SRman Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 I've just got a secondhand Peckett from a good friend, however the whistle has broken off. Are there any suitable replacements and alternative mounting points. The plastic whistles are very vulnerable; I lost two out of three! For one, I put a bit of brass wire in the Dremel chuck and used a needle file against it as it spun, then trimmed to a suitable length to make a reasonable facsimile of a whistle - it probably wouldn't pass close inspection, but it works for me. For the second one, I happened to have a Markits' whistle for a type I can't remember off hand, but they do offer quite a few different types. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted October 18, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 18, 2017 I've just got a secondhand Peckett from a good friend, however the whistle has broken off. Are there any suitable replacements and alternative mounting points. I have just discovered a number of brass whistles in my stash. Some are spoken for and will be distributed this weekend. There should be a few left over, PM me Sunday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
w124bob Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 I have just discovered a number of brass whistles in my stash. Some are spoken for and will be distributed this weekend. There should be a few left over, PM me Sunday. Will do, cheers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffnut Thorston Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 I've just got a secondhand Peckett from a good friend, however the whistle has broken off. Are there any suitable replacements and alternative mounting points. There are the Brass whistles formerly used on Tri-ang / Hornby Railways locos... There is a long thin one, used on the LNER B12, etc. There is a more "bell" type whistle, used on the Pannier Tank locos, etc. There was also the "chime" whistle, used on the Transcontinental Pacific (AKA "Hiawatha") along with the Brass Bell! All are available....some by purhasing a battered loco or body, some parts also come up on Auctin and Sales Sites as well..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted October 19, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 19, 2017 There are the Brass whistles formerly used on Tri-ang / Hornby Railways locos... There is a long thin one, used on the LNER B12, etc. There is a more "bell" type whistle, used on the Pannier Tank locos, etc. There was also the "chime" whistle, used on the Transcontinental Pacific (AKA "Hiawatha") along with the Brass Bell! All are available....some by purhasing a battered loco or body, some parts also come up on Auctin and Sales Sites as well..... The ones I have spare might be old Hornby Dublo items. Many years ago my club acquired the stock of someone who specialised in repairing Hornby Dublo 3-rail. This was disposed of to a specialist dealer but afterwards the whistles were found in the bottom of one of the boxes that the parts had come in (in their own plastic bag). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffnut Thorston Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 I have found these Brass Whistles, from the HD "Castle", which should have two whistles.... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hornby-Dublo-2-3-Rail-Castle-Class-Original-Brass-Whistles-/391884394277 Sometimes, the brass safety valves can get reffered to as "whistles"..... Tri-ang and Hornby have used three main types of Safety Valves, since the plastic moulded ones were done away with in the later 1950s... The most common has "rims" around the body, as was used on most locos (2 of them..) until 1962... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TRIANG-Hornby-2-BRASS-WHISTLE-VALVES-OO-GAUGE-PRINCESS-4-6-2-ECT-TRAIN-SPARES-/322808936577?_trksid=p2349526.m2548.l4275 In 1962, a new design was issued, replacing the previous design. This is still in use today, and has a "smooth" body, with a flanged top... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TRIANG-Hornby-2-BRASS-WHISTLES-FIT-DICAST-TRAIN-FOR-DETAILING-ECT-SPARES-/322827054452?hash=item4b29fded74:g:SfgAAOSwjDZYl1cu In 1960, another new design appeared, a flatish disk design, used at first on the R.259 "Britannia" models. Later also used on the 9F and "Evening Star" models, the Duchess, etc. http://www.ebay.ie/itm/S2061-X-2-Hornby-TRIANG-PAIR-BRASS-SAFETY-VALVE-SINGLE-RING-E9B/151892166323 Hornby Dublo made brass Safety Valves. Similar in design to the 1962- on design. Here reffered to as "Whistles".... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-Hornby-DUBLO-BRASS-WHISTLES-suits-SOUTHERN-BR-R1-TANK-2207-2206-maybe-others-/372091293658 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post PaulRhB Posted November 5, 2017 RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted November 5, 2017 (edited) George Jennings on Parkstone Goods at the Poole Show, with modified curved cab back. And my No.11 Tyneham on Lulworth Castle. Edited November 5, 2017 by PaulRhB 22 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norton961 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 For those wanting to know a little more about the company Peckett, there is a history in Railway Bylines Summer Special Number 2. The article has 17 pages and lots of photographs. There is also a list of all the preserved locos. David 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ruggedpeak Posted November 11, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 11, 2017 (edited) I received an e-mail from Rails of Sheffield yesterday that the Hornby R6814 Huntly & Palmers wagon will be available soon. You can buy a new H&P Peckett from Rails to go with it for £180 , and you can pay in instalments.... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hornby-OO-GAUGE-R3429-HUNTLEY-AND-PALMERS-PECKETT-W4-0-4-0-LOCO-NO-832-1R/202103434023?hash=item2f0e4dab27:g:tGgAAOSw~vpZ7xwg Edited November 11, 2017 by ruggedpeak 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norton961 Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Hornby had the next release of the Peckett (Lilleshall Co No 10) in plain black on display at Wareley. This was a decorated sample and looked superb, for release in April next year. Can’t wait! David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnd Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 Hornby had the next release of the Peckett (Lilleshall Co No 10) in plain black on display at Wareley. This was a decorated sample and looked superb, for release in April next year. Can’t wait! David What no picture ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Islesy Posted December 8, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 8, 2017 Works.docx Good morning all - time to look ahead to future liveries for the Peckett W4 models. As you all know by now, there are 'early' and 'late' versions, of which we've concentrated on the 'early' variants. I have a long list of W4 locomotives that I have no picture references for or, if I do, they're so grainy that identification is impossible. There are potentially some cracking liveries lurking here; Bristol Gas Co. James Dunlop, United Alkali, Rowlands etc and I wonder if any of you have references, notes, book plates or have collected prints of any of the locos on the attached list please? You can PM if you'd like to remain anonymous to the forum, or post if you're not bothered, but however you respond, there'll be thanks from me chaps. If I don't say so before, Happy Christmas to you all and we look forward to seeing you at the shows next year. Best wishes, Paul. PS: Remember to keep 10:00am on January 8th free for your 'froth' satisfaction :-) 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold tomparryharry Posted December 8, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 8, 2017 (edited) Oooh! There's quite a few Welsh colliery layouts as a result of this! Lady Margaret colliery, Ynyshir, springs to mind. The screens were cleared every half hour, otherwise the pit was full to overflowing with coal. EDIT: Sorry Folks! My mistake! Lady Lewis colliery, Ynyshir. Lady Margaret was further up, at Treherbert. Edited December 8, 2017 by tomparryharry 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Islesy Posted December 8, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 8, 2017 This has to be a candidate.....George Jennings Afraid not, because of the extensive differences already highlighted with the later W4s. It's just the locomotives on the list that I'm looking to source references for... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted December 9, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 9, 2017 Afraid not, because of the extensive differences already highlighted with the later W4s. It's just the locomotives on the list that I'm looking to source references for... Ah!....Pity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Works.docx Good morning all - time to look ahead to future liveries for the Peckett W4 models. As you all know by now, there are 'early' and 'late' versions, of which we've concentrated on the 'early' variants. I have a long list of W4 locomotives that I have no picture references for or, if I do, they're so grainy that identification is impossible. There are potentially some cracking liveries lurking here; Bristol Gas Co. James Dunlop, United Alkali, Rowlands etc and I wonder if any of you have references, notes, book plates or have collected prints of any of the locos on the attached list please? You can PM if you'd like to remain anonymous to the forum, or post if you're not bothered, but however you respond, there'll be thanks from me chaps. If I don't say so before, Happy Christmas to you all and we look forward to seeing you at the shows next year. Best wishes, Paul. PS: Remember to keep 10:00am on January 8th free for your 'froth' satisfaction :-) How religiously are you wedded to the W4? I know its rank heresy bur early R1s were identical in appearance with only an inch in the cylinders difference - mixing medium but one third of a millimeter at 00 is hardly significant Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted December 9, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 9, 2017 As you all know by now, there are 'early' and 'late' versions, of which we've concentrated on the 'early' variants. Bravo for the refusal to be seduced by attractive but unprototypical liveries. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Works.docx Good morning all - time to look ahead to future liveries for the Peckett W4 models. As you all know by now, there are 'early' and 'late' versions, of which we've concentrated on the 'early' variants. I have a long list of W4 locomotives that I have no picture references for or, if I do, they're so grainy that identification is impossible. There are potentially some cracking liveries lurking here; Bristol Gas Co. James Dunlop, United Alkali, Rowlands etc and I wonder if any of you have references, notes, book plates or have collected prints of any of the locos on the attached list please? You can PM if you'd like to remain anonymous to the forum, or post if you're not bothered, but however you respond, there'll be thanks from me chaps. If I don't say so before, Happy Christmas to you all and we look forward to seeing you at the shows next year. Best wishes, Paul. PS: Remember to keep 10:00am on January 8th free for your 'froth' satisfaction :-) Excellent news. Can't wait to see what you come up with Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 How religiously are you wedded to the W4? I know its rank heresy bur early R1s were identical in appearance with only an inch in the cylinders difference - mixing medium but one third of a millimeter at 00 is hardly significant So would that ⅓ mm be the same length as 0,333r mm in 4mm = 1 foot scale (1:76.2 to 1) ??? This OO (or is it 00?) mularkey is terribly confusing. P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Personally I don't think it makes a blind bit of difference in miniature Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted December 10, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 10, 2017 (edited) So would that ⅓ mm be the same length as 0,333r mm in 4mm = 1 foot scale (1:76.2 to 1) ??? This OO (or is it 00?) mularkey is terribly confusing. P Work in inches, it’s easier... 12” is 1ft in real world sizes.. So: 12” = 4mm in OO 6” = 2mm in OO 3” = 1mm in OO 1.5” = 0.5mm in OO IMHO Anything under 2mm /6” inch is largely irrelevant in OO. Edited December 10, 2017 by adb968008 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted December 10, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 10, 2017 IMHO Anything under 2mm /6” inch is largely irrelevant in OO. sound of sharp intake of breath.... Though I give way to you on the question of gauge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted December 10, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 10, 2017 sound of sharp intake of breath.... Though I give way to you on the question of gauge. Well ok not everything, if a number plate was out by 2mm i’d Be upset, but I had wheel/boiler sizes in mind when I wrote it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 Work in inches, it’s easier... 12” is 1ft in real world sizes.. So: 12” = 4mm in OO 6” = 2mm in OO 3” = 1mm in OO 1.5” = 0.5mm in OO IMHO Anything under 2mm /6” inch is largely irrelevant in OO. Exactly so, which means that in 00 there is no discernible difference between an R1 and a W4, providing they are both of the early style as modelled by Hornby, which then widens the scope for liveries. A case in point would be Peckett 916 an R1 which worked in County Durham, and identical to Hornby's large domed W4 except for that fraction of a milimetre and dumb buffers. The livery, at one stage anyway, looks as though it might have been the same or very close to the faux MSC one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold tomparryharry Posted December 10, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 10, 2017 How religiously are you wedded to the W4? I know its rank heresy bur early R1s were identical in appearance with only an inch in the cylinders difference - mixing medium but one third of a millimeter at 00 is hardly significant 1/4 of a millimetre? In Great Western green? That's fitin' talk, that is! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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