RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted January 18, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 18, 2017 Been a bit vigorous while pinning a point down ? - just go slowly. Whitlingham Junction, 17 Jan 2017. 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted January 18, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 18, 2017 Before they put the slack on here it threw you all over the place at 60 They are taking their time in repairing it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted January 18, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 18, 2017 Looks like our track on Abbotswood after the flood! Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmsforever Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 How did that happen would have thought line closure needed ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMS2968 Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 (edited) Astley on the Liverpool & Manchester, looking east. Edited January 18, 2017 by LMS2968 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 (edited) These rail deformations are rarely deliberately modelled, perhaps because younger modellers don't realise how seriously deformed mainlines could be during the 1960s. I remember a trip up through the colliery areas of Notts and Yorkshire where the railroad was like a big dipper and the speed seriously hampered intentionally - and this was on mainline expresses ex London. Using Sundeala was good for layout surfaces as it soon reproduced the deformaties Paul Edited January 18, 2017 by hmrspaul 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted January 18, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 18, 2017 These rail deformations are rarely deliberately modelled, perhaps because younger modellers don't realise how seriously deformed mainlines could be during the 1960s. I remember a trip up through the colliery areas of Notts and Yorkshire where the railroad was like a big dipper and the speed seriously hampered intentionally - and this was on mainline expresses ex London. Using Sundeala was good for layout surfaces as it soon reproduced the deformaties Paul The Whitacre - Nuneaton line between Shustoke and Arley Tunnel was much the same with a 20 MPH restriction for many years. The luggage would fly from the racks if the driver hit the pointwork at the Birmingham end of Daw Mill Colliery a bit too quickly. When we straightened it up after the seam responsible was worked out we had to lift everythng, track, signals, cable route and location cases by up to four feet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titan Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 Astley on the Liverpool & Manchester, looking east. That will be in the vicinity of Chat Moss. The whole railway is basically a floating jelly. It is impossible to keep the top level, and also why the OLE is on portals - single masts would fall over very quickly! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted January 18, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 18, 2017 The area between Crewe and Sandbach was subject to subsidence through salt extraction for many years. The low lying fields at the sides of the railway were once up near to track level. The OHLE masts had special bases with long adjustable bolts and in some places two sets of bases which were alternately increased in height and the masts swapped over as they sank into the ground. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris M Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 Something thing you find when you build a garden railway is that even the ground in your back garden moves. Usually only slightly and slowly but over the years a nice even grade can turn quite uneven. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted January 18, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 18, 2017 The area between Crewe and Sandbach was subject to subsidence through salt extraction for many years. The low lying fields at the sides of the railway were once up near to track level. The OHLE masts had special bases with long adjustable bolts and in some places two sets of bases which were alternately increased in height and the masts swapped over as they sank into the ground. More info here http://hypocentral.com/blog/2009/02/22/ 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chameleon Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 The same applied to Thornton station in Fife. The coalmine offered to leave the coal seam under the station if the railway paid for it. Needless to say they refused so the coal was mined out and over the years, Thornton station gradually sank. Think the original platform surfaces ended up below rail height. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roythebus Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 Something thing you find when you build a garden railway is that even the ground in your back garden moves. Usually only slightly and slowly but over the years a nice even grade can turn quite uneven. The front of our house moves up and down according to the weather! A 15mm gap in the side wall of the front room is now a 4mm gap! the insurerers are watching with interest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugd1022 Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 The Whitacre - Nuneaton line between Shustoke and Arley Tunnel was much the same with a 20 MPH restriction for many years. The luggage would fly from the racks if the driver hit the pointwork at the Birmingham end of Daw Mill Colliery a bit too quickly. When we straightened it up after the seam responsible was worked out we had to lift everythng, track, signals, cable route and location cases by up to four feet. The old 30mph restriction on the sharp curve at Shustoke was well placed, with a fully laden stone train hitting it at 30mph was bad enough. The 30 slack has since been abolished but I still go round there with extra care these days! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted January 21, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 21, 2017 These rail deformations are rarely deliberately modelled, perhaps because younger modellers don't realise how seriously deformed mainlines could be during the 1960s. I remember a trip up through the colliery areas of Notts and Yorkshire where the railroad was like a big dipper and the speed seriously hampered intentionally - and this was on mainline expresses ex London. Using Sundeala was good for layout surfaces as it soon reproduced the deformaties Paul Sundeala. Now there's something I was quite happy to have forgotten; thank you for reminding me... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 Sundeala. Now there's something I was quite happy to have forgotten; thank you for reminding me... There is a similar product but thinner and better packed for use as underlay for laminated flooring! Mark Saunders Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted January 22, 2017 Author Share Posted January 22, 2017 I have shamelessly copied this Colin Lee photo from Facebook. I think many of us have had this happen with well used pointwork. 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold SHMD Posted January 22, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 22, 2017 One for "when the real thing looks like a model" thread I think! Kev. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chameleon Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 I once saw example you the same thing happen at craigentinny. The 47 followed the coaches back up to the wash plant. The front bogie went up the avoiding line but the rear bogie decided it wanted to get washed it pulled the airlines out and it got well and truly stuck. Didn't derail though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmsforever Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 Saw that happen at Aylesbury with a parcels van going north at the end of the platforms facing north ,this was when the GC was still open .Everything quietly sorted and no problems to the track. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FelixM Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 1961:Railways - Sierra Leone carriages in Gloucester Goods Yard by Roger Smith, auf Flickr 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted January 22, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 22, 2017 Wasn't there a diesel that was built by Birmingham RCW that was tested on BR in the 50s? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisf Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 Wasn't there a diesel that was built by Birmingham RCW that was tested on BR in the 50s? Lion - white with gold lining, D0260. Looked a bit like a 47. Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted January 22, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 22, 2017 Wasn't there a diesel that was built by Birmingham RCW that was tested on BR in the 50s? BRCW built 14 diesels for Australia's Commonwealth Railways. Although they were primarily for narrow gauge operation the order included four bogies for use on standard gauge lines. Using two of these bogies the first loco was tested on BR, including a special train from Snow Hill to Banbury on 25th February 1954. http://www.derbysulzers.com/australiabrcw.html 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted January 22, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 22, 2017 BRCW built 14 diesels for Australia's Commonwealth Railways. Although they were primarily for narrow gauge operation the order included four bogies for use on standard gauge lines. Using two of these bogies the first loco was tested on BR, including a special train from Snow Hill to Banbury on 25th February 1954. http://www.derbysulzers.com/australiabrcw.html Cheers,this was the one I was thinking about. Didn't realise that more than one had ran on BR Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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