Heljan OO Newton Chambers Car Transporter

[Enterprisingwestern]

3 hours ago, Phil Bullock said:

Anyone looking for evidence of TCVs off the ECML just type Warship Newton Abbot in to a Facebook search … there are at least two pictures with them in the background, off the Stirling train. 
 

@Downendian may have more…

 

They were used on the Sheffield- NA.

 

Mike.

[stovepipe]

Both actually, as well as Newcastle and Edinburgh to Newton Abbot over the years.

[LNERandBR]

4 hours ago, 37114 said:

Just 2 here:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/153712773@N08/48896972441/in/photolist-NQGdbF-2huRLmZ-6T75af-ZCEE5L-2kAR9tt-prySCc-2eyVkLD-oxPb45

 

 

So, would the rest of the formation be Mk1 Passenger coaches? Looks like there's a Motorail GUV next to them.

[adb968008]

7 hours ago, LNERandBR said:

 

So, would the rest of the formation be Mk1 Passenger coaches? Looks like there's a Motorail GUV next to them.

Depends, I saw a nice picture of a Deltic and mk2’s with these.

 

Fantastic choice to make these ! - carriage of the year decision for me, I want to see them in the flesh now.

Edited November 26, 2022 by adb968008

[adb968008]

These look fantastic… check out the end detailing.

 

 

roof is removable.

 

Edited November 26, 2022 by adb968008

[adb968008]

A few more.. definitely highlight of the day so far

[Simon Lee]

22 hours ago, Fat Controller said:

Both these wagons, and their 'freight' equivalent, the Tierwag, seem to have carried markings indicating they could travel on the Train Ferry. Is there any evidence suggesting that they did ?

There is anecdotal "evidence" from former colleages that a Tierwag was trialled on the Train Ferry, but not one of these. 

 

Never seen a photo, but live in hope as a previous "holy grail" of a Warship on the Admiralty Pier lines turned up after many years of searching .

[adb968008]

FYI,

 

roofs are magnet fitted to easy remove. (No interior in the same I just handled).

 

there are vac and dual brakes versions to look out for in Blue/Grey.

 

would look good with a sealed beam 46 was my comment ;-)

[Michael Hodgson]

The model is described as having steam heat/ETH.  Really? 

 

I could see a reason for a steam pipe running through, but do cars need ripening like bananas?

Pehaps the cars needed drying on the return working from Scotland?

[mckinneyc]

They look stunning!

 

I did see a photo online, just can't remember where, of 3 carriers plus the 4 Mk1 day carriages making a realistic formation more affordable for folk.

[Porcy Mane]

34 minutes ago, Simon Lee said:

There is anecdotal "evidence" from former colleages that a Tierwag was trialled on the Train Ferry, but not one of these. 

 

The MAT open tierwags regularly worked right into the Fiat factory at Turin. (The Italian Job). Fiats were then imported into the UK via Dover Dunkirk ferry. There is an article with accompanying photographs in trains illustrated. A read through the "cars by rail" thread might be useful.

 

[Porcy Mane]

11 hours ago, adb968008 said:

Depends, I saw a nice picture of a Deltic and mk2’s with these.

 

Might we see a re-run of the Heljan DP2?  Hopefully Accurascale will get there first.

 

THE FUTURE BECKONS by Bill Watson, on Flickr

 

but who needs DP2 or a Deltic. A Bachmann J72 perhaps? These are the two car carriers that were attached/detached from the ASCC at NCL central awaiting positioning into the motorail platform behind the platform.

 

 

1 hour ago, adb968008 said:

definitely highlight of the day so far

 

Thanks for posting the phots. Good to make an assessment. I'd have hoped these are pre-pod prototypes but I doubt it.

That's a very poor representation of  an RIV buffer. Easy to change out for something more accurate but why should that be necessary considering the RRP & claims of accuracy. If between me and LMS models being able to do it, surely a premium manufacturer could manage it.

 

 

P

Edited November 26, 2022 by Porcy Mane

[hmrspaul]

My photos of these https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/?q=newton

 

Paul

[mckinneyc]

Apologies if this has already been answered but what does the anchor symbol denote?

[Roy Langridge]

3 minutes ago, mckinneyc said:

Apologies if this has already been answered but what does the anchor symbol denote?

International vehicles cleared for UK loading gauge. 
 

Roy

[mckinneyc]

Just now, Roy Langridge said:

International vehicles cleared for UK loading gauge. 
 

Roy

Cheers Roy!

[davidw]

On 26/11/2022 at 10:36, adb968008 said:

A few more.. definitely highlight of the day so far

Wow...

[Steadfast]

On 26/11/2022 at 11:06, Michael Hodgson said:

The model is described as having steam heat/ETH.  Really? 

 

I could see a reason for a steam pipe running through, but do cars need ripening like bananas?

Pehaps the cars needed drying on the return working from Scotland?

Presumably through wired ETH for when these were between the loco and passenger coaches, unless used for lighting or similar? 

 

No different to a through steam heat pipe 

 

Jo

[adb968008]

24 minutes ago, Steadfast said:

Presumably through wired ETH for when these were between the loco and passenger coaches, unless used for lighting or similar? 

 

No different to a through steam heat pipe 

 

Jo

A link elsewhere on RMWeb shows these being behind a loco with Mk3’s attached… 

 

 

[MikeParkin65]

Very impressed with the finish on these. 

[Porcy Mane]

13 minutes ago, MikeParkin65 said:

Very impressed with the finish on these. 

 

Looks like the roof nearest to the tender may be requiring a stronger magnet.

[MikeParkin65]

1 minute ago, Porcy Mane said:

 

Looks like the roof nearest to the tender may be requiring a stronger magnet.

Fair point, didn’t notice that

[61661]

14 hours ago, Porcy Mane said:

 

Looks like the roof nearest to the tender may be requiring a stronger magnet.

The roofs and the magnets are fine on all the samples - looks to me like someone on the Hornby Magazine layout (who borrowed a set over the weekend) just hasn't replaced the roof properly. 

[Porcy Mane]

36 minutes ago, 61661 said:

someone on the Hornby Magazine layout (who borrowed a set over the weekend) just hasn't replaced the roof properly. 

 

I thought it would be something like that. Said in jest.

 

So are the representation of the RIV buffers we see on these samples the same as will be fitted to the production samples?

 

... and while I'm on  (but on a different topic); will the incorrect livery application on the BR/N.E.R. painted ES1 be corrected on the production version?

 

Thanks.

[davidw]

I'll need 2 packs of these!