RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted April 21, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 21, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Steamport Southport said: Just can't get the staff anymore... Jason But they are wearing eye protection glasses - good safety practice. Edited April 21, 2020 by Darius43 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium spamcan61 Posted April 21, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 21, 2020 3 hours ago, RAF96 said: The picture is of a hand modified prototype for the R7274 decoder. How the retailers have gotten hold of it I do not know, but I can assure you this is definitely not the production standard. As I pointed out earlier it is/was the image used on the Hornby website so maybe the used it from there. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted April 21, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 21, 2020 The girl in the green top even has an old fashioned IDE Hard drive to repair with that iron. I think the bloke has given up on his. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium spamcan61 Posted April 21, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 21, 2020 Distinct lack of visible ESD precautions all round while we're at it. You can see the disappointment in the guy's eyes, he was expecting to be modelling swimwear, surrounded by supermodels ;-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
atom3624 Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 Is it me? Should they be holding those soldering irons like that - or do they have invisible asbestos gloves on? Al. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
truffy Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 28 minutes ago, melmerby said: I think the bloke has given up on his. He can't figure out why it's not working. Nor realise that it's just as well that it isn't! 7 minutes ago, atom3624 said: Is it me? Should they be holding those soldering irons like that - or do they have invisible asbestos gloves on? No, it's not just you. That's the whole reason that the photos were posted in the first place, and whay there's been so much merriment since. 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willie Whizz Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 For God’s sake, please don’t anybody show this to Tony Wright ... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 13 minutes ago, Willie Whizz said: For God’s sake, please don’t anybody show this to Tony Wright ... I believe the photographs have been mentioned in Tony's thread before. To be honest they were the first I found on Google. Loads more examples out there. I think the girl in the purple top is the best because at first glance she looks like she knows what she's doing. Apart from how to hold an iron that is. Jason 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 (edited) The thing is, all the soldered components on THAT side of the motherboard will be SMDs, anything appropriate for irons with bits as big as those are wired through the board and soldered on the other side. It'd smell like burned crispy bacon in that lab! The motto: Never trust the artistic director... Edited April 21, 2020 by Hroth 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 96701 Posted April 21, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 21, 2020 2 hours ago, Hroth said: The thing is, all the soldered components on THAT side of the motherboard will be SMDs, anything appropriate for irons with bits as big as those are wired through the board and soldered on the other side. It'd smell like burned crispy bacon in that lab! The motto: Never trust the artistic director... Never mind the shutterstock rubbish, even the better version of the Hornby 4 pin decoder looks awful. Definitely one to be avoided, particularly as I've never encountered a 4 pin decoder before. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Huw Griffiths Posted April 22, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 22, 2020 5 hours ago, Steamport Southport said: I believe the photographs have been mentioned in Tony's thread before. To be honest they were the first I found on Google. Loads more examples out there. I think the girl in the purple top is the best because at first glance she looks like she knows what she's doing. Apart from how to hold an iron that is. Some people might suggest that she learnt from an expert - aka "Mr. Hot Fingers" - as allegedly seen in one edition of a certain, well known, mainstream model railway magazine. Of course, I couldn't possibly comment (except, of course, to point out that no malice is intended in this comment). It goes without saying that, if anyone should take offence, I'd wish to put on record my apologies for this - and invite any site moderators to delete this post if they do choose ... . Huw. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 It has been observed that the overwhelming majority of railway modellers are old men. It must be the case because they notice how the lady in green is holding her soldering iron. My last flickering flames caused a considerable delay is spotting what was wrong in the picture. 1 7 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffnut Thorston Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 The Hornby 0-6-0 locos, Railroad type, have used 4-pin decoders for some time now... Not really a new technology... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted April 22, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 22, 2020 19 hours ago, MikeParkin65 said: You'd think even for a prototype they'd notice crossing two bare wires surely?! No doubt an image the marketing dept picked for the website - perhaps because they were fed up with being criticised for posting computer generated images? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben B Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 Those people soldering make me shudder... when I was in year 7 a classmate picked up a soldering iron whilst clearing up at the end of a lesson... by grabbing it by the bare metal. She thought it was switched off (and they'd all supposedly been off for 30 mins) but some dozy sod hadnt turned his off at the wall. Once smelt, the distintive aroma of flesh laminated to hot metal never leaves you. She was too in shock to even scream, which is a horribly lingering detail. Still, gave me a nice horror story to scare The Youths with when I was a DT techie 20 years later No year 7's dicked around with the irons after that... 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oliver Rails Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 Hi, The chips have arrived, please see image below These can be ordered here 3 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
truffy Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Oliver Rails said: Hi, The chips have arrived, please see image below These can be ordered here Proper job! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted April 23, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 23, 2020 15 hours ago, truffy said: Proper job! Are they just four function decoders with less wires? Pads marked J1 to J9 and what looks like four current limiting resistors. Roy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWR-fan Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 Can happen to the best of them. A manufacturer image. Note the angle of the return crank on the centre driving wheel. Obviously the crank mount bolt is loose allowing the crank to drop down. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnd Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 18 hours ago, Oliver Rails said: Hi, The chips have arrived, please see image below These can be ordered here Now whats due from Hornby that takes these decoders ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium boxbrownie Posted April 23, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 23, 2020 22 hours ago, The Stationmaster said: No doubt an image the marketing dept picked for the website - perhaps because they were fed up with being criticised for posting computer generated images? Then they need to get a job they can do...... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffnut Thorston Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 On 22/04/2020 at 09:45, Sarahagain said: The Hornby 0-6-0 locos, Railroad type, have used 4-pin decoders for some time now... Not really a new technology... 3 hours ago, johnd said: Now whats due from Hornby that takes these decoders ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted April 24, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 24, 2020 23 hours ago, johnd said: Now whats due from Hornby that takes these decoders ? All the Pecketts that have arrived recently but for which no decoder was available. Roy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIK Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 On 23/04/2020 at 06:50, GWR-fan said: Can happen to the best of them. A manufacturer image. Note the angle of the return crank on the centre driving wheel. Obviously the crank mount bolt is loose allowing the crank to drop down. Hi, Photography is sometimes not done by modellers. A mate was having his layout photographed for the Railway Modeller and the photographer wanted to take the photos with minimal depth of field. My mate pointed out this was not how things were done and it would make things look - well, toy like. I can't remember if stern Steve was phoned but sanity was restored. We need another Brian Monahan. Take care. Nick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Phil Parker Posted April 24, 2020 Administrators Share Posted April 24, 2020 11 minutes ago, NIK said: Photography is sometimes not done by modellers. A mate was having his layout photographed for the Railway Modeller and the photographer wanted to take the photos with minimal depth of field. My mate pointed out this was not how things were done and it would make things look - well, toy like. I can't remember if stern Steve was phoned but sanity was restored. We need another Brian Monahan. Feature layout photography is very rarely carried out by modellers - when you see some of the horrors submitted to magazines you'd understand why (missed the loco, out of focus - they can fix that can't they?) You don't say who the photographer for RM was, but I know the normal ones and they wouldn't need to be shown "how things were done" so I wonder who it was?. I doubt anyone has shot with minimal depth of field for many years. Most of us focus stack to avoid it. I'm sure even Brian Monahan would do this nowadays. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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