RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted July 3, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 3, 2022 6 hours ago, Accurascale Fran said: I believe the Hornby magazine video goes live this coming Friday showcasing our Maanor DCC sound and running. Perhaps we reserve judgement till then, but we’re very confident in our performance, both in running and haulage capacity. Cheers! Fran Excellent looking forward to it Fran. Thanks again 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 57xx Posted July 3, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 3, 2022 10 hours ago, Kaput said: Worth noting that Dapol's own catalogue makes zero mention of number of flywheels or motor type for the Manor. Just a generic "high torque motor" line. Lets try not to cruxify a manufacturer based on one retailers ramblings. Indeed, it was pointed out earlier in one the two threads about how inaccurate this comparison chart is (Turned brass safety valves anyone?). 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JST Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 Just ordered sound fitted Erlestoke Manor from Accurascale. Previously I had it on pre-order from Hattons (from whom I get a lot of stuff). The reasons for the change are twofold. Firstly, I thought I would see what getting stuff direct from Accurascale is like and secondly, as I live in the EU it works out about ten quid cheaper, part of which is free delivery in the EU. I wonder if Jacob Really-Smug will quote this as a Brexshit bonus! 🤣🤣 4 1 3 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted July 4, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 4, 2022 4 minutes ago, JST said: Just ordered sound fitted Erlestoke Manor from Accurascale. Previously I had it on pre-order from Hattons (from whom I get a lot of stuff). The reasons for the change are twofold. Firstly, I thought I would see what getting stuff direct from Accurascale is like and secondly, as I live in the EU it works out about ten quid cheaper, part of which is free delivery in the EU. I wonder if Jacob Really-Smug will quote this as a Brexshit bonus! 🤣🤣 LOL. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 30368 Posted July 4, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 4, 2022 1 hour ago, JST said: f Jacob Really-Smug will quote this as a Brexshit bonus! 🤣🤣 I suspect so....... Well done you! Kind regards, Richard B Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Accurascale Fran Posted July 4, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 4, 2022 Hi everyone, Just to point out (I missed out on the query re iron core v skew wound) over the weekend that our motor is skew wound. It is of very high quality and is used in precision dentistry equipment, among other applications. We are confident it will be up to our needs. Cheers! Fran 12 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacuum Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 3 hours ago, Accurascale Fran said: Hi everyone, Just to point out (I missed out on the query re iron core v skew wound) over the weekend that our motor is skew wound. It is of very high quality and is used in precision dentistry equipment, among other applications. We are confident it will be up to our needs. Cheers! Fran Making my dentist redundant exceeded even my expectations! Presumably the accessory packs will now contain dental drills, descalers etc. In which part of the loco. will these plug? Colin 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Neal Ball Posted July 4, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 4, 2022 6 hours ago, JST said: Just ordered sound fitted Erlestoke Manor from Accurascale. Previously I had it on pre-order from Hattons (from whom I get a lot of stuff). The reasons for the change are twofold. Firstly, I thought I would see what getting stuff direct from Accurascale is like and secondly, as I live in the EU it works out about ten quid cheaper, part of which is free delivery in the EU. I wonder if Jacob Really-Smug will quote this as a Brexshit bonus! 🤣🤣 I also ordered my Manor direct from Accurascale - for the same reasons, please of course to avoid Spanish customs by ordering in the EU. 3 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted July 4, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 4, 2022 5 hours ago, Accurascale Fran said: Hi everyone, Just to point out (I missed out on the query re iron core v skew wound) over the weekend that our motor is skew wound. It is of very high quality and is used in precision dentistry equipment, among other applications. We are confident it will be up to our needs. Cheers! Fran Hi Fran Does that mean it's coreless as well? It doesn't matter to me as long as it's a good runner, as I expect it will be - more compact, more room for ballast!👍🏻 IIRC Coreless motors have made big inroads into medical equipment and similar uses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Accurascale Fran Posted July 4, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 4, 2022 1 hour ago, melmerby said: Hi Fran Does that mean it's coreless as well? It doesn't matter to me as long as it's a good runner, as I expect it will be - more compact, more room for ballast!👍🏻 IIRC Coreless motors have made big inroads into medical equipment and similar uses. Hi Keith, It is not a coreless motor. Cheers! Fran 4 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 57xx Posted July 4, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 4, 2022 2 hours ago, Accurascale Fran said: It is not a coreless motor. Phew, big relief! 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MikeParkin65 Posted July 4, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 4, 2022 On 02/07/2022 at 18:16, Accurascale Fran said: Hi @gwrrob, Twin flywheels? I believe the Hornby magazine video goes live this coming Friday showcasing our Maanor DCC sound and running. Perhaps we reserve judgement till then, but we’re very confident in our performance, both in running and haulage capacity. Cheers! Fran @Accurascale Fran - do you happen to know if the video goes live for ‘the masses’ or is it, like the first Deltic video, for Hornby subscribers only? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted July 4, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 4, 2022 54 minutes ago, 57xx said: Phew, big relief! Why? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Accurascale Fran Posted July 5, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 5, 2022 11 hours ago, MikeParkin65 said: @Accurascale Fran - do you happen to know if the video goes live for ‘the masses’ or is it, like the first Deltic video, for Hornby subscribers only? Hi Mike, My understanding it's for all the great unwashed like myself! Cheers! Fran 2 2 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 57xx Posted July 5, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 5, 2022 17 hours ago, melmerby said: Why? Because it leave my options open for which Manor to purchase, knowing I won't get one that runs like a bag of nails. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MikeParkin65 Posted July 6, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 6, 2022 20 hours ago, 57xx said: Because it leave my options open for which Manor to purchase, knowing I won't get one that runs like a bag of nails. Seems to depend on your method of control (DC or DCC) and if DC the age and quality of your controller. I have a Hornby trainset DC controller that I use purely to establish if a model runs before DCC fitting. Up until the latest Bachmann J72 (coreless apparently) this was fine. The J72 ran like a bag of nails as you describe but is silky smooth as described by @thetrains once DCC fitted. It may be its your control equipment that prevents you getting the best out of the latest models. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted July 6, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, MikeParkin65 said: Seems to depend on your method of control (DC or DCC) and if DC the age and quality of your controller. I have a Hornby trainset DC controller that I use purely to establish if a model runs before DCC fitting. Up until the latest Bachmann J72 (coreless apparently) this was fine. The J72 ran like a bag of nails as you describe but is silky smooth as described by @thetrains once DCC fitted. It may be its your control equipment that prevents you getting the best out of the latest models. And that once again is an essential truth that seems to evade quite a number of forum members. It seems we are ( or at least some of us are ) prepared to splash the cash on expensive models which they will run on frankly obsolete control equipment. Then along comes the age of the coreless motor….or does it ? Accurascale,very definitely the leader of the pack atm are opting for a conventional can motor to install in their locos. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted July 6, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 6, 2022 20 hours ago, 57xx said: Because it leave my options open for which Manor to purchase, knowing I won't get one that runs like a bag of nails. But you don't know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted July 6, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 6, 2022 These days you should not be using any form of controller (DC or DCC) that uses a low frequency BEMF system Even iron cored motors can have their commutators damaged by poorly controlled low frequency BEMF. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted July 6, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 6, 2022 13 minutes ago, thetrains said: Should have said I am on DC, GM model 100 M, and panel mount model U with simulation, 3yrs and 1years old respectively. I should perhaps have made it clear that this is a general point and certainly not specific to you.It’s an historic issue Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black 5 Bear Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 I can thoroughly recommend the Morley Vector if anyone is looking for a replacement for their current controller/power unit. 1 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post Accurascale Fran Posted July 7, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted July 7, 2022 Hi everyone, One notable absentee from our decorated sample line up was 7820 'Dinmore Manor'. Unfortunately this was sent after the first lot of decorated samples and got somewhat lost along the way, but it has finally shown up. Once again, please note that this is a pre-production decorated sample, so usual caveats apply! Constructive feedback welcome as always, and look out for the running video with Hornby magazine tomorrow along with a further Manor update next week! Cheers! Fran 37 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hal Nail Posted July 7, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 7, 2022 23 hours ago, melmerby said: But you don't know. Surely you don't need to know stuff to state it authoritatively. Have I totally misunderstood how forums work? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pre Grouping fan Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 Really looks excellent. That's really tempted me to preorder 7820 now even as a southern modeller! Nly comments I would have is I spotted the lining doesn't have the white/cream thin line. Is this because it's a first deco sample? Also the firebox prism looks quite noticeable in the photo though happy to wait till tomorrow's video to see what it looks like in a layout environment. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted July 7, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 7, 2022 2 hours ago, Accurascale Fran said: Hi everyone, One notable absentee from our decorated sample line up was 7820 'Dinmore Manor'. Unfortunately this was sent after the first lot of decorated samples and got somewhat lost along the way, but it has finally shown up. Once again, please note that this is a pre-production decorated sample, so usual caveats apply! Constructive feedback welcome as always, and look out for the running video with Hornby magazine tomorrow along with a further Manor update next week! Cheers! Fran One thing Fran - it still has that considerably oversize reverser handle. Compare with the Sdn drawing below. (although it might well have been corrected by now as it was noted as oversize when teh EPs were first posted). 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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