34theletterbetweenB&D Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Well the Operations and Maintenance leaflet is now online ... The reference to potential solvent damage to the applied paint is welcome news. Implies to me that the tampo printed numbers etc will be easily removeable, just the ticket if that's going to be a general feature of the range. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 The reference to potential solvent damage to the applied paint is welcome news. Implies to me that the tampo printed numbers etc will be easily removeable, just the ticket if that's going to be a general feature of the range. I personally would not interpret it as such. Solvents and RTR models do not mix, whether or not it means the model will be easy or hard to renumber, we will have to wait and see. From the operations leaflet, a seems that a weakness of the Oxford design is the DCC chip socket. While there exists some 8 pin designs that are not much bigger than the socket they replace, this limits us to plain DCC and there seems to be no proviso for a classic 8 pin chip with leads. Converting one to sound will require hard soldering a 6 pin but where will you place the chip is another question. It will probably be too big for the bunker and you still need to find space for a speaker (maybe a small zimo will squeeze in). I doubt Hornby will be better here though. Only DJM seem to design their small tank locos with DCC sound in mind at this time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted August 19, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 19, 2015 Id say a sugar cube speaker would be the best bet. Might be able to camouflage it in the cab somehow? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
34theletterbetweenB&D Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 ...From the operations leaflet, a seems that a weakness of the Oxford design is the DCC chip socket. While there exists some 8 pin designs that are not much bigger than the socket they replace, this limits us to plain DCC and there seems to be no proviso for a classic 8 pin chip with leads... At least the socket is in a useful place, bunkers with their typically cuboid void are a pretty easy location for a decoder. Cannot tell from the diagram what space will be available, First thoughts would be plugging in an 8 pin wired type, then winding the wire bundle round the socket and putting the decoder flat on top of the plug. If there is insufficient space for that it is easy enough to create more space. On many models removing a socket from its mounting or removing the socket entirely and hardwiring are good options. (I usually want to get more weight in rather than a speaker, but the principle is the same: remove anything bulky from the useful voids inside the model.) The significant aspect is that with all the wiring coming to the bunker for the socket, there's what is most likely the roomiest cuboid void on the loco neatly available for a decoder location. (If the Adams loco design proves too small to accomodate current speaker designs out of sight, that's not the fault of the model!) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 I believe the DJM O2 will have space for chip in the smokebox and speaker in the bunker. A 6 pin socket would be best for a model like the radial. I would avoid bulky 8 pin designs all together. I will see when the model comes out what can be done however... Bachmanns E4, a somewhat bigger tank, has space to plug a 6 pin. Removing the 6 pin holder gives space for a speaker providing you hard solder it. but how much better would it have been if Bachmann had left the bunker space clear for this ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJM Dave Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 I believe the DJM O2 will have space for chip in the smokebox and speaker in the bunker. A 6 pin socket would be best for a model like the radial. I would avoid bulky 8 pin designs all together. I will see when the model comes out what can be done however... Bachmanns E4, a somewhat bigger tank, has space to plug a 6 pin. Removing the 6 pin holder gives space for a speaker providing you hard solder it. but how much better would it have been if Bachmann had left the bunker space clear for this ? Hi, The Kernow O2 has a 6 pin dcc decoder socket in the smoke box and has 2 wires running to the bunker from the decoder board, to the cavity engineered in the bunker for a sugar cube speaker. Hope this helps Cheer Dave 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDJR7F88 Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Am I right in saying both BR Version ran on the Lyme Regis Branch? Sorry if this has been mentioned before... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted September 15, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 15, 2015 (edited) Am I right in saying both BR Version ran on the Lyme Regis Branch? Sorry if this has been mentioned before... Yes, but not at the same time...... The illustrations so far published show both 30583 and 30584 with the tall Adams dome and there was only one surviving boiler so fitted. By the time 30583 got it in 1959, 30584 had the other Adams boiler with a lower dome. 30584 had the tall dome up to September 1954.. The boiler with the tall dome seems to have been out of use between 1954 and 1959. 30582 and 30583 carried Drummond boilers (safety valves on domes) throughout that period. If they arrive the way they are pictured, I'll be slicing a bit out of the dome on 30584. John * edited to remove possible ambiguity * Edited September 15, 2015 by Dunsignalling Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest spet0114 Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Tim Mulhall of Oxford Rail said The livery samples arrived through customs as late as Friday afternoon before being driven up to me at the show on Saturday. On Sunday they were then handed over to one of our researches so they can be carefully checked for further development of the livery and cosmetic components. We’ll issue pictures as soon as we have those reviewed and know what items on them are being enhanced further. Did the promised pictures ever get issued? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty.J Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 Did the promised pictures ever get issued? Not as far as I can remember....! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren01 Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 Would be good to get an update on where we are?. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jol Wilkinson Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 Would be good to get an update on where we are?. I'm in Suffolk. Does that help? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted October 12, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 12, 2015 I'm in Suffolk. Does that help? Bless you!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebell Model Railway Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 Hasn't been much information, last saw them in June when they had samples and decorated samples at the Bluebell that was in June, and the livery samples were due to be checked over, did have a due date email from Hattons saying November I think it was they were due.... but apart from that nothing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted October 13, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 13, 2015 Stand by for Warley then....... Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest spet0114 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Stand by for Warley then....... Rob. Awwww! But that's ages away! I wanna update nooooowwwwww....... :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
34theletterbetweenB&D Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Here's an unofficial update: they are working hard on it. If anyone interested goes back to look at the published photos up thread taken when the EP was exhibited there are several poor fits in evidence between the bodywork components. Along with testing ease of assembly for the operator, that's a major part of what an EP is intended to explore, are all the fits correct? If not, then it's 'revise the tooling to correct the fits' time, followed by another EP. And there's what they are working hard at in my opinion, to achieve the planned release date. As for the non-appearance of photos of the liveried samples, on body assemblies roughly contemporary with the EP? My guess might be that they felt they really were not good enough for public release at that stage. A wise move if that's the case, to avoid a shitstorm of uninformed criticism. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeharvey22 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 And Oxford's MD has been at the factory in China earlier this month, or he said he would be when he unveiled the next diecast release programme about 12 days ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Burgess Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Well the Operations and Maintenance leaflet is now online. That seems like a good sign to me. http://www.oxfordrail.com/76/leaflets/OR76AR%20Maint%20Sheet.pdf If anyone has a copy of the Maintenance Sheet per the above, I would be grateful if they could send it to me. When I tried this link it just about froze the computer, eventually downloading the first of the two landscape pages before the browser quit. My address - tandn@burgesstribe.co.uk Many thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
amdaley Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 If anyone has a copy of the Maintenance Sheet per the above, I would be grateful if they could send it to me. When I tried this link it just about froze the computer, eventually downloading the first of the two landscape pages before the browser quit. My address - tandn@burgesstribe.co.uk Many thanks You should have that now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrymx5 Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 So Warley it is for Radial updates? Both Oxford and Hornby. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Both makes have been fairly quiet lately. I suspect we are getting close to release on both. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebell Model Railway Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 (edited) Nothing from Oxford since a hattons email saying November / December delivery, Hornby, have shown painted samples on their website believe they were targeting December. Edited November 7, 2015 by Bluebell Model Railway Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrymx5 Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 My bank balance is no hurry. Both the S15 and O2 hit my cc bill last month. As did Bachmann Parcels van. Bit like number 11 buses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spannerman Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 My bank balance is no hurry. Both the S15 and O2 hit my cc bill last month. As did Bachmann Parcels van. Bit like number 11 buses. I know that feeling, an S15 a long awaited E4 this month and a 02 due in December. The longer they take with the Adams the better. Atb Nik Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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