SECR Maunsell D1 Class Locomotive

[Wickham Green too]

I, too, will be back-dating a 'Sunshine' one.

 

Looks like they've cottoned on to the tender spring dampers that should have been present on most of the 'D' class variants.

 

[Mr chapman]

I heard people saying about the lining rubbing off easily on the D and sealing it in. Is this something that has been addressed this time with the D1? 

[mattingleycustom]

1 hour ago, prtrainman said:

I'll second Graham's comment & add that I am happy too. BR late crest version duly ordered. 

 

All that's needed now is a U and L or L1 & 2022 will be even better!

 

Couldn't agree more, where is that U Class?, there were 50 of the things after all.

 

Glenn

[BMacdermott]

5 minutes ago, mattingleycustom said:

 

Couldn't agree more, where is that U Class?, there were 50 of the things after all.

 

Hello Glenn

 

Not wishing to go 'off topic' but just for info...

 

The U Class was consistently in the Top 50 of what was The Annual 00 Wishlist Poll and became consistently the most-wanted SR loco from 2015.

 

Brian (on behalf of The 00 Poll Team)

[Wickham Green too]

7 minutes ago, mattingleycustom said:

.... where is that U Class?, there were 50 of the things after all. 

Not quite that simple, unfortunately - there were lots of different variants even as built/rebuilt ( not to mention new frames etc. later ) so  fifty variants, perhaps : how would you choose to represent a 'typical' U-Boat ?

[Big James]

Fantastic news. I’ll pre-order myself the 3 BR versions I think. They look amazing. 
It feels like rails are mining the SECR 4-4-0’s wouldn’t surprise me if we got an E or L class soon. 
 

big james

[truffy]

4 hours ago, The Black Hat said:

I'm glad your happy. 

You're glad his happy what?

[truffy]

This looks far more imposing than the D Class!

 

According to SEMG, 1749 was rebuilt 1921 by Beyer Peacock, and 1741 was rebuilt in 1927 at Ashford.

 

Decisions, decisions. SWMBO would kill me for either one of them, so is it a case of in for a penny, in for a pound?

Edited February 22, 2022 by truffy

[truffy]

7 hours ago, Oliver Rails said:

£199.95 DCC Ready
£324.95 DCC Sound Fitted

All versions are available to pre-order now with just a £30 deposit.

 

Just one, not-so-minor point, Oliver. I think that the pricing on RoS is misleading.

I take this to mean £166 of which a £30 deposit is required, not £166 PLUS an ADDITIONAL £30 deposit.

 

Perhaps it's just me, but it could be more transparent.

[Paul.Uni]

It is showing £199.95 for me.

 

£166.63 is £199.95 less the VAT.

Edited February 22, 2022 by Paul.Uni

[Michael Hodgson]

Did they ever wander off the Southern ?

[Wickham Green too]

3 hours ago, Wickham Green too said:

I, too, will be back-dating a 'Sunshine' one.

POSSIBLY back-dating to 'SOUTHERN' on the tender but retaining the B.R. number 31487 which this loco gained in June 1948 ......... unfortunately this was not one of the four D1s that carried the full 'BRITISH RAILWAYS' title as offered by Rails. ( Nos. s1735, 31246, 31470 & 31473 - according to Southern Style.) 

[Graham_Muz]

13 minutes ago, Wickham Green too said:

POSSIBLY back-dating to 'SOUTHERN' on the tender but retaining the B.R. number 31487 which this loco gained in June 1948 ......... unfortunately this was not one of the four D1s that carried the full 'BRITISH RAILWAYS' title as offered by Rails. ( Nos. s1735, 31246, 31470 & 31473 - according to Southern Style.) 

It's a shame no one at Dapol or RoS have looked at Southern Style, as if they did it might encourage them to get the SR lettering correct in both style and height. 
It's not worth just changing the tender sunshine lettering and leaving the number in place as neither are correct so therefore best to replace both and choose whichever number you want. 

[phil gollin]

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I realise that this is the "Rails" thread, but does anyone know if Locomotion will be producing a special edition ?

 

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[Graham_Muz]

6 minutes ago, phil gollin said:

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I realise that this is the "Rails" thread, but does anyone know if Locomotion will be producing a special edition ?

 

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Where have they been hiding a D1 in the National Collection?  

[Merchant Navy]

What a fantastic choice of locomotive! Midland-esque but a Southern loco. If the quality is high, this will be great.

SECR fans are well served by the latest announcements (see Rapido's SECR ballast wagons and 10t vans).

[Wickham Green too]

1 hour ago, Michael Hodgson said:

Did they ever wander off the Southern ?

Effectively no ..... though there might have been one or two railtours into Foreign Parts ( a quick scan through Bradley doesn't find any ).

[Merchant Navy]

1 hour ago, Graham_Muz said:

Where have they been hiding a D1 in the National Collection?  

 

I too automatically thought that the loco would be part of the National Collection when I was awaiting the announcement video! Rails has set a bit of a trend in recent times in this respect.

[Steamport Southport]

2 hours ago, Michael Hodgson said:

Did they ever wander off the Southern ?

 

First ten were rebuilt in Manchester so you could come up with an excuse.

 

But only if you model 1921....  

 

 

 

Jason

[Wickham Green too]

..... and you'd need two locos - without motors or tenders - coupled cab to cab ................ surely an eye-catching model ! 

[chris45lsw]

Rails/Dapol made a an obvious error on their BR lined black D where the early emblem on the right faced backwards.  They don't seem to have learnt as on the livery samples they have repeated the error on 31741!  The early 'lion over wheel' ALWAYS FACED FORWARD!  Hopefully this time there is time to correct the fault.

 

Also from Spring 1952 the cab lining on BR lined black locos was changed.  Previously it was 'continuous' as on 31741 but from 1952 it was 'cut' where the footplating intruded into the cab side.  So 'continuous' lining is incorrect for the late crest engine, 31246.

 

Chris KT 

[truffy]

 

9 hours ago, Merchant Navy said:

I too automatically thought that the loco would be part of the National Collection when I was awaiting the announcement video! Rails has set a bit of a trend in recent times in this respect.

 

There's a compact and bijou cluette in the announcement:

 

20 hours ago, Oliver Rails said:

Withdrawn in November 1961, no preserved examples exist.

 

[truffy]

13 hours ago, Paul.Uni said:

It is showing £199.95 for me.

 

£166.63 is £199.95 less the VAT.

Ummm, nope:

 

And, although I'm in Switzerland, so tax would be deducted at RoS's end, I'm not logged into my account. Spooky!

Edited February 23, 2022 by truffy
Clarification

[Graham_Muz]

7 hours ago, chris45lsw said:

Rails/Dapol made a an obvious error on their BR lined black D where the early emblem on the right faced backwards.  They don't seem to have learnt as on the livery samples they have repeated the error on 31741!  The early 'lion over wheel' ALWAYS FACED FORWARD!  Hopefully this time there is time to correct the fault.

 

Also from Spring 1952 the cab lining on BR lined black locos was changed.  Previously it was 'continuous' as on 31741 but from 1952 it was 'cut' where the footplating intruded into the cab side.  So 'continuous' lining is incorrect for the late crest engine, 31246.

 

Chris KT 

It would appear that the original livery specification / artwork has been blindly copied across from the D Class and all the errors highlighted / ignored at the various stages in the D class development and are now duplicated on the D1 class. There are frustratingly errors affecting every livery option! 

Edited February 23, 2022 by Graham_Muz
typo corrected

[Oldddudders]

3 minutes ago, Graham_Muz said:

There are frustratingly errors affecting every livery option! 

Baffling. Getting the shape and proportions right is a task I would see as difficult. Getting livery details right is simply about basic research, which I see as far more straightforward.