RMweb Gold Market65 Posted January 22, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 22, 2015 Hi, Dave. Such great ECML photo's tonight. A really classic shot of a 55 Deltic in C3448 at Peterborough, and what a delight in A3 Victor Wild, at Corby Glen, April, 1963. Yes, in a very grotty looking condition, but the A3's were on their way out by that time. The signal is quite a contrast! Please keep the photo's coming, All the best, Market65. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted January 23, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 23, 2015 That Deltic in C3448 may be 55015 Tulyar. I certainly recall seeing it in 1977 at Edinburgh on a school trip and that weathering above the cab windows looks very familiar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted January 23, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted January 23, 2015 (edited) Some photos from Ratcliffe on Soar and Hathern today. They are on the Midland Main Line between Nottingham and Loughborough. Some of these photos are not the everyday mundane trains. Ratcliffe on Soar Hawksworth coach as dynamometer car in chocolate and cream Dec 69 C183 The wagons just coming into the photo behind the dynamometer car were freightliner container wagons. Ratcliffe on Soar Class 25 D7511 up coal empties July 71 C666 I have no recollection at all of taking this photo. Hathern station site 45054 down coal Aug 78 C4109 Hathern Class 25 down test train Aug 78 C4110 Ratcliffe on Soar 3 Class 20s down le at -12degrees Jan 79 C4255 I'm not sure I'd go out in this weather any more. At the time I was driving a Citroen Dyane which at least had a starting handle which could be very useful in cold weather. The heater was very primitive! On the way to take the photo I passed several lorries with small fires burning underneath them as their diesel had frozen. Trains were a bit thin on the ground too - as I remember it BR were leaving a lot of engines running overnight as otherwise they wouldn't start in the morning. David Edited January 23, 2015 by DaveF 43 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieB Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 I'm not sure I'd go out in this weather any more. ! But we're glad you did on that occasion! Some wonderfully atmospheric shots, Dave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted January 23, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 23, 2015 I remember it BR were leaving a lot of engines running overnight as otherwise they wouldn't start in the morning. I was 'visiting' Eastfield Depot one winter afternoon around the late 70s and I (stupidly?) asked why all the loco's (even inside) were running (the place was blue with fumes). The answer was as quoted from Dave's post. The Inspection saloon and 25 another good modelling 'excuse'. Great pics; I had to put on my fleece. Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
talisman56 Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 (edited) A clean-ish two-tone green 'Rat' fully 5 years after the introduction of 'Corporate Blue'... but it has gained full yellow ends... ...and the 'Inspection Saloon' I fear is just a common-or-garden Research Department Mark 1 BSK... Edited January 23, 2015 by talisman56 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kazmierczak Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 (edited) Nice to see more East Midlands pictures David. It was quite difficult to get decent shots from the bridge where you took the x3 Class 20s and the GW Dyno Car, particularly in winter with the very low sun. Edited January 23, 2015 by Peter Kazmierczak 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted January 23, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 23, 2015 (edited) ...and the 'Inspection Saloon' I fear is just a common-or-garden Research Department Mark 1 BSK... It is indeed a BSK, but not quite common-or-garden. There's an exhaust on the roof, from an on-board diesel generator, so there'll be grilles in the sides somewhere for air/cooling. It looks suspiciously like ADB975397 Test Car 2 The grilles are on the other side. Cheers, Mick Edited January 23, 2015 by newbryford Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted January 23, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 23, 2015 Hi, Dave. More terrific photo's tonight. I particularly like that last one, a very snowy view from the infamous winter of '79, and two 20's as well. Please keep the photo's coming, All the best, Market65. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted January 24, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted January 24, 2015 The Great Central in Lincolnshire tonight with visits to Barton on Humber and New Holland Town at various dates. Note the changes at Barton on Humber - it's even more simplified now. Barton on Humber goods yard June 64 J135 Barton on Humber Class 114 June 64 J136 Barton on Humber Class 114 E56026 28Mar78 C3752 New Holland Town Class 114 pass Cleethorpes Barton 11Aug77 C3469 New Holland Town from the Pier March 78 J5964 David 39 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poor Old Bruce Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 the 'Inspection Saloon' I fear is just a common-or-garden Research Department Mark 1 BSK... It is indeed a BSK, but not quite common-or-garden. There's an exhaust on the roof, from an on-board diesel generator, so there'll be grilles in the sides somewhere for air/cooling. It looks suspiciously like ADB975397 Test Car 2 The grilles are on the other side. If you are right about it being Test Car 2, it would belong to the D of M&EE. Research, being posh, had 'Laboratory Coaches'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 I wonder what that ferry van was doing at Barton-on-Humber? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted January 24, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 24, 2015 I wonder what that ferry van was doing at Barton-on-Humber? Every time I've looked at the photo over the last 50 years I've wondered that! David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 31A Posted January 25, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 25, 2015 I wonder what that ferry van was doing at Barton-on-Humber? It seems to be painted green; I'm not sure what railway administration would have had ferry vans painted that colour although possibly Belgian wagons were at one time, although it may be just a trick of the light? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted January 25, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 25, 2015 It seems to be painted green; I'm not sure what railway administration would have had ferry vans painted that colour although possibly Belgian wagons were at one time, although it may be just a trick of the light? Perhaps, unknowingly, BOH was the UK's import centre for brussels sprouts?? Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted January 25, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 25, 2015 As the 12T van is COND, maybe the others are? Was there a scrap yard nearby? Despite living in 36E for just over 12 years now, I am ashamed to say I have yet to travel to Barton on Humber Station. I have been to the town to visit a Wildlife Centre (no jokes about Night Clubs and typical Barton Pubs chaps). It is, on a Saturday only, just possible to travel to Cleethorpes direct from Retford, then on to Barton On Humber and return the same way. However it takes the whole day!! An alternative is to take the bus from B on H to Hull and then Hull to Donny etc. but it is more expensive! I think I remember being told that the bus replaces the Ferry? P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 It seems to be painted green; I'm not sure what railway administration would have had ferry vans painted that colour although possibly Belgian wagons were at one time, although it may be just a trick of the light? I'm pretty certain it's very dirty brown; the only administration that used a green livery for vans (Austria or Switzerland?) only painted post office vehicles like this. It looks like one of the pre-War French vans, originally built for the PLM. A trawl through the various Barrowmere books (such as this one- http://www.barrowmoremrg.co.uk/BRBDocuments/Book_01_Issue.pdf) shows that there was always the possibility of ferry vehicles turning up in the most bizzare places; there was a list of restrictions in one of them that forbade using the Swansea Docks network without permission of the Dock Manager, and absolutely forbidding access to the Trimsaran branch... Not sure about the scrap-yard theory; the paperwork involved when a foreign vehicle couldn't be repatriated was apparently rather involved. I can't decide if the one definitely-condemned vehicle was a middle-aged GWR one, or a relatively young BR one; in any case, it seems an odd place to condemn a vehicle. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted January 25, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 25, 2015 Has anyone else picked up on the condemend GWR van it has a 9ft wheelbase but is branded XP. The GWR did have some vacuum braked 9 ft wheelbase vans but they should not be XP as it should have been applied only to vans with wheelbases 10 ft or over.........one rule for the railways and another for Swindon Puts on hard hat and retreats to bomb proof bunker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 Has anyone else picked up on the condemend GWR van it has a 9ft wheelbase but is branded XP. The GWR did have some vacuum braked 9 ft wheelbase vans but they should not be XP as it should have been applied only to vans with wheelbases 10 ft or over.........one rule for the railways and another for Swindon Puts on hard hat and retreats to bomb proof bunker. My eyesight must be failing with age, Clive; I hadn't noticed that! It would explain why it's condemned. I've seen other photos of the results of confused wagon painters, including a 16-tonner with XP branding. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 Brian has nailed the French van - 'Couvert a primeurs' built in 1935 for the PLM and then repeated by the SNCF. There's one in the NRM which has the lower vents - the one sbove either doesn't have them or they're covered over. It looks like SNCF brown to me - like Southern brown but with a slightly blue tint, if the paint I bought from a French supplier was accurate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted January 25, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 25, 2015 (edited) It seems to be painted green; I'm not sure what railway administration would have had ferry vans painted that colour although possibly Belgian wagons were at one time, although it may be just a trick of the light? Brian has nailed the French van - 'Couvert a primeurs' built in 1935 for the PLM and then repeated by the SNCF. There's one in the NRM which has the lower vents - the one sbove either doesn't have them or they're covered over. It looks like SNCF brown to me - like Southern brown but with a slightly blue tint, if the paint I bought from a French supplier was accurate. The apparent green tint is down to film aging - Agfa slide film does that. Usually I mange to remove it but failed this time - when I tried I got a pink tint instead and decided it wasn't worth spending more time on. It really was a brown colour, but not at all like BR bauxite. David. Edited to add a letter which was missing from tint. I'll let you guess what I'd typed! David Edited January 25, 2015 by DaveF 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted January 25, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 25, 2015 David. Edited to add a letter which was missing from tint. I'll let you guess what I'd typed! David http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Tit#mediaviewer/File:ParusCaeruleus.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
talisman56 Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Tit#mediaviewer/File:ParusCaeruleus.jpg I was thinking more like this one: http://www.birdlife.org/datazone/speciesfactsheet.php?id=32615 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted January 25, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted January 25, 2015 (edited) This afternoon I thought we'd have some much newer preserved railway photos, just for a change. A couple more photos than usual. This time we are at the Tanfield Railway, not far from Gateshead in September 2013 during the "Legends of Industry" Gala. Visiting locos were Alfred and Judy. For those who don't know the railway the coaches really do have 4 wheels, inside they have wooden seats. The Tanfield Railway is one of the preserved railways quite close to where I live, I suspect some of you have never been. If you are in the north east it is always well worth a visit. I have a lot of photos of the railway taken on many visits since 1980, these will appear eventually Andrews House Tanfield Railway Alfred and Judy 8th September 2013 Andrews House Tanfield Railway No2 and Cochrane Causey ArchTanfield Railway Armstrong Whitworth No2 8th Sept 2013 Causey ArchTanfield Railway Pemanent Way gang 8th Sept 2013 Causey ArchTanfield Railway Twizell 8th Sept 2013 Resting Fireman Tanfield Railway Marley Hill 8th Sept 2013 Tanfield Railway Marley Hill 49 in shed 8th Sept 2013 In case anyone wonders visitors are allowed in the shed and round the sidings when movements are not taking place in the immediate vicinty. Edited to add a sentence David Edited January 25, 2015 by DaveF 25 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNERGE Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 Causey ArchTanfield Railway Pemanent Way gang 8th Sept 2013.jpg Causey ArchTanfield Railway Pemanent Way gang 8th Sept 2013 Just a hunch. Shouldn't that go under the rails? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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