Don't say that, for crying out loud! They'll put the price up now!
I think the £60 was one of Hatton's hopelessly optimistic pre-order predictions - same price as ONE Birdcage coach? Give over!
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Posted 26 November 2017 - 06:25
Posted 26 November 2017 - 09:18
My guess is just shy of £200 for RRP .......
Assuming it is powered, assuming it is digitally controlled, then I reckon that by the time it is released on the market closer to £275.00, If it is available with sound then this may be higher!
I could of course be incorrect but looking at some other SRSPs around for other new items currently the Hobby is going to become more expensive.
Posted 26 November 2017 - 10:41
The steam crane price will depend on the "bells and whistles." IF it has DCC controlled lifting and slewing then it will be £250-ish. I see no reason for this and think it will be "dumb" with any "action features" being handled by sockets where you need a "key" to pull the ropes. For that I reckon £160-ish.
The problem I see for Bachmann is how many liveries ? BR Black and Red are obvious, but how many regional variations ? I would buy a BR Black in Southern Region markings, but not any other region for the prices i've guessed at.
Still it's a beautiful model. Good luck to them.
Edited by phil gollin, 26 November 2017 - 10:43 .
Posted 26 November 2017 - 10:45
Anyone want a pot-shot at the eventual RRP for the steam crane? I'll have a go - £175.
But only with the initial 15% discount. I reckon they'll target bringing it in at just under £200 - and it will sell like hot cakes with most version 'sold out' at the factory before they're even put on the boat in China. If there is any sort of power arrangement within it then it could well be more and if it has some really clever dcc controlled functions then Steve Lewis' estimate will probably be nearer than anybody else's (including mine) - but some versions will still go off the shelves like hotcakes.
Incidentally judging by the pics posted here they are also making a good job of the GWR runner wagon. Incidentally looking at Phil's comments and the posted photos the intention appears to be to produce reasonably accurate representations of the different owners' versions so the next question is about livery variations based on that starting point.
Edited by The Stationmaster, 26 November 2017 - 10:49 .
Posted 26 November 2017 - 10:58
If Hattons are releasing the dynamometer car at £125, i would think the Crane must be more. It certainly looks to have a multitude of small parts to assemble.
Er...Rails.My personal picks of the new release line up were the two Halls which rang the authentic bell,the H2....divine... and the teak Thompsons. All in all,although nothing immediately exciting was on hand,there was a touch of class about it..in short,quality.
Edited by Ian Hargrave, 26 November 2017 - 11:09 .
Posted 26 November 2017 - 11:32
Posted 26 November 2017 - 12:18
I've had a look through the thread, but I can't see any mention of the planned retool for the GWR Mogul. Has this been made official yet?
I am 95% certain that Bachmann have not, at any stage, announced a retool for their GWR Mogul, much as we disciples of Swindon would welcome one with open arms!
In terms of the steam crane, I mentally broke down the constituent parts as follows- in the theoretical eventuality whereby they were available for purchase separately:
The two larger match trucks - @ £35 each. Hattons warflats were £33 and these have more detail and will no doubt emerge two year later, with the inflationary effect that that brings!
The small match truck @ £20. Going rate for a new-tool small four wheel truck these days
The crane itself @ £85. More difficult to find a direct comparator out there in the market, but arguably this has more separately added detail than some locos, and the jib and cab will both be expected to be movable. The only reason I haven't pegged this to the price of a new tool tank engine at £100 - £130 is that there obviously won't be a motor and drive train fitted.
Think that's reasonable to assume.
Edited by County of Yorkshire, 26 November 2017 - 12:20 .
Posted 26 November 2017 - 12:39
I must admit I’m finding this discussion about the crane’s eventual price a little disturbing. I wasn’t expecting the original £60, but over £200? That would make me re-think my existing order, and as disposable incomes go I think I’m probably in the luckier half. No disputing the quality, but I’m not sure Bachmann can afford to set the price that high.
This is why I don't pre-order until there is a RRP avilable from the manufacturer, which for the crane there still isn't one, and completely ignore the Hattons made up price.
Edited by Paul.Uni, 26 November 2017 - 12:39 .