RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted November 16, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 16, 2015 (edited) My bank balance is no hurry. Both the S15 and O2 hit my cc bill last month. As did Bachmann Parcels van. Bit like number 11 buses. All of the above times two for me. I anticipate coming home later this week with the second of my S15s, the two PLVs, a Hawksworth Auto-trailer * and a 7mm Dapol Terrier. Fortunately, I had an uncharacteristic attack of foresight (or, more probably, a characteristic one of fatalism ). As the usual trickle (by historic standards) of SR announcements gradually developed into a healthy stream, I guessed that Murphy's Law would guarantee grouped arrivals and began to prepare for it. Manufacturing delays have been my friend and (I think) I have everything anticipated up to the end of the year covered. Mind you, with three Adams Radials (two from Oxford), a Schools, two (maybe three) Bulleid Pacifics, a DJM 14xx * and various coaches still to come over the next few months, it will be a close run thing in early 2016! John * EDIT: "My" bit of the Southern went over to the Dark Side at the end of 1962. Edited November 16, 2015 by Dunsignalling 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebell Model Railway Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Just spotted on Twitter decorated Oxford Radial BR OR76AR001https://twitter.com/Gaugemaster Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Hawkins Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 That looks rather nice to say the least, only problem I can see though is which of the three models to buy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebell Model Railway Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Indeed doesn't look bad, shame about the metal block going between the chassis and the bottom of the boiler that's slight disappointing, but it looks pretty good, nice cab details, not sure on the hand rails of smoke-box dart, but not bad... sadly haven't shared much info since they were first announced.Also images on their website: http://www.oxfordrail.com/76/OR76AR001.htm 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil gollin Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 (edited) ........... only problem I can see though is which of the three models to buy. . No, the only problem is HOW MANY OF EACH model to buy. . Edited November 18, 2015 by phil gollin 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Bigcheeseplant Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 (edited) I can't quite put my finger on it and maybe its just me but it looks chunky and the lining heavy, the silver painted handrails look odd too. Edited November 18, 2015 by David Bigcheeseplant Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold teaky Posted November 18, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 18, 2015 I can't quite put my finger on it and maybe its just me but it looks chunky and the lining heavy, the silver painted handrails look odd too. I agree but I think it is just the silver that makes the handrails look wrong. The smokebox dart looks clumsy too. Both easily fixed with a touch of black paint I expect. If one is on show at Warley, it would be interesting to see some alternative photographs. Perhaps the lining and brass fittings are being over emphasised by bright photographic lighting? It occurs to me that the rail also looks chunky. Is there some odd photographic distortion going on here? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted November 18, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 18, 2015 It occurs to me that the rail also looks chunky. Is there some odd photographic distortion going on here? Nah - it's Hornby set-track............ Cheers, Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozexpatriate Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 (edited) That looks rather nice to say the least, only problem I can see though is which of the three models to buy. None for me - until someone releases one in an SR livery. Edited November 18, 2015 by Ozexpatriate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 (edited) Very aesthetically pleasing.Although, and it may just be to my eye, something about the 'face' of the engine looks wrong. It appears to me that the Smokebox number plate is mounted marginally too high, as the bottom right-hand corner should just be touching the Higher Smokebox Door-hinge. A minor error, but I can't help but feel it spoils the 'face' a little. See: https://froxfield2012.smugmug.com/BRSouthernRegion/BR-Southern-Region-1950s/i-pnff6PG/0/L/30583%20Lyme%20Regis%201955-L.jpg Also, the tyres on the bogie wheels look rather thick...Regards,Matt Edited November 18, 2015 by TheSoutherner Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted November 18, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 18, 2015 I have to say that my first choice was to be the Hornby Radial and I have seen nothing here to convince me otherwise. Oxford needed to nail this and, to me at least, they appear a little wide of the mark. Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
locoholic Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 I'm inclined to buy the Oxford version, just to encourage them to make further models. Hornby have had enough money off me recently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adams442T Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Indeed doesn't look bad, shame about the metal block going between the chassis and the bottom of the boiler that's slight disappointing, but it looks pretty good, nice cab details, not sure on the hand rails of smoke-box dart, but not bad... sadly haven't shared much info since they were first announced. Also images on their website: http://www.oxfordrail.com/76/OR76AR001.htm Very aesthetically pleasing. Although, and it may just be to my eye, something about the 'face' of the engine looks wrong. It appears to me that the Smokebox number plate is mounted marginally too high, as the bottom right-hand corner should just be touching the Higher Smokebox Door-hinge. A minor error, but I can't help but feel it spoils the 'face' a little. See: https://froxfield2012.smugmug.com/BRSouthernRegion/BR-Southern-Region-1950s/i-pnff6PG/0/L/30583%20Lyme%20Regis%201955-L.jpg Also, the tyres on the bogie wheels look rather thick... Regards, Matt To be fair the Hornby pictures show side views and, on recent form, their bogie wheels are likely to be just as thick. That also doesn't really affect me as it will be EM'd as soon as possible anyway. But for me, if the Oxford Rail model doesn't have daylight under the boiler, that will clinch it. A shame if that's the case because I was looking forward to another quality manufacturer emerging. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butler Henderson Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Another loco with a "highly detailed cab interior" yet as with my 02 once you stick a driver and fireman in it a basic cab interior that we have for years is almost as equally effective. A bit of Design Clever would work well here especially if instead a well detailed crew were to be provided. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted November 18, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 18, 2015 Very aesthetically pleasing. Although, and it may just be to my eye, something about the 'face' of the engine looks wrong. It appears to me that the Smokebox number plate is mounted marginally too high, as the bottom right-hand corner should just be touching the Higher Smokebox Door-hinge. A minor error, but I can't help but feel it spoils the 'face' a little. See: https://froxfield2012.smugmug.com/BRSouthernRegion/BR-Southern-Region-1950s/i-pnff6PG/0/L/30583%20Lyme%20Regis%201955-L.jpg Also, the tyres on the bogie wheels look rather thick... Regards, Matt I'm no sort of expert on these engines but as you say something doesn't look quite right about the 'face although the silver coloured handrail and smokebox door handles might not be helping - is the smokebox numberplate a bit oversize? Anyway all academic for me as apart from seeing for possible future reference what someone new to the market is managing, and what they are getting out of the Chinese factory they are using, I shan't be buying either this one or Hornby's version as there's plenty of Westernry in the offing to attract my plastic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebell Model Railway Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 I have to agree with some comments, the front smoke-box door is a tad high or too big, the lack of gap under the barrel is disappointing although it's down to the placement of the motor or ballast, the running plate still looks a tad bowed toward the front. Some bits are nice others not so, some parts of the chassis design are good similar to Bachmann with the radial axle, increasing the swing of the front bogie by moving the mount backwards... I think i will be swapping my order back to the other sadly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted November 18, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 18, 2015 (edited) The more I look at this, the worse it appears. Easy to be critical but its my money at the end of the day. The footplate does not seem flat and it looks to me as if the bunker droops slightly. Also, is it my wonky eye but do the buffers point up. It pains me to be so critical, by nature I am not but to my untrained eye it just does not look right. Rob. Edited November 18, 2015 by nhy581 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
amdaley Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 That silver handrail & smoke box dart is throwing everything off. If they were darkened it would look much better. Also that left buffer as we look at the photo doesn't help point upwards like it does. I'm sure that these things will be sorted before release. If not they will have an awful lot of stock left over. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mvrnut Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Look on the bright side of things,- - - the handrail knobs appear to be at the correct angle of dangle. I' ll leave it at that. Until we see an actual production model I think its a little too early to start fault finding. Cheers, Chris 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted November 19, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 19, 2015 Comparing the photos I think it's the number plate is too big or too high. The lack of gap under the boiler would make me want to see it in the flesh to see how it looks from normal viewing angles as you rarely get side on but that's the most noticeable issue for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebell Model Railway Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Just received an email from Oxford saying the model showing here is due for release next week...... from no news to plenty of news... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adams442T Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Just had an email from Oxford Rail to say that the late BR model of 30583 will be released next week! I hope the rush to market hasn't led to the seeming flaws that we have all commented on, but I suppose the 'real thing' will confirm or dismiss that. Fortunately I'm only interested in the LSWR version and I guess by the time that appears I will know if it's going to be Hornby or Oxford. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebell Model Railway Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Indeed I saw the LSWR one in the flesh in June sadly haven't seen much of it since, but after some thought last night looking at all the images past and present, I sadly cancelled my order but I hope they do well, Hopefully will get hands on with the BR on when they arrive as I do some photography for a model shop so I get a nice look at it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWRtrainman Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 I never knew we had a group of wise men who could undertake such a detailed review based on one PR photo! Out of curiosity, perhaps they could list the reference sources they are comparing with? As I suspect until we see some more objective reviews from the magazines all we're going to get is a list of perceived faults. Am I the only one thinking it would be nice on here to have a more balanced set of comments from some one who can back up what they say. It's always so negative! Personally I'm off to my local shop next week as they've just been told their stock arrives on Wednesday. Oh - website has updated again this morning to say it's now being released: http://www.oxfordrail.com/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
34theletterbetweenB&D Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 ...The footplate does not seem flat and it looks to me as if the bunker droops slightly. Also, is it my wonky eye but do the buffers point up... ...Also that left buffer as we look at the photo doesn't help point upwards like it does... Now I am wholly reliant on photographs as far as comparison to prototype is concerned, with all the concerns for possible optical distortion in images. But some pictures of 30853 in company with 30854 in the same picture show '3' to be bent in the footplate department where '4' is pretty much straight. There's one pic of '3' in early crest with gives the impression of a cocked up front buffer too. Tell you what is definitely wrong, that front bufferbeam is far too clean and tidy: pock marked with rust and the paint off around the drawgear on all three was typical, even though they are generally otherwise clean and tidy. These were old engines, and it showed. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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