RMweb Gold Market65 Posted July 4, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 4, 2014 Hi, Dave. Excellent photo's. I love that last one - so atmospheric with the sunrise. Please keep these photo's coming. All the best, Market65. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted July 5, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted July 5, 2014 Photos of a few places on the route of the Tour de France today. Skipton LMS 8F 48126 down goods Jan 67 J740 Cracoe Quarry Ruston and Hornsby 165DS 603 July 67 J952 Grassington BR Class 4 75021 in green July 67 J0943 Harrogate LMS Fairbairn 4MTT 42699 Harrogate to Kings X Aug 65 J338 There will probably be some more photos later on. David 27 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pH Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 Nice idea for a day's theme, David! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted July 5, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 5, 2014 Some more from Yorkshire now but not on the Tour de France route this time. I thought some of them were quite recent but have now realised that the most recent was taken taken 14 years ago. It seems like yesterday. Huddersfield Class 105 and 124 Liverpool to Hull Feb 72 C849 Huddersfield Class 101 Huddersfield to Wakefield Westgate Feb 72 C850 I know the destination says Leeds, but the announcer said Wakefield. Huddersfield 156497 Manchester Piccadilly to Scarborough 8th Sept 90 C15388 Huddersfield warehouse and wagon hoist 8th Sept 90 C15389 Huddersfield 150270 to Leeds 25th July 2000 C24986 David 19 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted July 5, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 5, 2014 Hi, Dave. What a great double set of photo's that you've posted today. The photo' of 8F 48126 is working a typical everyday goods train. The one at Grassington of BR standard 4 75021, is an excellent example of how engines were weathered near the end of steam. The Fairburn 2-6-4T at Harrogate, August, '65, has a Thompson SK at the rear. Now, at Huddersfield. The first photo' shows the first of five class 105's to be fitted with the two-character route indicator and three marker lights which were allocated new to Hull Botanic Gardens - the car numbers of this set being - DMBS 50374 and DTC 56129. Great photo' of the Huddersfield warehouse and wagon hoist - perfect for modelling! Please keep these exceptional photo's coming. All the best, Market65. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted July 6, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted July 6, 2014 A few more for this afternoon. The connection with the Tour de France route for today is that one loco spent some time at Haworth and the other is at the NRM in York. The photos were taken at Sewstern, on the ex British Steel lines at the end of the High Dyke branch which ran west from the northern end of Stoke Tunnel. Harlaxton was an ex iron ore quarries loco and spent some time at the Worth Valley before moving to Sewstern. Later it went to Sheringham. The other loco is Merchant Navy 35029 Ellerman Lines, seen here during sectioning for display at the NRM. After the iron ore quarries closed Dad was for a time manager of the industrial site at Sewstern, including the engineering shops (locally known as the giraffe house because of its height) which had a 30T travelling overhead crane, wheel lathe etc. He was also responsible for the railway system. Sewstern Andrew Barclay 0-6-0T Harlaxton in snow Dec 73 C1443 The giraffe house is to the left, the loco shed to the right. The next two photos were taken from the crane - and I don't have a good head for heights. Sewstern 35029 being sectioned for NRM York Oct 74 C1824 Sewstern Workshop 35029 Ellerman Lines front end being sectioned for NRM York Nov 74 C1825 Sewstern Workshop cylinder of 35029 Ellerman Lines being sectioned on a wheel lathe Nov 74 C1828 A few more photos to come later today. David 22 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted July 6, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted July 6, 2014 (edited) The theme for this evening is two famous engines in less familiar places. After returning from the USA Flying Scotsman was based at Market Overton for some time. It reached there by travelling along the High Dyke branch, then along the ex British Steel line to Buckminster Sidings before reversing along the isolated section of BR track (ex Saxby to Bourne line) to Paines sidings where it went on to more ex British Steel metals to reach Market Overton. High Dyke 4472 Flying Scotsman climbing away from the junction Oct 73 C1424 High Dyke junction is by the white posts in the lower left of the photo. The branch climbed away steeply from the junction to the west. By this time the High Dyke branch was closed (though still used for movements of locos and materials to and from BR) so the level crossing bariers had been removed. It was a very sharp curve, in BR days there was a 10mph speed limit. Skillington junction level crossing 4472 Flying Scotsman crossing the road Oct 73 C1430 Sewstern 4472 Flying Scotsman arriving from High Dyke Oct 73 J3457 The train consists of the Caledonian observation car, a Pullman car and the Great Eastern Railway saloon. On the left is an Avonside 0-4-0ST "Fred" Sewstern 4079 Pendennis Castle with NER saloon March 74 C1492 The train consits of the NER saloon and the "Crewe cab" which looks a bit like a small machinery wagon with a cab on top. I believe they were originally used for taking wages and small items around Crewe works. Whilst at Market Overton and Sewstern it was used for carrying small items. Mill Lane level crossing 4079 Pendennis Castle returning from Sewstern to Market Overton one evening March 74 C1498 This was an ungated crossing on the British Steel line, just before the steep hill up to Buckminster sidings. Once or twice trains were run in the dark which made the crossing operation interesting. David Edited for spelling and grammar. David Edited July 6, 2014 by DaveF 24 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmsforever Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 Always thought it a shame that Pendenis went to Australia those shots must be quite rare did not know that Flying Scotsman was based in this area thank you for posting them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted July 6, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 6, 2014 Hi, Dave. What a fascinating piece of history about Flying Scotsman and Pendennis Castle. This is the first I have come across about them being based in that area. Great photo's as ever. Please keep them coming. All the best, Market65. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted July 7, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 7, 2014 (edited) This evening some photos from Cambridge to London, featuring places the Tour de France passed through or near to today. Cambridge Class 105 Kings X to Cambridge and Classs 31s and 08 Sept 76 C3009 Great Chesterford Class 37 37056 up Cambridge to Liverpool Steet July 1977 C3383 Braintree 305515 arriving Sept 78 C4134 Chelmsford Class 309 Clacton to Liverpool St June 79 C4591 London Blackfriars Bridge Class 33 light engine 11th March 1978 C3708 David Edited July 7, 2014 by DaveF 18 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted July 7, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 7, 2014 Hi Dave A boring fact about C4591, the embankment the Class 309 is travelling on is made from the soil that once occupied the hole which is now the duck pond in the forground. Clive, who drives under the viaduct several times a day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold SHMD Posted July 7, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 7, 2014 Re C3383,It looks like 37 x56 (where x = 0 or 2) to me.The split head code should settle it.Kev. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 31A Posted July 7, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 7, 2014 Fascinating pictures as always Dave; C3009 in particular takes me back to my misspent youth! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted July 7, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 7, 2014 Re C3383, It looks like 37 x56 (where x = 0 or 2) to me. The split head code should settle it. Kev. Many thanks for pointing that out It is 37056, I simply typed the wrong number, my notes from the time say it is 56. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted July 7, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 7, 2014 Hi, Dave. Great photo's here. I like that one of 37056, it so well composed and shows a classic view of a train. Please keep the photo's coming. All the best, Market65. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmsforever Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Interesting photos of a line that has been ignored for far to long. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted July 8, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 8, 2014 (edited) I think the best title for this evening's offering is "Lesser known bits of North Kent". Hoo Junction 2HAP 6163 up pass June 75 C2089 Cliffe Brett Marine terminal bogie wagons 18th March 78 C3725 Allhallows station in the fog - now a caravan park Jan 76 C2596 Grain oil refinery BP 0-6-0 shunter, near old station Jan76 C2597 Swale Class 414 6135 Sheerness to Sittingbourne 25th July 78 C3917 I took this on the way to catch the ferry from Sheerness to Vlissingen to drive to Switzerland and France - I had a gite in Les Gets for a fortnight plus a week meandering about on the way there and back. David Edited to correct something. David Edited July 8, 2014 by DaveF 16 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 The photo of what appears to be 5 x 2-HAPs brings back personal memories of afternoons at Ashford in the 1970s. In those days there was a large car park by the cattle market which bordered the main line just to the north of the station. While my wife and her mother were busy shopping, I used to sit by the line and watch the railways goings-on. From about 3pm a succession of those units would leave the sidings at Ashford and head off to London for rush hour services. I used to feel sorry for some of the poor commuters who probably had to endure both journeys every day in a 2-HAP, whereas for most of the day the occasional traveller enjoyed slightly more luxury in a 4-CEP/BEP combo. Unfortunately, many of these units were withdrawn before I had a chance to see them all, but your photo has reminded of those days almost 40 years ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastwestdivide Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 I think the best title for this evening's offering is "Lesser known bits of North Kent". Lesser known?! I spent hours by that crossing at Hoo Junction. Those Brett wagons (introduced 1970) at Cliffe are still going strong, and still work to Cliffe. Starting to be a rival for the ICI bogie hoppers in terms of longevity on the same traffic? Here by the creek at Strood late 2013: 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted July 8, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 8, 2014 Hi, Dave. A good selection of photo's this evening. I particularly like the one at Hoo Junction, June '75, with the 2HAP's. A good 'everyday' view of a train working hard for its living. Please keep these photo's coming. All the best, Market65. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted July 9, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 9, 2014 (edited) Back to the ECML today - Newark northwards. Newark Class 40 (possibly) D286 Leeds to Kings X April 68 J1241 Muskham Class 47 up ex pass 3rd Aug 74 C1736 Muskham Class 55 up ex pass April 80 C5011 Crow Park 55002 The Kings Own YorkshireLight Infantry Kings X to Newcastle Aug 77 J5809 Normanton Lane LC, near Dukeries junc 25099 and Class 47 Kings X to Leeds Aug 77 J5807 David Edited July 9, 2014 by DaveF 17 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted July 9, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 9, 2014 Hi, Dave. Really good photo's of the ECML that you have posted today. Particularly intrigued by the last one of 25099 and a class 47 to Leeds, August, 1977. I'm wondering if it was a case of the 47 having some difficulties, or a positioning move for the 25? Also the first photo' of class 40 D206 to Kings X, April, 1968 is a great view for that era - green 40 and maroon Mk1's, not forgetting that good run of telegraph poles. Wonderful to see the class 55 Deltics, such an iconic class of locomotive. So, excellent photo's, and please keep them coming. All the best, Market65. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted July 9, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 9, 2014 (edited) Hi Dave I do not think the class 40 in J1241 is D206. The pilot batch, which D206 was one of, did not have the small hand rails on the nose. They did not have nose ladders, the loco in the photo is one of a few that had a handrail where the ladder had been. The number is either D286 or D296. It is not D266 as this had been fitted with a 4 figure roller blind headcode box by the date of the photo. D286 had the extra handrail https://www.flickr.com/photos/barkingbill/8441592102/in/photolist-dRXneq-imtSQ3-fh4YLZ-9yFxWa-aUx654-5V3K1x-4fvPW4-jQB352-5tn6mo-bDTrGw-aeKMWV-43ssR1-8eziNF-kcPfQd-j7P9rj-4emw9B-k7PR42-9vS8eq-9JJXaF-kST4Pd-aF7ow9-8Bwkqj-9uzJZm-bqBhHe-6Hp9hp-eQtk7-4Sfz1L-PUeVi-a9Hp5K-ckVEuf-d65At5-56YxWT-61miMp-4Yfr5t-7rcWk6-GUa7R-2LnH1-2mKTXV-2edqSN-obqJoX-4jqXaf-cMyN9G-TNiAs-gQnZJ-bmo2Ms-58EvLm-cZm3mY-aac9em-6cYsge-7PUAPm/ I could not find a photo of D296 but with its TOPS number 40 096 it does not have this hand rail. https://www.flickr.com/photos/15054378@N02/11483328265/in/photolist-iuK4qn-9FodYL-gJ1iJQ-cVVvLd-nPXeaM-7JZfzu-4g2er1-cRkdK1-8KfPP9-gct7bJ-eKfWU7-fp1JpU-fpsSjF-hZWKr-ekR75E-8x55sy-ifTKmk-e31tRB I think it is D286, please could someone else confirm this. D206, showing the lack of handrails. https://www.flickr.com/photos/david_christie/8210543057/in/photolist-dvxbpc-dDh5VQ-bdYVZz-ejjxkF-kavS3z-bwK8So-aCv3bk-8Z9cWt-apLYkb-b3LzRc-8xwWxP-jYZ7f6-kLgJzX-kFCo4r-9rjTFi-a6Pxqo-9T8cbS-bBxkMN-37njxv-dK2Knt-hWZxrN-4zSZVm-8rVzJ3--9fzqrq-9fwiq8-bF212L-boMaSR-bGW8R6-9fzqLC-ccmzD5-8Uw7JM-ahScro-9fLdR9-byRreV-byRrdP-8Z9cTD-dVyHQ2-jFDUWH-7sDtPt-7sDtK6-nz1J9N-tgJTZ-dU27ub-gBfoXv-g9SZ6a-kcLHxr-5ShBwU-87Limm-kSSnNk Edited to include photo link of D206 Edited July 9, 2014 by Clive Mortimore Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted July 9, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 9, 2014 (edited) Hi Dave I do not think the class 40 in J1241 is D206. The pilot batch, which D206 was one of, did not have the small hand rails on the nose. They did not have nose ladders, the loco in the photo is one of a few that had a handrail where the ladder had been. The number is either D286 or D296. It is not D266 as this had been fitted with a 4 figure roller blind headcode box by the date of the photo. Not sure if it is D206.png D286 had the extra handrail https://www.flickr.com/photos/barkingbill/8441592102/in/photolist-dRXneq-imtSQ3-fh4YLZ-9yFxWa-aUx654-5V3K1x-4fvPW4-jQB352-5tn6mo-bDTrGw-aeKMWV-43ssR1-8eziNF-kcPfQd-j7P9rj-4emw9B-k7PR42-9vS8eq-9JJXaF-kST4Pd-aF7ow9-8Bwkqj-9uzJZm-bqBhHe-6Hp9hp-eQtk7-4Sfz1L-PUeVi-a9Hp5K-ckVEuf-d65At5-56YxWT-61miMp-4Yfr5t-7rcWk6-GUa7R-2LnH1-2mKTXV-2edqSN-obqJoX-4jqXaf-cMyN9G-TNiAs-gQnZJ-bmo2Ms-58EvLm-cZm3mY-aac9em-6cYsge-7PUAPm/ I could not find a photo of D296 but with its TOPS number 40 096 it does not have this hand rail. https://www.flickr.com/photos/15054378@N02/11483328265/in/photolist-iuK4qn-9FodYL-gJ1iJQ-cVVvLd-nPXeaM-7JZfzu-4g2er1-cRkdK1-8KfPP9-gct7bJ-eKfWU7-fp1JpU-fpsSjF-hZWKr-ekR75E-8x55sy-ifTKmk-e31tRB I think it is D286, please could someone else confirm this. D206, showing the lack of handrails. https://www.flickr.com/photos/david_christie/8210543057/in/photolist-dvxbpc-dDh5VQ-bdYVZz-ejjxkF-kavS3z-bwK8So-aCv3bk-8Z9cWt-apLYkb-b3LzRc-8xwWxP-jYZ7f6-kLgJzX-kFCo4r-9rjTFi-a6Pxqo-9T8cbS-bBxkMN-37njxv-dK2Knt-hWZxrN-4zSZVm-8rVzJ3--9fzqrq-9fwiq8-bF212L-boMaSR-bGW8R6-9fzqLC-ccmzD5-8Uw7JM-ahScro-9fLdR9-byRreV-byRrdP-8Z9cTD-dVyHQ2-jFDUWH-7sDtPt-7sDtK6-nz1J9N-tgJTZ-dU27ub-gBfoXv-g9SZ6a-kcLHxr-5ShBwU-87Limm-kSSnNk Edited to include photo link of D206 Clive, Thanks very much for your work on this. I have increased the size of just the number in Photoshop (giving me an 80MB file size!), I am pretty well convinced that the second digit is 8, making it D286 as there are 2 vertical lines from top to bottom of the central digit. as well as three bars acros, top, centre and bottom. I did put the image in this post but have removed it as resizing to put it on here made it too blurry again! Edit again: 2 links to photos of D286 from other photographers. https://www.flickr.com/photos/barkingbill/8441592102/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/blue-diesels/8079542579/ David Edited July 9, 2014 by DaveF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheesysmith Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 That photo of the 25&47 is obviously a fault on the 47 whilst in service. Probably a speedo fault or broken windscreen. I say this because you can see the 47 is providing power/engine running because the radiator shutters are open. Also, that 31 in the essex photos isone of the original 31/0 pilot toffee apple batch due to the red circle mu on the front. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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