delticfan Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 Looks good to me I would,save your money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaGrange Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Do the Lima/Hornby 73's have the roofs modelled 'correctly'. The cab roofs of real 73's are fibreglass and can sag over time... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ruggedpeak Posted August 20, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 20, 2015 (edited) I did wonder about upgrading my Hornby 73s. however with the addition of lights they scrub up pretty well so I think I'll stick to them. 73138a by robfrowen, on Flickr 73138b by robfrowen, on Flickr You Sir have inspired me to have a go at that on the Hornby 73 I have sitting in a box PS you wouldn't like to do an idiot's guide as to how you did would you? Edited August 20, 2015 by ruggedpeak 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold robf Posted August 21, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 21, 2015 You Sir have inspired me to have a go at that on the Hornby 73 I have sitting in a box PS you wouldn't like to do an idiot's guide as to how you did would you? I wish I could but I'm not that clever! Someone else did it for me along with many other non light fitted locos. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shunny Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 I see in the latest Rail Express that there have been livery issues and these are now expected towards the end of the year now. At least it is good news that they are listening to the feedback and taking steps to correct livery faults before sending these out to the shops. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Got a bit bored of the typical British weather, so took a train to Eastleigh to catch a few freight services.Stabled in the sidings, were 2 GBRF 73/1's...which made for an interesting comparison. The 73's in question are: 73136 "Mhairi": and 73107 "Tracy": Firstly, there was the positioning of the Class Specification details on the cab side. On 73136, this is situated reasonably lowdown on the cab-side, with it's centre-line inline with the bottom edge of the cab door: Whereas, on 73107, this is roughly centre on the cab side panel: Secondly, the positioning of the loco number on the bodyside. 73136's number appears higher, and further to the left than that of 73107. Also, 73107's appears a paler shade of Yellow. Lastly, the GBRailfreight logo on the cabsides. Again, 73136's appears higher up, albeit marginally, than 73107's: There was also a few discrepancies between the two in terms of Frame & Bogie painting schemes. With a few parts differing in colour. Thought I'd post this, as it raised a question with me. With the various minor differences between members of the GBRF fleet of 73's, I wonder how accurate the forthcoming Dapol 73 is?As for dimples in the roof...73136: 73107: Hope this helps.Regards, Matt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted August 26, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 26, 2015 As for dimples in the roof... 73136: S2060012 - 1.jpg 73107: S2060017 - 1.jpg Hope this helps. Regards, Matt One with a cab mounted aerial, The other without. As always, particularly when modelling current stuff - work from photos. The above are most useful. Cheers, Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
159220 Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 Further livery samples have been released, this time the Olivia Trains limited editions. Now that is a cracking model! http://www.oliviastrains.com/trains/model-trains/Dapol-locomotives/Dapol-class-73-oo-gauge-locomotives/ 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempfix Rich Papper Posted September 9, 2015 Tempfix Share Posted September 9, 2015 Limited edition Pullman liveries have appeared on the Gaugemaster site. Rich Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold roundhouse Posted September 9, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 9, 2015 Limited edition Pullman liveries have appeared on the Gaugemaster site. Rich Yes, had the email from them - very tempted to order one but would it be Alex or Argus is the difficult choice Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
159220 Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Limited edition Pullman liveries have appeared on the Gaugemaster site. Rich Very nice looking livery! I think it has well been worth the wait for these Dapol 73s and anyone who rather have their lima might be secretly buying one of these! Out for end of November I read.... 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaneofFife Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 think some have been put back due to livery errors. at least Dapol have not stuck their head in the sand and are addressing them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark walker Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 Very nice looking livery! I think it has well been worth the wait for these Dapol 73s and anyone who rather have their lima might be secretly buying one of these! Out for end of November I read.... The roof on class 73 should be white not grey. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frobisher Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 The roof on class 73 should be white not grey. A quick search of images of 73 101 shows her with white or grey roof (and it's not just dirty...) at various points in her life. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted September 12, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 12, 2015 (edited) A quick search of images of 73 101 shows her with white or grey roof (and it's not just dirty...) at various points in her life. Certainly more (dirty) white than grey in this 2013 pic A quick check seems to show earlier pics with grey roof and later with white. More quick digging and the grey roof seems to tally with the MU jumpers being painted yellow. (But I can't find one without the roof aerial) Looks like a bit of "modelling" may be needed........................ Cheers, Mick Edited September 12, 2015 by newbryford 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John M Upton Posted September 13, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 13, 2015 It was painted in Pullman colours twice, the roof colour was different (white/grey) on the two applications. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southernman46 Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Just to provoke some thought, from the top - the ex-Lima, Hornby and Dapol versions.That Lima moulding is still pretty good for its age (OK those buffers ) - way back in 1981 ?? - seem to remember buying two from West Croydon models (?) - Eric (?) was the chap that ran it , opposite the bus station in between spotting RM's & DMS's ............... 35 years ago 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 I think the biggest issue with the Lima and Hornby models is the lack of relief on the underframe, but as some have proved, it can be sorted with some effort. The buffers are such an easy fix, they're not even worthy of a mention... if you can open the box, you can replace the buffers, surely? The moulded handrails don't bother me but a couple of minutes work with a scalpel and some wire can fix that. In essence, yes, the bodyframe moulding is still very good. I'm sure the Dapol release will be very very very good but frankly, it will need to be. For £100 and a little canny ebaying, I could have four Limas and a bag full of Craftsman detail parts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickL2008 Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 interesting comparison. The Lima model is much inferior with its pancake motor also, which although can be a decent runner with proper maintenance, is not as good as more modern motors. the detailing is also basic, and the moulded box lends some good detail but it lacks relief, very tempting with the 73101 model must admit!NL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gwiwer Posted September 13, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 13, 2015 The Olivias images show what might be a dimple looking more like a crease across the roof. However seen from a different angle that is proven to be an effect of the lighting. The Pullman one has no such feature. Of course the proof will be in the real things and the Eastleigh images of the GBRf pair show that no two are the same (surprise surprise) so we come back to our standard modelling position of "how accurately and upon which exact day in history do we want our model to represent?" The differences in number and logo "colours" on the Eastleigh pair can be ascribed to fading and cleaning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium amwells Posted September 14, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 14, 2015 I dropped Gaugemaster a line - they said that the roof colour is being amended to white on the Pullman versions. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR(S) Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 I dropped Gaugemaster a line - they said that the roof colour is being amended to white on the Pullman versions. I'd say this is for the best. Grey is an accurate colour but white looks more impressive and probably gives it a larger time span. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium ColinK Posted September 14, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 14, 2015 The Pullman livery would make a nice splash of colour on my layout. Could anyone please advise when it carried the Pullman livery? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 (edited) 73101 was first painted into Pullman livery in Feb 1988. Edit: ...on second thoughts, make that Sep 1991(ish). Info on the 'net is conflicting. Edited September 14, 2015 by Pete 75C 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
number6 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Oh dear, I'm having flashbacks to the original Heljan 33 and its dodgy roof shape.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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