Ajax50046 Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 Each month I tell myself I’m going to start increasing my pension contributions before it gets too late. And each month Accurascale announce more items that I simply must have and scupper my good intentions 🤦🏻♂️😄. 66001 this time. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denny Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 (edited) 33 minutes ago, NickL2008 said: Was 005 the same? Respraying my Hattons one, it possibly is, but looks black to me? NL Not the best scan but no. 005 had black grills from new. Note the flush horn grill. Early mods included a new horn grill and for the EWS examples, the more obvious wing mirrors. (My photo) Edited April 18, 2023 by Denny 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeroplane Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 Accurascale's website has 66779 as the 4th best-selling class 66 (outseliing the FL & DRS 66), even though it's only been on sale 8 hours! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pmorgancym Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 Oh well ordered 779. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham_Muz Posted April 18, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 18, 2023 2 hours ago, Goodnight Sweetheart said: I lost £90 over three locos (37, and two 92) when my circumstances changed last year hence why I’m a little uneasy regards any initial payments I don’t understand why it is / was required ? Although I understand what you’ve said it’s been dropped now, which is a welcomed move. Under the Online and Distance Selling regulations you have a right to cancel for a full refund up to 14 days after the goods arrive and that includes ANY deposits even if at the time you cancel only a deposit has been paid and the goods have not yet arrived (despite what some retailers might have you think). 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodnight Sweetheart Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 33 minutes ago, Graham_Muz said: Under the Online and Distance Selling regulations you have a right to cancel for a full refund up to 14 days after the goods arrive and that includes ANY deposits even if at the time you cancel only a deposit has been paid and the goods have not yet arrived (despite what some retailers might have you think). Unfortunately it was many months post order. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steadfast Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 1 hour ago, NickL2008 said: Was 005 the same? Respraying my Hattons one, it possibly is, but looks black to me? NL Nope, as Rich @The Fatadder commented after it was only 001 and 002 with the maroon grills. To add to that, 002 retains it's maroon grills to this day, 001 kept them until painted DB red in 2013. Both 001 and 002 have the screwlink coupling and class 59 lookalike dragbox. This model really is in launch condition, as well as the flush horn grill and lack of mirrors, it also has the lamp brackets in the class 59 position. A very early mod was to move them to the standard 66 position, above the secondman's side BMAC light cluster. Jo 3 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham_Muz Posted April 18, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 18, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Goodnight Sweetheart said: Unfortunately it was many months post order. It's not post the order date your right to cancel for a full refund is before or up to 14 days after the goods arrive. Anyway back to sheds. Edited April 18, 2023 by Graham_Muz 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creampot Junction Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 9 hours ago, The Fatadder said: Very good news on 66001, hopefully the Accurascale numbers will be as easy to remove as the Hattons ones were so I can switch it to 002, much as I dread the thought of applying numbers over those ribs again! Hi, I am looking to renumber one of my EWS Hatton's 66's myself. I was wondering how easy it is to remove the numbers, espically the ones on the ribs? Also have you got any tips on how to put the new numbers / transfers over the rib sides. Many Thanks Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted April 18, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Graham_Muz said: Under the Online and Distance Selling regulations you have a right to cancel for a full refund up to 14 days after the goods arrive and that includes ANY deposits even if at the time you cancel only a deposit has been paid and the goods have not yet arrived (despite what some retailers might have you think). Not quite 100% true. The amount refunded may be reduced if the value of the goods has been affected as a result of you handling the item. So, for example, if you opened the sealed accessory bag, took the body of a Hattons 66 and the paint flaked off the steps (lots of us have been there...) and then decided you just didn't want to keep the item even though all was good, the seller could argue that the good could not be resold as new and the value has been reduced. Roy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Fatadder Posted April 18, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 18, 2023 9 minutes ago, Creampot Junction said: Hi, I am looking to renumber one of my EWS Hatton's 66's myself. I was wondering how easy it is to remove the numbers, espically the ones on the ribs? Also have you got any tips on how to put the new numbers / transfers over the rib sides. Many Thanks Chris I used IPA as a softener and a blunted cocktail stick to scrape off the number. (The printed number sort of reverts back to paint so you have to be careful not to stain the yellow. I actually used this to touch up the holes where I filled the wing mirrors) as for adding the new transfers, the old approach of liberal amounts of microsol/set is not advised with Railtec transfers. I made sure to get a gloss finish where the new transfers were going, then followed the Railtec instructions (using a dash of pva with the transfer water) before sealing with another coat of Klear and then varnishing. You really need to replace the EWS logo in its dodgy font at the same time for consistency (and certainly have to change all 5 numbers.) hoping the same approach will be fine on the Accurascale model 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ruggedpeak Posted April 18, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 18, 2023 3 hours ago, Goodnight Sweetheart said: I lost £90 over three locos (37, and two 92) when my circumstances changed last year hence why I’m a little uneasy regards any initial payments I don’t understand why it is / was required ? Although I understand what you’ve said it’s been dropped now, which is a welcomed move. If you paid £90 previously have you asked AS about putting it towards something you are ordering now? They've had your money already, and it is not as if they are left with huge overstocks of locos. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham_Muz Posted April 18, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 18, 2023 11 minutes ago, Roy Langridge said: Not quite 100% true. The amount refunded may be reduced if the value of the goods has been affected as a result of you handling the item. So, for example, if you opened the sealed accessory bag, took the body of a Hattons 66 and the paint flaked off the steps (lots of us have been there...) and then decided you just didn't want to keep the item even though all was good, the seller could argue that the good could not be resold as new and the value has been reduced. Roy Indeed, although main point being made in response to the original post is that any deposit paid IS refundable under the regulations if you decide to cancel even if before delivery. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold McC Posted April 18, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 18, 2023 39 minutes ago, Graham_Muz said: Indeed, although main point being made in response to the original post is that any deposit paid IS refundable under the regulations if you decide to cancel even if before delivery. If, it was a deposit which it was not. I’ve reached out directly to the OP and i’m sure as always we can look after him however. 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickL2008 Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 3 hours ago, Denny said: Not the best scan but no. 005 had black grills from new. Note the flush horn grill. Early mods included a new horn grill and for the EWS examples, the more obvious wing mirrors. (My photo) Yes definitely black, of course remember all the new 66s, but as it was 25 years ago memory is a little fuzzy! Hattons shade is on the pale side so opted for a respray of it. @Creampot Junction I removed mine using enamel thinners and a cocktail stick, as @The Fatadder mentions, try not to run too hard as the gold paint is rather thin. Angle the stick up and down so to get the number off between and on the ribbed sides Thanks everyone for confirming about 66005 - much appreciated gents NL 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan91 Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 5 hours ago, Craig1989 said: Will evening star come with the bell already fitted or separate? cheers Craig Since we all want our trains as detailed as possible I'd rather want to know if it has a working bell-clapper! 🤪 No, just kidding. But out of curiosity; is the bell actually functional on the real model? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodnight Sweetheart Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 9 hours ago, Graham_Muz said: It's not post the order date your right to cancel for a full refund is before or up to 14 days after the goods arrive. Anyway back to sheds. Ah okay, thank you I didn’t know that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted April 19, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 19, 2023 8 hours ago, Ryan91 said: Since we all want our trains as detailed as possible I'd rather want to know if it has a working bell-clapper! 🤪 No, just kidding. But out of curiosity; is the bell actually functional on the real model? Yes the bell does work but it’s via a speaker apparently, there is a switch in the electrical cupboard to operate it. I keep forgetting to have a look for it when I’m on it 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodnight Sweetheart Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 13 hours ago, Graham_Muz said: Indeed, although main point being made in response to the original post is that any deposit paid IS refundable under the regulations if you decide to cancel even if before delivery. Just to update on this, Accurascale have been in touch. I’ll say they’ve been exceptional, and I’m very pleased indeed ! 6 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham_Muz Posted April 19, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 19, 2023 12 hours ago, McC said: If, it was a deposit which it was not. I’ve reached out directly to the OP and i’m sure as always we can look after him however. Good that you are reaching out to the person concerned, thank you. Just for clarity, any payment whatever it is called, (deposit, part payment etc.) is still refundable in accordance with the UK Regulations upon cancellation. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold McC Posted April 19, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 19, 2023 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Graham_Muz said: Good that you are reaching out to the person concerned, thank you. Just for clarity, any payment whatever it is called, (deposit, part payment etc.) is still refundable in accordance with the UK Regulations upon cancellation. Legally, if it's a part payment, probably, though under UK consumer law, 'deposits' and commitments to buy are not legally refundable, which is why I made my point about you missing the point - for a period, we took reservation fees on locomotives due to the admin-heavy nature of the process, which were non refundable. Moot now, as we use a deferred payment commitment instead, which is automated and does not require the manual admin overhead, Edited April 19, 2023 by McC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Csalem Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 Have 66001 and 66779 ever met in real life? Had a quick search on Flickr but found nothing. (Odds are they have been in same place at same time, but would be nice to see first and last together). 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham_Muz Posted April 19, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 19, 2023 (edited) 28 minutes ago, McC said: Legally, if it's a part payment, probably, though under UK consumer law, 'deposits' and commitments to buy are not legally refundable, which is why I made my point about you missing the point - for a period, we took reservation fees on locomotives due to the admin-heavy nature of the process, which were non refundable. Moot now, as we use a deferred payment commitment instead, which is automated and does not require the manual admin overhead, This is not correct in accordance with the UK Online and Distance Selling Regulations which applies for any order placed online under the right to cancel. Edited April 19, 2023 by Graham_Muz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold McC Posted April 19, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 19, 2023 2 minutes ago, Graham_Muz said: This is not correct in accordance with the UK Online and Distance Selling Regulations which applies for any order placed online and the right to cancel. Aside from being off topic Graham, I'll defer to our actual legal team, who provided that our (legacy) reservation fees were not refundable in the event of a customer breach of contract, as provided for , and reconfirm that as we now use an automated platform, we're happy to refund any deposit or part payment advanced on any of our preorders as we, indeed, move to a no money down whatsoever model, with the launch of the J69 range, and new Class 37 batch, and as we move forward. 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
letterspider Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 Hi Fran, are there are any plans for the Freightliner liveries 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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