Moderators AY Mod Posted January 9, 2023 Moderators Share Posted January 9, 2023 Hornby announce die-cast bodied Hornby Dublo DELTIC prototype. R30297 Availability DEC 2023 RRP £320.99 DCC Ready 21 pin socket Minimum Curve (mm) Radius 2 Motor 5 Pole Skew wound 5 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rogerzilla Posted January 10, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 10, 2023 Isn't the Bachmann NRM one good enough? I love DP1 but I don't understand this from Hornby. 4 34 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Griffin Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 5 minutes ago, rogerzilla said: Isn't the Bachmann NRM one good enough? I love DP1 but I don't understand this from Hornby. Agreed. IMO they wont beat the Bachmann version in terms of finesse, or indeed price! 2 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toton Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 6 minutes ago, rogerzilla said: Isn't the Bachmann NRM one good enough? I love DP1 but I don't understand this from Hornby. It's a Dublo model with a diecast body. 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted January 10, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 10, 2023 It's for collectors! 9 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Brasher Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 It looks like it is more accurate than the original Hornby Dublo model but will it be able to pull a boy? 5 1 2 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanguard 5374 Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 16 minutes ago, rogerzilla said: Isn't the Bachmann NRM one good enough? I love DP1 but I don't understand this from Hornby. When did Bachmann last release a model of DP1 for OO? Quick look on ebay reveals some customers are happy to pay £200-£350 for a model of the loco, if it is a limited release by Hornby I am sure they will be able to sell a few batches. 1 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerzilla Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 Just now, Vanguard 5374 said: When did Bachmann last release a model of DP1 for OO? Quick look on ebay reveals some customers are happy to pay £200-£350 for a model of the loco, if it is a limited release by Hornby I am sure they will be able to sell a few batches. Point taken, but Hornby's investment in tooling seems risky given that Bachmann could (presumably) push the button on another batch. If I were Bachmann, I would. 1 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mevaman1 Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 Ohh, what is the point! This is a prototype that has been successfully produced by Bachmann. I just don’t get why Hornby is releasing this. 3 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium gc4946 Posted January 10, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 10, 2023 I'd never anticipated Hornby bringing out this model! It's a nod to Dublo and Liverpool - the prototype first ran in service between London Euston and Liverpool before transferring to the ECML. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MikeParkin65 Posted January 10, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 10, 2023 Clever choice. A special model of a special loco that will tap into both the collectors market and the current heightened interest in things Deltic generated by the Accurascale model. 5 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanguard 5374 Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 1 minute ago, rogerzilla said: Point taken, but Hornby's investment in tooling seems risky given that Bachmann could (presumably) push the button on another batch. If I were Bachmann, I would. It's been a few years since Bachmann did a release that wasn't a Graham Farish model. Perhaps the chance to do so has now gone, duplicating an exact loco for the same market isn't going to benefit anyone. They had their time to make another run, I'm glad to see Hornby have a go at it. 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 I take it that the photos are the actual prototype so maybe some dev work to do. I've lost track of who owns the loco now... Anyway a bit of a surprise this one and I'm perfectly happy with my Bachmann one to want another which is hard to beat. I do wonder. DP2 next? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 Clever selection, I'll be getting one in tribute to my late father who was raised within the sound of the Binns Road works hooter, and who saw the prototype on the main line passing the back of the house in Wavertree. A really apt and fitting addition to the HD range and the real thing even ran to Leith Central using the Waverley route, whilst being trialled, so mine won't need to stay a shelf-queen! Seriously, great piece of eye-catching competition here, well done Hornby. 7 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nathan70000 Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 This is a perplexing and frankly bizarre choice. If this year is indeed a catch-up year for Hornby and money for new tooling is limited, I would have picked something more useful to the modeller with plenty of potential for re-runs and different liveries. DELTIC is iconic, but surely anyone who really wants one has one already, and anyone who hasn't can buy the Bachmann model for far less. 3 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted January 10, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 10, 2023 I wonder if they might get tempted to put a regular 55 body on that chassis. 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Bucoops Posted January 10, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 10, 2023 Does the NRM need to give approval for one of their collection to be produced? e.g. Locomotion Models have the rights as it were? Not sure how it works so could be wrong (and of course Hornby could have the OK). 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jjb1970 Posted January 10, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 10, 2023 I wasn't expecting this one, but a diecast metal Deltic will be very nice if done well. The Bachmann model tends to be quite expensive, and this will appeal to collectors as well as those wanting a model of the prototype. I will try and get one of these. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaymzHatstand Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 And in terms of unltimate accuracy, they've even made the big dummy headlight work! Even the real one didn't do that! I really don't understand why they've gone for something covered well already, in a model that still holds up well today, despite being a good few years old. Hey ho, it's not my money! Cheers J 1 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Phil Parker Posted January 10, 2023 Administrators Share Posted January 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, JaymzHatstand said: And in terms of unltimate accuracy, they've even made the big dummy headlight work! Even the real one didn't do that! For some reason, the working lights remind me of the classic Transcontinental Dock Shunter. This is a good thing. And it's sad, but I really quite fancy one because of this. I love a gizmo! 9 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MikeParkin65 Posted January 10, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 10, 2023 34 minutes ago, adb968008 said: I wonder if they might get tempted to put a regular 55 body on that chassis. Believe DP1 is shorter than the production version 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 Just now, MikeParkin65 said: Believe DP1 is shorter than the production version They could produce an injection-moulded pale blue 9006 'Fife and Forfar Yeomanry' on this new chassis as an introduction to the 'Lima Heritage' range! 3 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nearholmer Posted January 10, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 10, 2023 For those who don’t get it, this is why this loco will sell: It is the thing that Binns Road implied they’d make, but never did. 11 14 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Popular Post Hal Nail Posted January 10, 2023 RMweb Premium Popular Post Share Posted January 10, 2023 53 minutes ago, nathan70000 said: This is a perplexing and frankly bizarre choice. 1 hour ago, 'CHARD said: Clever selection, 1 hour ago, MikeParkin65 said: Clever choice. 1 hour ago, mevaman1 said: Ohh, what is the point! Quick summary for those just joining. 6 1 2 36 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrel Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 I don't understand this one from Hornby a one off prototype that only carried one livery. A model that has already been done by Bachmann and done extremely well. If you want a model of deltic chances are you have already bought the Bachmann one. Which is also much cheaper. Instead of wasting all the development costs they could have done something else Instead something with more livery variations that they could sell more of. If they wanted to do a prototype loco they could have done the prototype HST power car. If they wanted to duplicate a Bachmann model they could have done a class 47 there are enough livery variations to make that worthwhile. This seems a bizarre decision by Hornby. 1 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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