RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted May 11, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 11, 2017 No - zimmer with a pannier (no, not that sort...) on the front. I have been no weight bearing for 3 months, so had to hop everywhere. Grim. Parcel should be in Douglas sorting office now..... You have my sympathy - I dislocated a tendon whilst firing 76017 on New Year's eve. 7 weeks in a non weight bearing cast, 2 weeks in an air boot and now intensive physio. I have been told it is another 4-7 months for it to get as good as it will ever be. I still walk with a limp at times when it gets tired and starts to swell. I can do everything that I used to do, but not for so long at the moment. Best wishes for your recovery and do everything the physio tells you to when you get to that stage. I have a friend who didn't and she will suffer even more I later life than she would have done otherwise. Roy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRman Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Hmmm. I just received notification that one is on its way, but I ordered a second one somewhat later. To me it would have made sense to send both in the one package, but maybe the system doesn't pick up the two separate orders in that way.Still, it's exciting! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium New Haven Neil Posted May 11, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 11, 2017 You have my sympathy - I dislocated a tendon whilst firing 76017 on New Year's eve. 7 weeks in a non weight bearing cast, 2 weeks in an air boot and now intensive physio. I have been told it is another 4-7 months for it to get as good as it will ever be. I still walk with a limp at times when it gets tired and starts to swell. I can do everything that I used to do, but not for so long at the moment. Best wishes for your recovery and do everything the physio tells you to when you get to that stage. I have a friend who didn't and she will suffer even more I later life than she would have done otherwise. Roy Continued by PM to save mucking the thread up any more! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrestburyJack Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Oh no - just unwrapped mine from a very well wrapped jiffy bag to find that the tissue paper the box is wrapped in has a tear in it - can I have a refund please? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrestburyJack Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Oh no - just unwrapped mine from a very well wrapped jiffy bag to find that the tissue paper the box is wrapped in has a tear in it - can I have a refund please? On second thoughts - tissue paper ripped off and consigned to the bin! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoverPriory Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 No signs of my three yet. But then I was one of the last to receive my first SLW Class 24. Perhaps it's my infamous background catching up with me again. I am supposed to be related to that infamous spy Guy Burgess (or Guy if you can remember that excellent ITV series called Brass starring Timothy West). My paternal grandmother worked in a domestic capacity for the Burgess family and my father was certainly born at the end of a period of service with the Burgess family. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroomy Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Oh well as no more information was forth coming phoned hattons again and got hoping to be in next Tuesday Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Budgie Posted May 11, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 11, 2017 Mine arrived this morning, and it will be running in from 3 o'clock. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
34069 Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Got mine today, looks the biz ! Not run yet. Thanks DJ, Well worth waiting for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RFS Posted May 11, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 11, 2017 Got my E5004 today but unfortunately when I unpacked it I found it had a very noticeable smudge of dark grey or black paint on the roof that was clearly visible whichever way you looked at it. A cotton wool bud moistened with clean water wouldn't shift it. Looks like a basic QC issue at the Chinese factory. Called Kernow who advised sending it back for replacement and it's on its way now.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR(S) Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Oh well as no more information was forth coming phoned hattons again and got hoping to be in next Tuesday They have their own RMweb thread: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/112300-exclusive-golden-arrow-class-71s/?p=2718545 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigherb Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Mine's arrived, luckily along with a new tripod I must stop leaving mine down mines. Here's some pictures once I got through the packaging, jiffy bags and brown tape are a pig to find where to start. All taken with a fill in flash some with the one from the big H. It's had a spot of lube and running in now. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted May 11, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 11, 2017 Very nice. The Hornby Green definitely has more of a teal shade to it than the DJ Models one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wigan Wallgate OO Gauge Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 I'd say the DJ wins for detail Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJM Dave Posted May 11, 2017 Author Share Posted May 11, 2017 If anyone wants to paint the super tiny details in the cab as it's easily removable, I'll be putting the class 71 detail pics I took during scanning on my zenfolio site for you to use tomorrow. I'll put a link here for them all, so you can tweek whatever you need to. Cheers Dave 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lofty1966 Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Quite the difference in cab corner shapes ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGP Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 (edited) Quite the difference in cab corner shapes ! But which one is right? Neither but I'd say the Hornby one is closest there (or it could be the angle of the photo ... which is slightly off centre). I'm doing E5000 (I only do prototypes and first of class for display) so I'm going to have to do a bit of filing on the rain guttering which looks a bit too proud on the DJM version anyway. Good and bad points on both but if I'm going to have to hack one about, repaint and renumber, I might get the Hornby one and sell the crowdfunded one. The overall look of the DJM version is better so hopefully it will become available as E5000 without guttering at a later date. Edited May 11, 2017 by SGP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR(S) Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 That is actually an amazing difference between the Hornby and DJM models. For me, the DJM model looks much better and it makes the Hornby one look quite toy like. If that's the quality we can expect with the Class 92, I'll be really pleased. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Vistisen Posted May 12, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 12, 2017 (edited) I'm an novice, I know nothing about the class 71, and I do not know which one of the models in the photos in #1542 is Hornby and which is the DJM model. So this is a double blind observation, but comparing both these models to the photo in #1547 then the model to the right in the last photo of post #1542 best captures the complex curving slope of the cab, now someone please tell me which model I have just declared the winner? Edited May 12, 2017 by Vistiaen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted May 12, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 12, 2017 To be quite honest I am in two minds which is the best shape. One photo of the real thing and I think it is Hornby's, another and I would say DJ's. Whichever, I look forward to my two blue ones arriving. Roy PS, why no photos of blue ones yet? Hint, hint... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southernman46 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 (edited) Is everybody bracing themselves for the next stage ............................. "the great comparison" ?? Hmmmmmmmmmmm ! They're both good - it's just a shame H couldn't have used their vast resource to have done something else like a 4-CIG (waiting to go out and photo the Robeston - Theale tanks on the Up run - Mrs SM thinks I'm soft in the head) Edited May 12, 2017 by Southernman46 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 What is amazing about the real thing, is that the draftsman who drew the complex shape of the original cab, did so on paper and without CAD! Which was then fabricated by hand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titan Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 (edited) I don't have much of an interest in 71's, but I find this thread fascinating! Both models are superb, and yet both models have errors, some being different errors on the same part! A few examples - the rain gutter on the DJM model is a bit too pronounced, but on the Hornby model is almost non-existent! The beading around the cab windows is a little heavy on the DJM model, but again almost non-existent on the Hornby model. The buffer beam detail is far superior on the DJM model, except the draw hook is too high - should be on the centre line of the buffers like the Hornby model. The bogie detail on the DJM model is breathtaking - yet it is missing the body to bogie brackets that the Hornby model has. I am sure there will be many other differences apart from those already mentioned that will come to light as the locos are inevitably compared. Now the above is hopefully my unbiased opinion, others will no doubt differ. In short there is enough differences on both models such that I expect there will be strong advocates of either and the arguments over which is best could be never ending! Edited May 12, 2017 by Titan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 (edited) I'm an novice, I know nothing about the class 71, and I do not know which one of the models in the photos in #1542 is Hornby and which is the DJM model. So this is a double blind observation, but comparing both these models to the photo in #1547 then the model to the right in the last photo of post #1542 best captures the complex curving slope of the cab, now someone please tell me which model I have just declared the winner? From those perspectives, I would agree, however I found a photo of a 74 (cab shape is the same as a 71 but there are lots of detail differences, especially with the valences) which would imply the DJM one https://www.flickr.com/photos/8708923@N03/10440706616/in/pool-1541906@N21/ The problem with such shape comparisons, is that photos of the real thing and the models are not taken at the exact same angles. The Models being photoed slightly from above, the real from just below or a 1/3 from up the height of the loco. And those yellow fronts on blue ones don't make it easier... Edit: just noticed the cab corner vents are gone and patched over. Found a second pic showing the same http://www.eastbank.org.uk/images/CL74/SR0213.jpg and here is one with, but has had a dent: http://www.eastbank.org.uk/images/CL74/SR0216.jpg Did not realise 74s can be so variable and exciting! Edited May 12, 2017 by JSpencer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJM Dave Posted May 12, 2017 Author Share Posted May 12, 2017 I don't have much of an interest in 71's, but I find this thread fascinating! Both models are superb, and yet both models have errors, some being different errors on the same part! A few examples - the rain gutter on the DJM model is a bit too pronounced, but on the Hornby model is almost non-existent! The beading around the cab windows is a little heavy on the DJM model, but again almost non-existent on the Hornby model. The buffer beam detail is far superior on the DJM model, except the draw hook is too high - should be on the centre line of the buffers like the Hornby model. The bogie detail on the DJM model is breathtaking - yet it is missing the body to bogie brackets that the Hornby model has. Now the above is hopefully my unbiased opinion, others will no doubt differ. In short there is enough differences on both models such that I expect there will be strong advocates of either and the arguments over which is best could be never ending! Hi, To clarify the bogie brackets are in an accessory bag within the box the loco comes in. Because my bogies are to the correct width for the real thing, to mount them during construction would be problematical for those with tight radius curves. (It wouldn't go round them) so by allowing the purchaser to fit their own, they can fettle and test on their particular track. Somewhere around the first 1/4 of this long thread there's mention of this. HTH Cheers Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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