Sutton's Locomotive Works *NEW* Class 25

[Chris56057]

Last email newsletter mentioned end of summer for the first set of 25's. 

[Roy Langridge]

21 hours ago, GD said:

I've given up on these and cancelled my 2 preorders, the funds I had allocated for these ended up on accurascale mk2Bs and Cs,

Only 2 1/2 years since announcement and soon to arrive. I can think of lots of other models that have taken a lot longer. 
 

Roy

[jjb1970]

15 minutes ago, Roy Langridge said:

Only 2 1/2 years since announcement and soon to arrive. I can think of lots of other models that have taken a lot longer. 
 

Roy

 

Particularly given that two and a half years was subject to exceptional circumstances and supply chain disruption which was probably unprecedented in peace time. Given it's a small company I think it'd be most unfair not to give them a good bit of leeway in such circumstances, especially when much bigger companies have struggled to deliver new products.

[GD]

1 hour ago, jjb1970 said:

 

Particularly given that two and a half years was subject to exceptional circumstances and supply chain disruption which was probably unprecedented in peace time. Given it's a small company I think it'd be most unfair not to give them a good bit of leeway in such circumstances, especially when much bigger companies have struggled to deliver new products.

Valid points but an update once a month would have been appreciated

[Zunnan]

31 minutes ago, GD said:

Valid points but an update once a month would have been appreciated

 

I don't see Bachmann making monthly updates on their class 25, which has been in development for 5 1/2 years since announcement. A little perspective perhaps.

Edited August 20, 2023 by Zunnan
can't add up!

[GordonC]

25 minutes ago, GD said:

Valid points but an update once a month would have been appreciated

 

I love the SLW products, but they really dont give regular and reliable updates of progress. It'd be good if they'd say when production is complete or when they're being shipped.

[BR traction instructor]

...mmm...waiting a considerable amount of time for a mediocre non SLW type 2, or waiting a similar amount of time for a SLW type 2 that is unlikely to be matched, let alone exceeded...I'll be buying SLW every time.

 

BeRTIe

[Roy Langridge]

48 minutes ago, GordonC said:

 

I love the SLW products, but they really dont give regular and reliable updates of progress. It'd be good if they'd say when production is complete or when they're being shipped.

We know what to expect from SLW re updates, Phil has always been very clear about his ways of communicating. If we get monthly updates, somebody will expect fortnightly, fortnightly and somebody will expect weekly… 
 

I think the likes of Accurascale have changed expectations, however, I am yet to be convinced that these expectations are actually reasonable.

Let the models speak for themselves, they will be worth the wait and will be here when they are and not a day before. 

 

Roy

[Solo]

2 hours ago, GD said:

Valid points but an update once a month would have been appreciated

But what would these updates say? It won't change when the model is ready or how good it is. SLW give very comprehensive updates once or twice a year and also appear with samples at the odd show. We know roughly when the model is arriving because we were told months ago.  

 

Other manufacturers may appear to be more effusive with updates (and most over-promise), but you have to remember that they have many more models in production at any one time; SLW only cover two prototypes, the gestation for which is necessarily long.

[jjb1970]

I may be wrong but my recollection is that SLW announced these early following Heljan's announcement to let potential customers know they were also working on one. When they released the 24 it was announced when it was with them ready to sell and I think that is their preference, avoiding a lot of speculation, frothing and marketing guff, similar to the current Bachmann approach. It's a personal preference and I know many others differ but I much prefer the Bachmann and SLW approach.

[E100]

7 hours ago, jjb1970 said:

I may be wrong but my recollection is that SLW announced these early following Heljan's announcement to let potential customers know they were also working on one. When they released the 24 it was announced when it was with them ready to sell and I think that is their preference, avoiding a lot of speculation, frothing and marketing guff, similar to the current Bachmann approach. It's a personal preference and I know many others differ but I much prefer the Bachmann and SLW approach.

 

You're correct but it did make me cancel my Heljan order and I still don't regret that decision.

[Chris56057]

I made a phone call to SLW this week regarding my order of 25324. They advised that the 25's should be here in October - subject to usual caveats. 

[BR traction instructor]

SLW customers for the new class 25s should check their mailboxes.

 

BeRTIe

[Roy Langridge]

51 minutes ago, BR traction instructor said:

SLW customers for the new class 25s should check their mailboxes.

 

BeRTIe

I am, and I did, and nothing :-(

 

Roy

[BR traction instructor]

...email Phil/Jennie at SLW and ask for their associated release to be resent to you.

 

BeRTIe

[Roy Langridge]

Just now, BR traction instructor said:

...email Phil/Jennie at SLW and ask for their associated release to be resent to you.

 

BeRTIe

I now have an email, not sure why it was not there when I first chrcked. Thanks for the heads up. 

 

Roy

[Daddyman]

I wouldn't bother checking your inbox - there's nothing about when the loco is due. 

Edited September 18, 2023 by Daddyman

[Chris56057]

48 minutes ago, Daddyman said:

I wouldn't bother checking your inbox - there's nothing about when the loco is due. 

See my post above for more info. 

[Daddyman]

3 minutes ago, Chris56057 said:

See my post above for more info. 

Yes, I saw that - thank you! 

[Darius43]

Nice to be invited but a day trip to Crewe is a bit of a stretch, living in Worthing.

 

Maybe there’ll be an announcement on the day…

 

Cheers

 

Darius

[SRman]

54 minutes ago, Darius43 said:

Nice to be invited but a day trip to Crewe is a bit of a stretch, living in Worthing.

 

Maybe there’ll be an announcement on the day…

 

Cheers

 

Darius

 

Likewise, except a trip from Melbourne is just a tad further still away! 😉

[E100]

Real shame it was announced just a bit too late for me to commit to it having jut travelled that direction this past weekend but a very nice gesture all the same.

[Michael Hodgson]

"Important note: This event is not open to the general public and entry is by invitation. Please do not share or distribute."

 

[The Ghost of IKB]

Email says delivery is imminent,  so that sounds positive! 

[aureol40012]

Phoned to pay for my 25’s yesterday and they wouldn’t be pinned down on specific dates, but 25324 will be amongst the first locos to arrive, with locos announced after those launch locos arriving later.