1989, you have another good example of a Pacer replacement. With warmest regards, Rob. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
talisman56 Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Market65 said: Good afternoon, David. I like the Morpeth photo’s which are all of interest and nostalgia. In J10062, with 31264 on a Berwick to Newcastle service, in July, 1989, you have another good example of a Pacer replacement. With warmest regards, Rob. Probably better appreciated than the normal stock, I would have thought... Regarding loco identification, having been brought up south of the river in the Capital, my ongoing 'expertise' is in SR and BR(S) loco/rolling stock identification. The discussions on the possible numbers of the Deltics, 47s et al and the reasoning thereby is a constant source of further education on matters outwith my original railway knowledge... Many thanks, chaps. Edited April 7, 2020 by talisman56 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted April 7, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 7, 2020 9 hours ago, Waverley47708 said: Brilliant, when I saw the photo I thought I bet there is a query over the identity! Out of interest what gives away it was a HA loco? HA locos had Scottish regiment names on square-cornered nameplates with large letters. Originally they had crests above the names but many lost them in later years. GD engines had English regiment names on rounded-corner nameplates with letters in a different more curved font. FP racehorses had nameplates of the same design as the HA ones but obviously much shorter so easily distinguished. 1 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waverley47708 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 11 hours ago, brushman47544 said: HA locos had Scottish regiment names on square-cornered nameplates with large letters. Originally they had crests above the names but many lost them in later years. GD engines had English regiment names on rounded-corner nameplates with letters in a different more curved font. FP racehorses had nameplates of the same design as the HA ones but obviously much shorter so easily distinguished. Thanks for that, was aware of the Scottish / English Regiment and Racehorse name difference but was unaware of the different style of nameplate or thought about the shortness of the racehorse nameplate. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted April 8, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted April 8, 2020 (edited) Today's photos are taken heading north from Darlington along the ECML. Darlington 47443 Liverpool to Newcastle 12th May 90 C14457.jpg Bradbury Classes 82/2 and 91 up 8th May 93 C18536.jpg Croxdale 37095 up p w 16th Oct 93 C19141.jpg Durham up HST Oct 86 J8717.jpg Low Fell 37516 up Alcan ingots 28th June 88 C9557.jpg David Edited April 8, 2020 by DaveF 47 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 Not sure about those Alcan ingots; I think they're more likely to be steel ingots from Ravenscraig. The wagons are a bit over-specified for what would be a relatively light load, which is why Bolster Ds, BMA and BNA were normally used. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
35A Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 9 hours ago, Waverley47708 said: Thanks for that, was aware of the Scottish / English Regiment and Racehorse name difference but was unaware of the different style of nameplate or thought about the shortness of the racehorse nameplate. The racehorses and the Scottish regiment plates were cast in aluminium, whilst the English regiment plates were cast in brass. I believe that the font used was Clarendon Bold, using a smaller font size for the English regiments. The plates were all cast at Glasgow Works, IIRC. Unusually, for the Deltics, the detail of this area of the locos is not very well documented anywhere. 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted April 8, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 8, 2020 Good afternoon, David. I like the photo’s going north from Darlington along the ECML. The first photo’ of Darlington, with 47443 on a Liverpool to Newcastle service, on the 12th May, 1990, shows a purposeful get away from Darlington by the 47, and there’s some work being undertaken. I’m guessing it must have been something to do with the drainage of the track. With warmest regards, Rob. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyewipe Jct Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 Sobering to think that in the last two sets of photos posted, even the most 'modern' shot is now over a quarter of a century old. Feels like yesterday... 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted April 9, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted April 9, 2020 (edited) Back to the Grantham to Nottingham line at Bottseford this afternoon. Bottesford 47004 Parkeston Quay to ManchesterNov 80 J7281.jpg Bottesford 47138 Parkeston Quay to Manchester Aug 81 J7527.jpg Bottesford Class 114 Grantham to Derby Aug 81 J7534.jpg Bottesford 150105 Grantham to Crewe May 87 J8905.jpg Bottesford West Junction 47458 Burton on Trent to Skegness May 87 J8907.jpg David Edited April 9, 2020 by DaveF 45 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted April 9, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 9, 2020 J7281 The Class 47 has no ETH and is 47004. The BG is interesting in that it is branded Express Parcels, which is unusual to appear in a passenger train. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNERGE Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 45 minutes ago, brushman47544 said: J7281 The Class 47 has no ETH and is 47004. The BG is interesting in that it is branded Express Parcels, which is unusual to appear in a passenger train. It wasn't alone.. 12 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted April 9, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 9, 2020 Good afternoon, David. I like the Bottesford photo’s all of which are full of interest. In J7534, with a class 114 DMU on a Grantham to Derby service, in August, 1981, you can see that some of the roof ventilators are missing from the DMBS. I know that on these units some were missing in later years, especially after refurbishment. With warmest regards, Rob. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted April 10, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted April 10, 2020 (edited) Just for a change I thought we'd have some "preserved" loco photos today. They were taken on the High Dyke branch and ironstone lines after quarrying had ended and British Rail had closed the branch. However there were still workings to and from High Dyke Junction from time to time to exchange stock and bring in ballast and track materials for the proposed preserved railway. The first three photos were taken on the BR line, the Sewstern photos were on ex British Steel lines. The photos were taken with permission to be trackside Burton Lane crossing D2381 with Crewe cab and track panels Aug 74 J4023.jpg Burton Lane crossing crossing Avonside 0-4-0ST Fred taking water Aug 74 J4004.jpg The fire engine was a preserved one. Stainby Glebe McAlpine Hunslet 0-6-0DS empty wagons to High Dyke June 74 J3761.jpg Sewstern Bass Charrington No5 ballast to Market Overton April 73 J3174.jpg Sewstern Barclay 0-6-0T Harlaxton Dec 73 J3501.jpg David Edited April 10, 2020 by DaveF 37 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmsforever Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 What happened to the High Dyke preservation project it would have been a brilliant line . 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted April 10, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 10, 2020 Good afternoon, David. I like the High Dyke branch photo’s which add more to the story of the failed preservation attempt. In, J3174, at Sewstern, with Bass Charrington, number 5, on a ballast train to Market Overton, in April, 1973, you have a lovely little engine hauling those wagons, which shows preserved lines don’t always have to have passenger trains running. Freight and other trains make excellent subjects for the camera too, albeit they won’t bring in too much revenue. With warmest regards, Rob. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted April 10, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted April 10, 2020 2 hours ago, lmsforever said: What happened to the High Dyke preservation project it would have been a brilliant line . It would not have been viable, especially in the economic circumstances at the time David 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted April 11, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted April 11, 2020 A few photos taken around Cambois for this afternoon. Cambois Blyth west staithes July 80 J7041. Cambois April 86 J8551 2 Class 08s Cambois Blyth Power station 2 Class 56s July 87 J9100.jpg Cambois 08512 and 08421 29th June 89 C12090.jpg Cambois 56079 16th April 92 C16754 David 43 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted April 11, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 11, 2020 Good afternoon, David. I like the Cambois photo’s. They are all of interest, and nostalgia too. In C12009, 08512 and 08421, on the 29th June, 1989, look so natural as part of the overall background. More so than most road vehicles. A moody sky too, with perhaps a storm not far away. With warmest regards, Rob. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted April 11, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 11, 2020 23 hours ago, DaveF said: It would not have been viable, especially in the economic circumstances at the time David I think there was a perception that a heritage line had to be in a tourist area to succeed, and indeed many of the successful ones are in such areas. Even the SVR is well within daytrip range of the Birmingham/Wolverhampton conurbation and scenically attractive. The GCR stands out as a mainline operation in not particularly scenic surroundings, showing that this aspect is not essential. The High Dyke operation was never going to be a large scale one, basically an industrial branch with no main line junction, but railways of this sort have proved successful, such as the Middleton, and Blaenafon and Pontypool, the latter associated with the popular Big Pit museum. Nobody goes there for the scenery... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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