RMweb Gold BR Blue Posted May 25, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 25, 2023 I think I will let the GT3 bundle offer pass me "buy" If they want to get rid of them, sell them singly at a reduced price. Some people might be tempted to buy one and repaint it to the correct livery. Not many people will want a model in a fictitious livery and even fewer I suspect will want 2 models of a single prototype in two different fictitious liveries. 1 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helmdon Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 3 hours ago, BR Blue said: I think I will let the GT3 bundle offer pass me "buy" If they want to get rid of them, sell them singly at a reduced price. Some people might be tempted to buy one and repaint it to the correct livery. Not many people will want a model in a fictitious livery and even fewer I suspect will want 2 models of a single prototype in two different fictitious liveries. I just want the one that I’ve got on pre-order in the ‘correct’ livery… must be on a boat by now…? 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chris p bacon Posted May 25, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 25, 2023 41 minutes ago, Helmdon said: must be on a boat by now…? I think the phrase is 'That ship has sailed' If you've put money down and it is past your delivery date I'd seek a refund from either KR or your card provider. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helmdon Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 (edited) 13 hours ago, chris p bacon said: I think the phrase is 'That ship has sailed' If you've put money down and it is past your delivery date I'd seek a refund from either KR or your card provider. no, in the current batch there's a number of actual livery GT3s, which are/were being sold through Rails of Sheffield, whose website still shows as 'available to pre-order' - my point was quite literally that I think they ought to be on a boat by now. Edited May 26, 2023 by Helmdon 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chris p bacon Posted May 26, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 26, 2023 3 hours ago, Helmdon said: no, in the current batch there's a number of actual livery GT3s, which are/were being sold through Rails of Sheffield, whose website still shows as 'available to pre-order' - my point was quite literally that I think they ought to be on a boat by now. Have Rails not given an approximate delivery date? Admittedly any date isn’t guaranteed but should be able to give you an idea of timescale. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted May 27, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 27, 2023 On 26/05/2023 at 10:51, Helmdon said: no, in the current batch there's a number of actual livery GT3s, which are/were being sold through Rails of Sheffield, whose website still shows as 'available to pre-order' - my point was quite literally that I think they ought to be on a boat by now. Very difficult for end customers to forecast where anything is in the production and delivery process without details from the 'manufacturer'. They should know when the goods leave the factory and which ship they are loaded to but that is about it. The manufacturing schedule might enable them to forecast a UK arrival date but as numerous companies in the UK model railway business have shown those dates can change. Simplest approach I think , even if it might be frustrating, is to work on the basis that it will be here when it arrives. And the only time to start worrying is if others are reporting receiving theirs while yours isn't arriving on your doorstep. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mvwilson Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 Can anyone with a GT3 have a look and tell me which axles these spacers go on please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoomer1979 Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 On 23/05/2023 at 17:28, Watto1990 said: Got mine, and it tore itself to pieces on the third time out of the box. Currently with KR for repair or replacement, but after those emails I have started to get the fear for it. Along with the 4DD and Leader I decided to pre-order. Mine is still a poor runner, even after fitting new pick-ups. I'm ready to throw it in the bin with frustration. I hate that I have to do anything to it just to have it running reliably after the money we paid. Neil. P.S. I did ask for the Fell thread to be unlocked, but no joy 🤔 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova Scotian Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 Wow at those e-mails. I was close to an order for Bellerophon - the first they'll be producing I've really wanted. Hummed and harred over it for a very long time. Was put off in original GT3 by their combative nature and not really wanting one. Then issues with the Fell. Kind of embarrassing to also be British ex-pat in Canada if this is what they sound like... My most immediate thought is a cashflow crunch. Selling each bundle would free up 40k - probably enough to pay for the next downpayment on CAD or tooling etc - and one assumes the ficticious liveries are not selling as hoped. My second thought was "why the hell would you still send an e-mail like that?". A persecution complex in no.1, flying close to the sun on "guaranteed profits" in no.2, and I just can't see it working on anyone. I'm still cringing. KR models off my list for a long time now. Can't trust them, don't like them. 9 4 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rembrow Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 On 25/05/2023 at 20:52, Helmdon said: I just want the one that I’ve got on pre-order in the ‘correct’ livery… must be on a boat by now…? Rails have posted today that they are expecting them in the next two weeks. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 12 hours ago, rembrow said: Rails have posted today that they are expecting them in the next two weeks. That could explain the urgency to sell the 'fantasy-liveried' ones. CJI. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWR-fan Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 Sorely tempted as it could be sometime before another release in a prototypical livery (if ever). However, not convinced in the long term reliability. For 200 qud there is a large market of proven performers with better reliability, engineering and detail. After feeling let down by the purchase of a Rails Heljan 18000 gas turbine (boring model), I am not sure I want to tread another gas turbine path. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helmdon Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 4 hours ago, GWR-fan said: Sorely tempted as it could be sometime before another release in a prototypical livery (if ever). However, not convinced in the long term reliability. For 200 qud there is a large market of proven performers with better reliability, engineering and detail. After feeling let down by the purchase of a Rails Heljan 18000 gas turbine (boring model), I am not sure I want to tread another gas turbine path. I'm not sure there have been too many complaints from people about the original GT3 though have there? Beyond this and that which could have been better anyway. I resisted it the first time round, but given that it's actually right for my layout, even if out by a couple of years, and almost certainly not only could I not do a better model myself but other manufacturers are likely to give it a wide berth because it has sold reasonably well and presumably soaked up much of the demand, so on that basis I'm in. I'd rather regret buying it than missing it, and I'll probably have some fun with it anyway. Other people's equations will be different. 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Dragonfly Posted June 20, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 20, 2023 Something green has appeared in my postbox... 11 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wainwright1 Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 Certainly looks nice in that livery. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartingram Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 Yuk! 5 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
natterjack Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 I had hoped they would correct some of the more obvious errors ( I have something of a gripe about this as evidence backed advice offered during design was peremptorily dismissed). 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helmdon Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 My brown one is now run in nicely over the afternoon- very happy with it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
natterjack Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 (edited) Why have they got a sand box below each side of the cab? The RHS space was occupied by really chunky hand brake gear and where are the domed con rod bearing covers. These things are obvious in any half way decent photos of the original. Edited June 20, 2023 by natterjack spelling correction 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted June 21, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 21, 2023 7 hours ago, natterjack said: where are the domed con rod bearing covers The domed con rod covers come in the detail bag for fitting by the buyer. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium ColinK Posted June 21, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 21, 2023 Really suits the BR green. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted June 21, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 21, 2023 44 minutes ago, ColinK said: Really suits the BR green. Indeed. The fact that a livery is not authentic does not stop it being potentially attractive. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 The green one is not to my personal taste although it suits the loco quite well. For sure, this will definitely turn peoples heads at a show especially with the turbine noises.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Dragonfly Posted June 21, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 21, 2023 My only note with the green (and the br black, even), is that... Would it still have the GT3 number? Once it's got BR logos, it would maybe gain a BR number? So I'm going to be getting mine numbered 18200 at some point. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 2 hours ago, Oldddudders said: Indeed. The fact that a livery is not authentic does not stop it being potentially attractive. In a Marilyn Monroe lookalike sort of way? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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