York Show 2024

[SteveyDee68]

18 minutes ago, Clive Mortimore said:

It was a good show, well what I saw of it between operating Victoria.

 

I managed to bash my big toe on a chair leg I found while making my way to the loo in the dark in the hotel room. Bang me 'ead on something helping the Grantham crew pack up said layout. Trip over slightly raised paving stone returning to the hotel from the venue. The most spectacular was falling over @Bungus the Fogeyman's  tool box and nearly stage diving from the first floor into the operating well of Grantham on the ground floor below.

Came looking for you @Clive Mortimoreon the Saturday, but both times my mate Dave and I called by you happened to be elsewhere! (First Aid station, perchance?)

 

The show was a great day out, and we are already talking about doing it again next year!

 

Steve S

[BoD]

On 01/04/2024 at 13:57, Phil Parker said:

An excellent show as always. Some cracking layouts, but the highlight has to be the best custard doughnut I have ever eaten.

 

That’s definitely ‘out of gauge’ in places.

Just like me.

 

Seriously though, an excellent show, thanks to all involved.

 

The highlight for me was looking along the length of South Pelaw at all the exquisite signalling. An awesome sight.

[96701]

24 minutes ago, BoD said:

That’s definitely ‘out of gauge’ in places.

Just like me.

 

Seriously though, an excellent show, thanks to all involved.

 

The highlight for me was looking along the length of South Pelaw at all the exquisite signalling. An awesome sight.

I managed to get a phone snap of it in the morning sun streaming through the windows before the show opened.

 

[St Enodoc]

3 hours ago, Clive Mortimore said:

It was a good show, well what I saw of it between operating Victoria.

 

I managed to bash my big toe on a chair leg I found while making my way to the loo in the dark in the hotel room. Bang me 'ead on something helping the Grantham crew pack up said layout. Trip over slightly raised paving stone returning to the hotel from the venue. The most spectacular was falling over @Bungus the Fogeyman's  tool box and nearly stage diving from the first floor into the operating well of Grantham on the ground floor below.

Apart from that, Mrs Lincoln, what did you think of the show?

[Porcy Mane]

4 hours ago, 96701 said:

I managed to get a phone snap of it in the morning sun streaming through the windows before the show opened.

 

For photographs, that morning sun was very helpful but the temperature variation on the track between that in direct sunlight and that in shade had to be felt to be believed.

 

[john new]

Lost property

 

One significant item - a piece of ladies jewelry. 

 

A couple of other items.

• A glove (probably a man's) dropped on set up day. Only mentioned as with leather protective patches you might want it back.
• A small note book. (Address/contacts?)

 

The usual if you give us a description as confirmation we can return it. All other items that were handed in were reclaimed over the show period.

 

Edited April 3 by john new
Extra note added.

[TT100 Diesels]

Went on the Saturday, first time to the York show.

 

Everything about the event can be summed up in one word

 

QUALITY

 

So everyone involved, take a bow.

 

Cheers

 

TT100 Diesels

[acg5324]

20 hours ago, Clive Mortimore said:

It was a good show, well what I saw of it between operating Victoria.

 

I managed to bash my big toe on a chair leg I found while making my way to the loo in the dark in the hotel room. Bang me 'ead on something helping the Grantham crew pack up said layout. Trip over slightly raised paving stone returning to the hotel from the venue. The most spectacular was falling over @Bungus the Fogeyman's  tool box and nearly stage diving from the first floor into the operating well of Grantham on the ground floor below.

We wondered what the massive crash was…..

[jwealleans]

15 minutes ago, acg5324 said:

We wondered what the massive crash was…..

 

We all ducked!

[RANGERS]

20 hours ago, Clive Mortimore said:

 

....The most spectacular was falling over @Bungus the Fogeyman's  tool box and nearly stage diving from the first floor into the operating well of Grantham on the ground floor below.

 

You really must take more care, you'd have been responsible for wrecking a quite magnificent  layout...

[Bungus the Fogeyman]

Quote

You really must take more care, you'd have been responsible for wrecking a quite magnificent  layout...

Don't panic Andy, Victoria came out of it unscathed!

 

Disgusting of Market Harborough

[Clive Mortimore]

1 hour ago, RANGERS said:

You really must take more care, you'd have been responsible for wrecking a quite magnificent  layout...

Not too sure how to respond, had I not been converting locos and stock to run on such a magnificent layout the tool box would possibly been left back in Market Harborough.

[Clive Mortimore]

2 hours ago, acg5324 said:

We wondered what the massive crash was…..

So did I until I realised I was no longer upright but in a heap on the floor.

Edited April 3 by Clive Mortimore

[Steamport Southport]

On 02/04/2024 at 19:49, newbryford said:

 

Which goes to prove you'll never please all the people,  all of the time.

 

If such an era was popular,  then there would be lots of layouts about.

 

Glad I'm not an exhibition manager.

 

I thought it was a popular era. It should be as there are still plenty of RTR models being made from that era. Maybe the people modelling those layouts aren't exhibiting them? Possibly they are of the generation that hasn't returned "properly"  to railway modelling yet as many people my age will have young families.

 

End of the BR Blue era, loss of many classic diesel and electric loco types, the end of the BR wagons from the steam age, still plenty of loco hauled stock, arrival of Railfreight Grey, Large Logo Blue, NSE, Scotrail, Intercity, Regional Railways, end of the first generation DMUs and EMUs, arrival of the Pacers and Sprinters, etc.

 

After that it got a bit boring IMHO.

 

 

Jason

[gr.king]

I was very pleased that there were a good number of traditional, steam-era, continuous-run layouts of a reasonable or large size, modelled sensibly and authentically in a reasonably "restrained" manner, having required substantial amounts of kit or scratch building to bring them into being.  It raised the exhibition to a standard well above the increasingly common one of a load of small shunting planks and /or RTR clone models, clone buildings, ready made coarse track, modern image stock in gaudy kids' paintbox "livery" schemes, overly-bright twinkly lights, "pushy" amounts of tinny and raucous DCC sound, ready-made roadways crammed with traffic, and an overload of unconvincing cameos.

Edited April 5 by gr.king

[john new]

On 01/04/2024 at 12:16, Chris M said:

Did you know it gets difficult to hire a van when you are over 70? That's what we found at Warley. Apologies for letting York down on this one.

Enterprise, one of the bigger van hire suppliers, do not have an age 70 cut off.  I have checked that formally with them as I am now over 70 and part of our AA Relay cover includes 3-days of car hire if needed. There is one of their rental sites close enough to our home base to make a hire from them practical. They also have better hire time options too than some of their competitors. No connection with them other than as a satisfied previous, and possibly future, customer.

[Porcy Mane]

42 minutes ago, gr.king said:

I was very pleased that there were a good number of traditional, steam-era, continuous-run layouts

 

I reckon it's an age thing.   🙂

[john new]

On 31/03/2024 at 23:56, richierich said:

Thought the show was ok. But for my modelling period BR sector period mid 80 to privatisation didn’t see a layout that represented this increasingly poplar era, which was a bit a disappointment. 

Just an observation posting as myself so please don't read this as an official show post. Do you not find excellent modelling, irrespective of period, company being modelled and/or the scale it is modelled in inspiring? As @johndon posted above Sherton Abbas isn't my choice of scale, era, gauge or company represented but it was definitely worth seeing.

 

Just flicking through the Show Guide rather than relying on memory:-

• Stand 73 Hillport Goods (Blue diesels)
• Stand 75 Kensington Olympia (Blue diesels)
• Stand 78 Victoria (? era but IIRC was post steam)
• Stand 79 Kyle of Macallan (A bit earlier than you specify but also post-steam)
• Stand 80 Bluish (Circa 1980 blue era so also post-steam)
• Stand 105 Bristol Avon Bridge (Blue diesels)
• Stand 115 Effingham Street (Blue diesels)

I think we had circa 40 layouts so the 8 above are 1/5th of the total with Deadmans Lane, Back 'ut Shed, Oil Drum Lane and Queen's Road Depot  all set in the nearer to, or actual, contentempory era. That is 12, or roughly a quarter set in the post steam era as were also some of the N G and non-UK based layouts.  

 

There is just no pleasing some folks.

 

Edited April 4 by john new
Attributed the semi-quote

[john new]

On 01/04/2024 at 07:36, TEAMYAKIMA said:

 

I have absolutely no comment to make on this subject whatsoever other than, due to the vagaries of the English language, that sentence could be interpreted in two  completely opposite ways.

 

1. There was a lack of general traders and (on the other hand there were) more specialist stands

 

2. There was a lack of general traders and (also there was a lack of) more specialist stands

A definite (1) and intended.

[woodenhead]

You can never please everybody, but as long as your numbers stack up in terms of paying visitors each year then clearly the chosen path for York each year is the correct one.

 

I certainly look forward to it each year and plan to be available to go on Easter Sunday each year, I remember missing a couple due to being on holiday abroad and I was most upset!

 

 

[ELTEL]

On 31/03/2024 at 23:56, richierich said:

Thought the show was ok. But for my modelling period BR sector period mid 80 to privatisation didn’t see a layout that represented this increasingly poplar era, which was a bit a disappointment. 

My layout Oil Drum Lane a DRS depot was at the York Exhibition over the Easter weekend which had various stock from 1992 to the arrival of the Class 68

 

Terry 

[MarkC]

2 hours ago, john new said:

A definite (1) and intended.

There are plenty of shows where both 'box shifters' and traders of second-hand stock can seem to outnumber layouts; York is one that to me has always bucked that trend. Long may it continue to do so 👍

 

Mark

[Bri.dolan]

Thanks to threads like this one and good advertising by the York team , knew what was going to be exhibited before I went ,so knew if my hobby needs would be met before planning a visit 

 

regards 

 

 

Brian 

[hmrspaul]

On 04/04/2024 at 15:25, john new said:

Just an observation posting as myself so please don't read this as an official show post. Do you not find excellent modelling, irrespective of period, company being modelled and/or the scale it is modelled in inspiring? As @johndon posted above Sherton Abbas isn't my choice of scale, era, gauge or company represented but it was definitely worth seeing.

 

Just flicking through the Show Guide rather than relying on memory:-

• Stand 73 Hillport Goods (Blue diesels)
• Stand 75 Kensington Olympia (Blue diesels)
• Stand 78 Victoria (? era but IIRC was post steam)
• Stand 79 Kyle of Macallan (A bit earlier than you specify but also post-steam)
• Stand 80 Bluish (Circa 1980 blue era so also post-steam)
• Stand 105 Bristol Avon Bridge (Blue diesels)
• Stand 115 Effingham Street (Blue diesels)

I think we had circa 40 layouts so the 8 above are 1/5th of the total with Deadmans Lane, Back 'ut Shed, Oil Drum Lane and Queen's Road Depot  all set in the nearer to, or actual, contentempory era. That is 12, or roughly a quarter set in the post steam era as were also some of the N G and non-UK based layouts.  

 

There is just no pleasing some folks.

 

John

 

The problem for your planning team is that the post steam era is now 55+ years. Many of us have lived through it and know that it is not a single era. The original poster, not unreasonably, mentioned the late 1980s Sectorisation pre privatisation period was missing from the show - and your list proves this. Personally, I also like that period; the triple grey livery, large ownership plaques on locos, actually painting stations and signing many depots all make for an attractive and special time in railway history.

 

Privatisation quickly swept much of it away, but it was an interesting era. It is surprising it apparently is a less popular modelling period. 

 

Paul 

https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/sector

 

Paul

Edited April 5 by hmrspaul

[john new]

1 hour ago, hmrspaul said:

John

 

The problem for your planning team is that the post steam era is now 55+ years. Many of us have lived through it and know that it is not a single era. The original poster, not unreasonably, mentioned the late 1980s Sectorisation pre privatisation period was missing from the show - and your list proves this. Personally, I also like that period; the triple grey livery, large ownership plaques on locos, actually painting stations and signing many depots all make for an attracive and special time in railway history.

 

Privatisation quickly swept much of it away, but it was an interesting era. It is surprising it apparently is a less popular modelling period. 

 

Paul 

https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/sector

 

Paul

I don’t disagree Paul but I read the original post as if I had put a ‘grumpy old f**t’ persona  on and started complaining that South Pelaw was set in the BR period and not LNER or any of the earlier periods. IF someone has a layout covering that era that is good enough then offer it to us for a future booking.