RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted February 27, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 27, 2018 I wonder, though, could someone, some hypothetical person, remove said splashers and replace with flat footplating? A skilled modeller such as yourself would probably be able to do it but I won't. The man who resides the Naughty Step could also do it I'm sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mulgabill Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 A skilled modeller such as yourself would probably be able to do it but I won't. The man who resides the Naughty Step could also do it I'm sure. Might that earn him a reprieve? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 81C Posted February 27, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 27, 2018 Might that earn him a reprieve? NEVER Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Fatadder Posted February 27, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 27, 2018 A skilled modeller such as yourself would probably be able to do it but I won't. The man who resides the Naughty Step could also do it I'm sure.If Kernow Models are selling of preproduction or seconds at a bargain price at this years SWAG members day I will certainly be trying to get one to experiment on.... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgman Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 If Kernow Models are selling of preproduction or seconds at a bargain price at this years SWAG members day I will certainly be trying to get one to experiment on.... Maybe tempt 'em with a few pasties I believe its the currency of Kernow this year ! Celebrate good food c'mon Kool & The Gang Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted February 27, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 27, 2018 Splashers, three solutions: 1. Don't look. Close eyes, hide behind your hand or put a paper bag over the loco. 2. Modify. I'm sure I could locate some very heavy duty tools that would do a suitable job. 3. Alternative. I'm sure that those wonderful people at Kernow would happily sell you a different nice little loco that comes in a very similar box. Choose from three, all unlined black, loved working up to Wenford and back up to 1961. Hope this helps. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted February 27, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 27, 2018 Always one to think outside the box Chris. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted February 27, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 27, 2018 Why has that loco been fitted with sausages on the foot plate? Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgman Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 Splashers, three solutions: 1. Don't look. Close eyes, hide behind your hand or put a paper bag over the loco. 2. Modify. I'm sure I could locate some very heavy duty tools that would do a suitable job. 3. Alternative. I'm sure that those wonderful people at Kernow would happily sell you a different nice little loco that comes in a very similar box. Choose from three, all unlined black, loved working up to Wenford and back up to 1961. Hope this helps. or 4. Go O Gauge Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted February 27, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 27, 2018 I do feel sorry for Kernow. They have entrusted development/production of their models to a third party and they are flawed. This could have been a cracker but for this seemingly pointless error. Similar to issues with the other models from the same source.... 14xx.....overly complicated drive train. Gate stock....dimples instead of flush rivets. 1361.....splashers O2....sloppy con rods( overly complicated drive train) Very unfortunate. Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Tim Dubya Posted February 27, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 27, 2018 LSWR Ironclads......Mansell wheels Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted February 27, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 27, 2018 Hopefully its running qualities, not tested yet , will make up for the aberration and everyone can get off Kernow's back and move on. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted February 27, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 27, 2018 Hopefully its running qualities, not tested yet , will make up for the aberration and everyone can get off Kernow's back and move on. Option 2 is always open Rob... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianusa Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 Looks all right to me, but then I'm easily pleased! Its times like this that I envy 00 modellers! Brian. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianusa Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 Is the real B*gg*r Hall just outside the Welsh village of Llareggub? Near Pant y Soff. Brian. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted February 27, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 27, 2018 How about 7930 "Kneausefolk Hall"? A long term Southall loco I believe. How about Southall Hall Hall Hall Hall ? Is the real B*gg*r Hall just outside the Welsh village of Llareggub? Only when its running tender first. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted February 27, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 27, 2018 Mike Stationmaster gets a mention in the blurb on the leaflet/ destructions. There is also a parts list. He is indeed a man of many parts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted February 27, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 27, 2018 It's a lovely looking loco, Robin, to be sure. Are you going to brave the elements now that it's arrived? Out of interest and despite having trawled part-way through the main KMRC 1361 thread, I can't establish exactly when the splasher issue was first raised. Was it sometime in 2016? And now that they are there, what was the reason given for their inclusion on the model? Anyone know/remember please? Chris did give a full explanation which Andy Y posted in the relevant thread. Basically the factory's story is that they added them to get clearance for the wheel flanges and they are in reality more like small humps than splashers as they scale at less than 3 inches high. But we (Chris and I) did miss them when they crept into the CADs - we were being as careful as we could to make sure details for each individual engine were picked up as well as correcting details so we overlooked them, or rather didn't query them when they appeared. The factory also seemed to have a lot of trouble with version control of the CADs (which also happened with the gate stock I'm led to believe). CADs weren't numbered in a logical sequence so on one version you'd correct an error only to find it reappeared after the next lot of corrections had been made on the next version- rather frustrating and even more so for me as the Dassault (yes, them there French aeroplane folk) software for viewing the CADs didn't run at all well on a Mac. And while it's no excuse an interesting thing is that not even some of the regular hawkeyes on RMweb failed to notice the humps or mention them if they had noticed them. It's also a lot more difficult to comprehensively review CADs than you might think from looking at them when you see them posted on, say, RMweb as you are looking for a lot more. On the 1361s we were almost at the stage of tooling when I suddenly noticed the draincocks had been missed off (although I can just as easily blame Harold Holcroft as he'd left them off the original Swindon drawing, that he had signed off, which the factory were using for design. Similarly once you get caught up in production schedules things can go amiss - Chris gave the factory a list of codes for the shedplates before he asked me if they were the correct codes and when I checked them most had to be altered, just in time. I won't say any more about the relationship with 'the intermediary' except to say that for whatever reason Kernow now deal direct with the factory instead of via a certain 'post office' and I doubt that will change for any future commissions from that particular factory- but that is simply my take on things and not an official comment from Kernow. And of course various things are coming from elsewhere anyway. As far as removing the humps is concerned it might be worth a try but it will need some careful scalpel work as I suspect complete dismantling might be a bit of a task depending on how well the various parts are glued together. Chris has a selection of some early mouldings (which lack rivet detail) which he may well flog off at Taunton as he has done with some past bits and pieces or EPs etc He is indeed a man of many parts. However some spares would be useful 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted February 27, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 27, 2018 Best laid plans Mike... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted February 27, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 27, 2018 Why has that loco been fitted with sausages on the foot plate? Rob. So you're blaming CK then? Part of his cunning plan to infiltrate the great model locomotive design houses and insert sausages into the 3d modelling. He'd have gotten away with it too if it hadn't been for... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 81C Posted February 27, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 27, 2018 If the footplate plastic then I'm surprised most small tank loco's have cast one's these days I'd be intrested to see what they could pull before slipping with that gear train they have, still with a plastic footplate it at least gives anyone half a chance to carve those humps off, what a shame it was a well thought out model until the "Carbuncle Jinx" desended I do hope Chris can at least get a return on them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted February 28, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 28, 2018 Might that earn him a reprieve? Really? Really? Oh, please! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted February 28, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 28, 2018 Celebrate good food c'mon Kool & The Gang You're really hangin' wiv da kids this morning, aren't you, old chap? G. Roovy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted February 28, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 28, 2018 1. Don't look. Close eyes, hide behind your hand Tried that, the Mrs told me to count to 100 while she ran off and hid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted February 28, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 28, 2018 2. Modify. I'm sure I could locate some very heavy duty tools that would do a suitable job. Maybe, but such a pity that this is even having to be considered. From the position of the splashers, it could end up being quite a big job with no guarantee of retaining the factory finish once the hole had been filled and paint-matched. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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