Nelson Jackson Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Merry Christmas everyone This is what I got from Santa, the one thing I noticed was how small it is. Very detailed and beautiful. Thank you 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Turpin Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 Ken Hoole, in Rail Centres York confirms that, as suspected, these tanks were indeed frequent visitors to York. OK there Bachmann, looks like you've just sold another one! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted December 28, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 28, 2013 Got mine today, fine model. Not really Southern but hey how many 2-4-2s are out there? Glad I'm not the only Southernista who weakened! Very nice indeed, and it runs as well as it looks. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free At Last Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 (edited) Stripped down my 2nd loco that wasn't picking up from the front and rear trucks and adjusted the wipers. I am surprised there has not been anyone else on with this problem, or maybe they have not yet noticed. Pickup wipers are flat... ...and would be nowhere near the axle After adjustment Also removed the 6 pin socket as it had these gubbins underneath and will hardwire in a decoder... Edited December 28, 2013 by Free At Last 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 50746 with rivetted bunker side http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Neg-WITH-CR-50746-at-Horwich-Works-circa-1961-/201003395752?pt=UK_Collectables_Railwayana_RL&hash=item2eccbc6aa8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold farren Posted December 31, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 31, 2013 just ordered mine couldn't stop my self any longer now I wonder If I could put the long bunker white metal body I have on a second one. or would that be greedy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Nile Posted December 31, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 31, 2013 Rather than party like it's 2014, today I decided to dismantle the body of one of mine. Here is the resulting explosion of parts. The dome is a separate part, the chimney is not. The reversing lever has broken (cleanly) as it's glued to both the boiler and footplate. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brossard Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Thanks for these pictures. I have a kit to build and these will help with some of the more obscure details, especially the backhead. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 do the buffers come off? they would be useful to cast as they are the best ive seen, would be useful to use on other l&y loco kits. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stanley Melrose Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 I guess that the dismantling in those photos indicates that Bachmann may well do a version with a riveted bunker. Stan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Nile Posted December 31, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 31, 2013 The buffers seem quite firmly attached, but I managed to work one loose. This probably isn't what you wanted to see. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluebottle Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Thanks for sharing that, Neil; I trust you reassembled without mishap? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph R Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 "Stripped down my 2nd loco that wasn't picking up from the front and rear trucks and adjusted the wipers. I am surprised there has not been anyone else on with this problem, or maybe they have not yet noticed." "Free at last", there are no pickups on the radial trucks. What you have bent up are simply springs to keep the wheels on the track. I have stripped down a 2-4-2 to convert to P4 using the Bachmann chassis and Gibson wheels and so far it is looking a possibility although it is early days. It will be necessary to do some relieving of metal to clear the coupling rods as the Gibson wheels have a bigger crank throw but Colin at Gibson can supply 3mm axle wheels of the right diameter but not the right spoke pattern. Also if you go down this route get his pack of coupling rod bushes since only the Bachmann coupling rods will fit, exact scale ones won't - I already have a couple of other 2-4-2 chassis on the go so I thought I would use their coupling rods but they simply locked up. In the end I soldered some brass tubing into the Bachmann rods and used those. It runs very freely without the motor, not got as far as putting that back in yet until I am happy it will negotiate curves and pointwork without derailing. Bachmann's radial trucks are certainly ingenious and a much more realistic solution than those on the other 2 chassis I have bought for this loco over the years. If anyone is interested in P4'ing it let me know and I will update it when I progress further. Ralph 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free At Last Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 (edited) Ralph R, on 01 Jan 2014 - 15:17, said: "Stripped down my 2nd loco that wasn't picking up from the front and rear trucks and adjusted the wipers. I am surprised there has not been anyone else on with this problem, or maybe they have not yet noticed." "Free at last", there are no pickups on the radial trucks. What you have bent up are simply springs to keep the wheels on the track. I Ralph Strange then that the axles are live to one wheel and the "springs" link up to the pickups on the keeper plate, and after this adjustment the engine now picks up from six wheels. Edited January 1, 2014 by Free At Last Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold john dew Posted January 1, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 1, 2014 "Stripped down my 2nd loco that wasn't picking up from the front and rear trucks and adjusted the wipers. I am surprised there has not been anyone else on with this problem, or maybe they have not yet noticed." "Free at last", there are no pickups on the radial trucks. What you have bent up are simply springs to keep the wheels on the track. 282828]Ralph[/color] For greater certainty my "disagree" only related to this quote. My bogies do pick up but it can be intermittent and I suspect "Free at Last" is correct....the wipers require adjusting . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph R Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Strange then that the axles are live to one wheel and the "springs" link up to the pickups on the keeper plate, and after this adjustment the engine now picks up from six wheels. Sorry Free At Last, you are right. I didn't look at the radial wheels as not needing them I simply discarded them out without looking. These 'live' wheels can be a bit of a problem for us P4'ers but they certainly do improve pickup. Ralph Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PenrithBeacon Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 "Stripped down my 2nd loco that wasn't picking up from the front and rear trucks and adjusted the wipers. I am surprised there has not been anyone else on with this problem, or maybe they have not yet noticed." "Free at last", there are no pickups on the radial trucks. What you have bent up are simply springs to keep the wheels on the track. I have stripped down a 2-4-2 to convert to P4 using the Bachmann chassis and Gibson wheels and so far it is looking a possibility although it is early days. It will be necessary to do some relieving of metal to clear the coupling rods as the Gibson wheels have a bigger crank throw but Colin at Gibson can supply 3mm axle wheels of the right diameter but not the right spoke pattern. Also if you go down this route get his pack of coupling rod bushes since only the Bachmann coupling rods will fit, exact scale ones won't - I already have a couple of other 2-4-2 chassis on the go so I thought I would use their coupling rods but they simply locked up. In the end I soldered some brass tubing into the Bachmann rods and used those. It runs very freely without the motor, not got as far as putting that back in yet until I am happy it will negotiate curves and pointwork without derailing. Bachmann's radial trucks are certainly ingenious and a much more realistic solution than those on the other 2 chassis I have bought for this loco over the years. If anyone is interested in P4'ing it let me know and I will update it when I progress further. Ralph Please do! Regards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph R Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Having spent a lot of time trying to fit these Gibson wheels into the Bachmann chassis I have to say that making this body fit for P4 clearances is a big job. There is a LOT of metal to remove from inside the body to get clearances for these wheels but it IS possible. Having got the clearances sorted I now need to see if it will go around 3'6" curves without derailing and at the moment I have my doubts, these radial trucks are very bouncy and in 00 the flanges keep them on. I will check it out tomorrow on Slattocks and if it doesn't run smoothly then I will look at doing a chassis for it. The Gibson wheels I am using are the K3 wheels which Colin Seymour has done a 3mm axle for. Ralph Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Prism Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 The bounciness of the radials will always be a bit of a compromise: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph R Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 A quick update on the P4 version of the 2-4-2T. It managed to get round 3ft6ins radius curves fine but the trailing radial kept bouncing off so for me this is going to mean a new chassis. For anyone wanting to do a P4 conversion I would advise you to make something to hold the footplate assembly in prior to removing metal. The last photo in Nile's posting above gives you an idea of the size of the block of metal that comprises the sidetank and some of this needs to be relieved to get a side to side clearance for 18.83. Also the footplate needs relieving to clear the coupling rods although if they were closer to scale that would be less of a job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PenrithBeacon Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 A quick update on the P4 version of the 2-4-2T. It managed to get round 3ft6ins radius curves fine but the trailing radial kept bouncing off so for me this is going to mean a new chassis. For anyone wanting to do a P4 conversion I would advise you to make something to hold the footplate assembly in prior to removing metal. The last photo in Nile's posting above gives you an idea of the size of the block of metal that comprises the sidetank and some of this needs to be relieved to get a side to side clearance for 18.83. Also the footplate needs relieving to clear the coupling rods although if they were closer to scale that would be less of a job.That's a little discouraging, particularly the bit about having to remove metal from inside the tanks. Sounds as though a milling machine is required. Thanks for your posts so far and please continue! Regards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
billbedford Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 There's a P4 underframe kit here. It was originally done for the Craftsman kit and I'm waiting to hear if it needs modifying to fit the Bachmann. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rail-Online Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 There's a P4 underframe kit here. It was originally done for the Craftsman kit and I'm waiting to hear if it needs modifying to fit the Bachmann. Craftsman never did the L&Y 2-4-2T. It was either the etched George Norton/London Road kit or the whitemetal Cotswold Sutherland Casting/Nu-cast one. Tony Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Russ (mines a pint) Posted January 10, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 10, 2014 Someone asked earlier about Maryport & Carlisle? I have found a picture of one at Coniston - getting closer http://chasewaterstuff.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/coniston1.jpg?w=800 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed-farms Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 I recently gave into temptation and bought 50636. What a little beauty she is! Cracking model by Bachamnn and to to it all off Digitrains have done a sound chip for it and Tim Shackleton has weathered one for Hornby Magazine. Going to have to be a dirty one for Weeklyn Hill I feel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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