mpb56125 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Wonder why they numbered 85005 as such when they numbered the 87s to be clearly traceable, a quick google reveals that 85005 is 86231! Jim Class 86 number series already used in Bulgaria for the former Danish Electrics. https://mark5812.smugmug.com/Trains-2017/Bulgaria-September-October-2017/i-XdF5pJw/A Mark 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium drjcontroller Posted November 1, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 1, 2017 Under a veritable forest of overhead wires, an unidentified Class 87 passes through Bletchley with a southbound freightliner service on 27th May 1981. 19 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Border Reiver Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 I was taking photos north of Carlisle station at Caldew Junction on 20 August 1992 when a down express approached headed by Class 87 87012. As it drew near there was this almighty bang and I noticed two 'waterfalls' of liquid starting to pour out of the loco. It started to slow down and went about a quarter of a mile before stopping near Etterby Bridge at Kingmoor.Anyone and idea what caused this?The truncated track at the bottom all that is left of the freight avoiding line. 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted November 3, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 3, 2017 I was taking photos north of Carlisle station at Caldew Junction on 20 August 1992 when a down express approached headed by Class 87 87012. As it drew near there was this almighty bang and I noticed two 'waterfalls' of liquid starting to pour out of the loco. It started to slow down and went about a quarter of a mile before stopping near Etterby Bridge at Kingmoor. Anyone and idea what caused this? The truncated track at the bottom all that is left of the freight avoiding line. CA059_14_20171103_0017_1200.jpg CA059_14_20171103_0017_1200_crop.jpg Driver got took short and isn’t going to use the loo when standing in the station ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
letterspider Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 (edited) I was taking photos north of Carlisle station at Caldew Junction on 20 August 1992 when a down express approached headed by Class 87 87012. As it drew near there was this almighty bang and I noticed two 'waterfalls' of liquid starting to pour out of the loco. It started to slow down and went about a quarter of a mile before stopping near Etterby Bridge at Kingmoor. Anyone and idea what caused this? The truncated track at the bottom all that is left of the freight avoiding line. CA059_14_20171103_0017_1200.jpg CA059_14_20171103_0017_1200_crop.jpg My guess is a catastrophic transformer winding failure, rupturing the casing and causing a leakage of oil coolant....but I do like the explanation given above Edited November 3, 2017 by letterspider Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trev52A Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 87034 William Shakespeare northbound at Carlisle on 19th April 1987 Trevor 17 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trev52A Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 87020 North Briton waits to head south from Carlisle on an unrecorded date in 1986. Anyone know if this loco's livery changed at some point in 1986 to tie the date down a bit better, please? Cheers Trevor 17 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trev52A Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 (edited) Another one taken some time in 1986 at Carlisle: 47526 Northumbria departs south from Carlisle passing 86428 Aldaniti in the centre road. If I remember correctly the 47 had taken over from the 86 which had brought the train in from the north and this was a loco changeover. It was only when sorting out this scan that I realised the 47 has a missing light on the headcode replacement panel! Trevor Edited November 3, 2017 by Trev52A 16 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jbqfc Posted November 3, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 3, 2017 with trains been diverted by the settle and Carlisle route a few electrics at Carlisle 86004 86404 86604 86002 86402 86602 90139 90150 86603 86606 90018 CARLISLE by john brace, on Flickr 10 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted November 3, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 3, 2017 Carlisle is one of them stations that just never seems to change. If a large logo blue 47, or 87 on blue grey stock rolled in now, and you took a picture of it.. you’d be hard pressed to guess when it was taken. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
royaloak Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 Another one taken some time in 1986 at Carlisle: (0701aS) (must be 86428 Aldaniti) + 47526 Northumbria at Carlisle 1986 (T Ermel).jpg 47526 Northumbria departs south from Carlisle passing 86428 Aldaniti in the centre road. If I remember correctly the 47 had taken over from the 86 which had brought the train in from the north and this was a loco changeover. It was only when sorting out this scan that I realised the 47 has a missing light on the headcode replacement panel! Trevor Is the marker light on the original, scanners can occasionally scan what they think is there rather than what is actually there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trev52A Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 Is the marker light on the original, scanners can occasionally scan what they think is there rather than what is actually there. Good point. I'll have to dig out the original colour slide (Filing system? What filing system?!) and report back. Could be a long wait... Trevor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trev52A Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 More livery contrasts at Carlisle... 85013 and 86403 stabled at Carlisle on 19th April 1987 Trevor 16 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertcwp Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 A class 302 like no other: 302_244_Barking_11-4-80 by Robert Carroll, on Flickr 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PM47079 Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 (edited) Lovely picture but surely a 305 or 308 Edited November 18, 2017 by PM47079 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombatofludham Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 (edited) There was a GE line unit that aquired a former Bury Line driving trailer back in the 1970s presumably after a prang, but for the life of me and without trying to retrieve my Ian Allan ABCs from the era I can't remember what class it was. That's clearly the ex class 504 trailer though. [edit] it was actually a Tilbury line unit and 244 was in fact a Class 302, there are photos over on Flickr of the other end! Edited November 18, 2017 by wombatofludham Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted November 18, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 18, 2017 (edited) Lovely picture but surely a 305 or 308 As Mark has stated 244 had a damaged driving trailer second, it was replaced by a surplus driving trailer from a Bury 504 unit. Edited November 18, 2017 by Clive Mortimore Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombatofludham Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 According to the Flickrati 244 was involved in a level crossing collision in Tilbury which is how it came to acquire the former Bury line trailer. It survived long enough to recieve blue and grey livery. The old Ian Allan ABCs were great for identifying oddball formations. There were a number of LMR AM10 units that had non-standard formations, one acquired a demoted driving trailer composite to replace an accident damaged DTS (you could tell them apart by the number of side doors to the saloon) and another gained a rebuilt trailer second for a DTS, again identifiable by the different bodyside door configuration, whilst one of the Clacton 309s was identified as having a former Swindon Class 123 buffet in place of the griddle if I recall correctly. Funny how these things stick in your mind more than 40 years on... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertcwp Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 Lovely picture but surely a 305 or 308 Er, no. 305s and 308s had ends like this: 305_404_m by Robert Carroll, on Flickr According to the Flickrati 244 was involved in a level crossing collision in Tilbury which is how it came to acquire the former Bury line trailer. It survived long enough to recieve blue and grey livery. The old Ian Allan ABCs were great for identifying oddball formations. There were a number of LMR AM10 units that had non-standard formations, one acquired a demoted driving trailer composite to replace an accident damaged DTS (you could tell them apart by the number of side doors to the saloon) and another gained a rebuilt trailer second for a DTS, again identifiable by the different bodyside door configuration, whilst one of the Clacton 309s was identified as having a former Swindon Class 123 buffet in place of the griddle if I recall correctly. Funny how these things stick in your mind more than 40 years on... This is the one with the rebuilt trailer second: 310094_undated by Robert Carroll, on Flickr 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombatofludham Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 Thanks for posting the picture Robert. It seems odd that when going to all the trouble of grafting a cab onto the end of a TS they didn't alter the first seating bay to the more normal non-door style, but at least it gave us a bit of variety. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomag Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 Thanks for posting the picture Robert. It seems odd that when going to all the trouble of grafting a cab onto the end of a TS they didn't alter the first seating bay to the more normal non-door style, but at least it gave us a bit of variety. Being of integral construction there were some sections where it was not possible to alter the bodywork while maintaining shear strength of the body. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
60091 Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 A selection from the WCML in 1995. 86244 nr Hardendale 86214 nr Shap Village 86226 Greenholme 87012 Greenholme 87019 Scout Green 90126 Scout Green 16 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caradoc Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 77164 was the ex-Bury DTSO which replaced DTSOL 75292 in LT&S set 244. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertcwp Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 Being of integral construction there were some sections where it was not possible to alter the bodywork while maintaining shear strength of the body. Comparison of diagrams: 473_AM10_TS by Robert Carroll, on Flickr 482_rebuild by Robert Carroll, on Flickr 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidMcKenzie Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 Not as high in quality as some of the great photos on here, I was only a very young boy when I took these. But a selection all taken from Tring. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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