N15class Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 I thought assembling things was part of modelling. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythocentric Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 Hornby's Stanier 2-6-4T's. I need a couple for my layout. They're listed as 'in stock' on their (Hornby's) website but all the shops I've tried tell me they can't get hold of them! Am I missing something here? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jol Wilkinson Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 Over-complicated kits. I mean ones where the final result could have been equalled with fewer fiddly bits of plastic. The Ratio Provender Store seems to have been designed by someone whose other passion was jigsaws - the more pieces the better. As it's not cheap this is silly. We buy such kits to save time in layout construction - not for the fun of assembly. I think Bachmann launched an RTP version for not very much more money, but this seems to be largely sold out. I wonder why? Ian, for some of us the "fun of assembly" can be more important than quickly building yet another layout. As for Bachmanns's RTP products rapidly selling out, isn't that an indication of the unwillingness/inability of lots of modellers to actually make anything? Jol 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Sheep Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 one thing that annoys me is my brother being intolerably good at small scale (3 link couplings in 2mm anyone?) the other thing that annoys me is lack of funds for my own modeling 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob S Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 (edited) pseudo-expert Yes, I agree on that one. That, and finding the lamp iron I dropped on the carpet half an hour ago, 10 seconds after finishing a replacement.... Oh and realising just to late, that flicking the soldering iron to get rid of excess solder is not a good idea when modelling in shorts...... Edited August 7, 2012 by Bob S Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted August 7, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 7, 2012 I thought assembling things was part of modelling. for some of us the "fun of assembly" can be more important than quickly building yet another layout. I didn't intend to stir up this old chestnut (mixed metaphor, anyone?). Of course seeing something come together in your own hands is gratifying - but a plastic kit that seems to have been designed so that every concrete beam & panel is reproduced as a single item, when walls with moulded detail would have been easier, seems to be gratuitously complicated and takes too long for the value of the result. I would suggest that if you are hooked on "fun of assembly" you are more likely to be scratchbuilding something of this sort - with a good chance of making an equivalent structure more quickly, actually! 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted August 7, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 7, 2012 As for Bachmanns's RTP products rapidly selling out, isn't that an indication of the unwillingness/inability of lots of modellers to actually make anything? No - it's a sign that the RTP/RTR stuff is pretty good (most of the time). Getting back on topic - annoying me at the moment is the compulsive Olympics stopping me from modelling (or slowing it down a lot) - although the "London 2012 feel good" factor means that I'll probably buy another loco to repaint after the dust settles................ Cheers, Mick 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
N15class Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 Another thing. Living in New Zealand, from a modelling point of view. Is terrible. You ought to try North Brazil, at least you can get parcels UK to NZ in just over a week, they take a month or more to get here. Then there is the 60 percent import duty. I could go on. But a look out the window to the Mango trees, you forget about those things, till the next time you need some parts for a model thats on the bench. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack P Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 ^ Thats A fair point my friend. I should stop complaining! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahame Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Doing searches on the internet for modelling information but the returned lists are of competely irrelevent and non-related suggestions. Then seeing something on that list that looks vaguely interesting and a few seconds later realising you've just wasted an hour of modelling time. G. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Grifone Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 It must have been on here before, but - that awful expression "H0/00 gauge/scale" - completely meaningless! The only thing the two scales share is the track gauge, wheel standards (sort of) and couplings (which usually aren't to scale anyway). (Triggered by a search for H0 road vehicles and finding them so described). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Doing searches on the internet for modelling information but the returned lists are of competely irrelevent and non-related suggestions. Then seeing something on that list that looks vaguely interesting and a few seconds later realising you've just wasted an hour of modelling time. G. To me, that's one of the enjoyable parts of doing any research. Just think how much more time you could waste if you were doing it in a records office or library. Nick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Q Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Internet dropouts (I've just had a couple) when I'm trying to read this threa 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefrk Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 At the risk of resurrecting this old chestnut thread, I would just like to point something out to people who model the modern railway. Modern retarding bufferstops that slide along the rails to slow a train to a stop do not get fitted at the end of the sidings they are fitted some 30/40/50 feet from the siding end and not all secondary sidings are so fitted either, Network rail still fit traditional bufferstops on non passenger lines. Recently been researching modern bufferstops and looked at a few model railways in the magazines and at exhibitions. Now some of the railways were very nice, in a modern sort of way but it's become a pet hate of mine to observe the incorrect fitting of modern retarding bufferstops.... Surely not all of them have been pushed to the end of the line by drivers misjudging the braking distance. End of rant. Dave Franks Just saying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted September 28, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 28, 2017 At the risk of resurrecting this old chestnut thread, I would just like to point something out to people who model the modern railway. Modern retarding bufferstops that slide along the rails to slow a train to a stop do not get fitted at the end of the sidings they are fitted some 30/40/50 feet from the siding end and not all secondary sidings are so fitted either, Network rail still fit traditional bufferstops on non passenger lines. Recently been researching modern bufferstops and looked at a few model railways in the magazines and at exhibitions. Now some of the railways were very nice, in a modern sort of way but it's become a pet hate of mine to observe the incorrect fitting of modern retarding bufferstops.... Surely not all of them have been pushed to the end of the line by drivers misjudging the braking distance. End of rant. Dave Franks Just saying. Like this at Leeds last week. Same day at York - but taking up less space. Cheers, Mick p.s. are you planning on doing the modern retarder type? 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick G Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 My friction buffer stops are right then. 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdw7300 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 (edited) Like this at Leeds last week. leedsbuffers.jpg Same day at York - but taking up less space. buffer3.jpg Cheers, Mick p.s. are you planning on doing the modern retarder type? Or these at Snowhill <edit - Moor Street!> last month Or Euston (no photo) Cheers Edited September 28, 2017 by sdw7300 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trog Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Or these at Snowhill last month 33E30920-D810-4562-B7EA-FFC599F11381.jpeg Cheers Must have been quite a misjudged approach to slide them right down to Moor Street. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trog Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Recently been researching modern bufferstops and looked at a few model railways in the magazines and at exhibitions. Now some of the railways were very nice, in a modern sort of way but it's become a pet hate of mine to observe the incorrect fitting of modern retarding bufferstops.... Surely not all of them have been pushed to the end of the line by drivers misjudging the braking distance. End of rant. Dave Franks Just saying. You can get what look like retarding buffers that bolt to the rails directly, and are not intended to slide, those could legitimately be at the end of the rails. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdw7300 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Must have been quite a misjudged approach to slide them right down to Moor Street. Very true! Well spotted 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted September 28, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 28, 2017 New to the thread, so ignore me if I'm going over ground probably already covered because I can't be bothered reading 7 pages, but models announced and then apparently not bothered with by their putative manufacturers for insane lengths of time. I'm looking at you, Bachmann 94xx. If you announce a model and it takes a while because of unforeseen production difficulties, I understand and sympathise even if I moan about it, but this has made no progress whatever in a year; extractus digitius or get out of the game, please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG John Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 (edited) New to the thread, so ignore me if I'm going over ground probably already covered because I can't be bothered reading 7 pages, but models announced and then apparently not bothered with by their putative manufacturers for insane lengths of time. I'm looking at you, Bachmann 94xx. If you announce a model and it takes a while because of unforeseen production difficulties, I understand and sympathise even if I moan about it, but this has made no progress whatever in a year; extractus digitius or get out of the game, please. What's buying (or in this case not being able to buy) a manufactured product got to do with MODELLING? PS: According to the last I heard from Hattons, my two Oxford GWR brake vans will arrive in the next two days, but Oxford's web site still shows them as "Future". I suspect my bank account is safe for now . Edited September 28, 2017 by BG John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted September 28, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 28, 2017 What's buying (or in this case not being able to buy) a manufactured product got to do with MODELLING? "Buying" is the new "modelling"........................ Cheers, Mick 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
40034_Nick Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 My friction buffer stops are right then. Where did you get those from? I like them !!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffP Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 Manufacturers rushing out one "Limited Edition" after another. Heljan...........I'm talking about you. We're not all made of money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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