R Marshall Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 This morning I spent a short time at Ulgham Lane crossing and Longhirst, both north of Morpeth on the ECML. Ulgham Lane crossing 66716 down l e 14th Jan 2015.jpg Ulgham Lane crossing 66716 down l e 14th Jan 2015 DSC_5081 Ulgham Lane crossing 91 up 14th Jan 2015 DSC_5084.jpg Ulgham Lane crossing 91 up 14th Jan 2015 DSC_5084 Ulgham Lane crossing 221 up 14th Jan 2015 DSC_5086.jpg Ulgham Lane crossing 221 up 14th Jan 2015 DSC_5086 Ulgham Lane crossing 43315 up 14th Jan 2015 DSC_5087.jpg Ulgham Lane crossing 43315 up 14th Jan 2015 DSC_5087 Longhirst Class 221 down in snow shower 14th Jan 2015 DSC_5093.jpg Longhirst Class 221 down in snow shower 14th Jan 2015 DSC_5093 Longhirst 66230 up freight 14th Jan 2015 DSC_5099.jpg Longhirst 66230 up freight 14th Jan 2015 DSC_5099 Longhirst 66230 up freight 14th Jan 2015DSC_5100.jpg Longhirst 66230 up freight 14th Jan 2015 DSC_5100 A mix of bogie and 4 wheel wagons. David I love that 66 in EWS livery. And I don't do modern image! Regards, Roy Marshall Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium uax6 Posted January 14, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 14, 2015 Interesting shots of a long gone aspect of railway working - ferries. When did these pass into history? I can just about remember the Windermere steamers with the arrows of indesicion on them in what must have been the early '80's. I bet the railway land at Tilbury is now either yuppy flats or a giant Tescos...... Andy g Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Our educational cruise in 1967, which started from Immingham (illustrated much earlier) finished at Tilbury. So these photos of Riverside station illustrate where I was almost 50 years ago. We caught the special train for Lincolnshire which reached the ECML via the curve from the NLL at Finsbury Park, and most of our parents were lined up at Grantham to welcome their little terrors back after almost a fortnight away. A strengthened DMU formation was in the bay for connections to Sleaford and Boston, and other parents were waiting there. This was a quiet Sunday afternoon, but unfortunately the driver had other ideas and raced through the station at 70mph, with hundreds looking out through the Mk1 windows thinking "that looked like Grantham, shouldn't we have stopped there?". There followed a sudden brake application and we stopped somewhere near Peascliff. Initially we were told that we would be reversing back into the station, but apparently that was vetoed. Off we went again and stopped at Newark where we were all told to get off and cross the footbridge to the up platform, and await the next southbound train which would be stopped specially. Now you might think that I am making this up, but the next up train just happened to be the Sunday version of the Flying Scotsman and after a while a Deltic came into view and stopped. The platform was full with 300 (approx) schoolkids, unlike the 1st class carriages which stopped by where I was standing. We all piled in and filled the train, much to the obvious annoyance of the upmarket passengers who had not only had a station stop added that should not be there, but had their quiet and restful first class experience ruined by us and our large amounts of luggage. Then to compound their unusual experience, the Scotsman stopped again at Grantham, where we all departed. I wonder how many claims for refunds were received by BRB that following week? 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mullie Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Interesting shots of a long gone aspect of railway working - ferries. When did these pass into history? I can just about remember the Windermere steamers with the arrows of indesicion on them in what must have been the early '80's. I bet the railway land at Tilbury is now either yuppy flats or a giant Tescos...... Andy g I lived in Grays from 1995-2004 and still go back to the area occasionally. This area was not ripe for any 'yuppification' and although Riverside station closed I believe much of the track was used for freight, a cruise terminal opened, the road layout was modified and some indistrial units erected. Not sure what is happening currently. We lived at the top of the first hill beyond the marshy land Tilbury was built on and had a fantastic view of the shipping coming up river to the port. I can also remember going into Riverside station when it was still open and being the only one there, had a similar experience at Broad Street. I used the ferry to go to a large railway exhibition that was held in Gravesend for a few years with my father around 1978 and as a family we used to make an annual trip to watch the ships, go to the fort and have an ice cream. Part of my family is from nearby Horndon on the Hill and I had family spread all over this area. As you can tell these photos brought back lots of memories. Fantastic as ever! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastwestdivide Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 (edited) Interesting shots of a long gone aspect of railway working - ferries. When did these pass into history? I can just about remember the Windermere steamers with the arrows of indesicion on them in what must have been the early '80's. I bet the railway land at Tilbury is now either yuppy flats or a giant Tescos...... Andy g There's still a Gravesend-Tilbury ferry, subsidised by the local councils, https://www.thurrock.gov.uk/ferry-services/tilbury-to-gravesend-ferry-service And the Riverside station is now a cruise terminal. Here's a 2011 shot from the Gravesend side of the river, with the station and its clock tower visible in the centre. Doesn't look very yuppified to me! Edited January 14, 2015 by eastwestdivide 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted January 14, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 14, 2015 Hi, Dave. Have been away for a day, and have come back to more excellent photo's. I especially like those of Kyle Of Lochalsh and all the wonderful Scottish scenery. Today, the photo's of Tilbury Riverside are great. That last one is historical for many reasons, for it speaks of the ordinary things that were to be taken for granted all too easily back then. It is good to see the ferries as well. Please keep the photo's coming, All the best, Market65. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffP Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 That last pic looks like a painting, incredible composition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
45059 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Nice to see a picture of the Waverley from the 1970s in C3832. She's still going strong today and has steamed out of Harwich on occasion during the past few years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted January 15, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted January 15, 2015 (edited) Some more from the Settle and Carlisle this evening between Stainforth and Ribblehead. The weather is often wet..... Stainforth Class 25 D7571 down goods Dec 67 J1190 Helwith Bridge BR 9F 92076 up goods Dec 66 J713 Horton LMS 8F 48157 with snow plough up pick up goods April 67 J0863 Ribblehead Class 45 Nottingham to Glasgow 25th March 78 C3733 Ribblehead LMS 8F up mineral Aug 65 J252 From a half frame slide. David Edited January 15, 2015 by DaveF 40 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted January 15, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 15, 2015 Hi Dave. The Sulzer 2 will be D7571. Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
synthnut Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 That shot of D7517, I feel David is sneaking in model shots again! The depth of field and lighting gives it away, sorry. Nice try... TTFN, Ben PS, love the thread, it's a roller coaster of emotions though, an inspirational collection! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted January 15, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 15, 2015 Hi, Dave. Some really classic photo's of the Settle and Carlisle line tonight. I really like J713 at Helwith Bridge. It is so atmospheric with the 9F, 92076, pounding through the pouring rain, and steam everywhere! That last photo' is a real classic of Ribblehead viaduct, with an 8F pounding over it. Please keep the photo's coming, All the best, Market65. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted January 15, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 15, 2015 Hi Dave. The Sulzer 2 will be D7571. Mike. Mike, Many thanks. I've amended the caption and altered Dad's notes as well. I think it's one where he took the number off the slide. david Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 96701 Posted January 16, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 16, 2015 Shot J713 of the 9F is just beautiful. The way that your eye is drawn to the hill in the background by the silver sky and then round to the loco through the steam from the valves is just superb. Thank you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted January 16, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 16, 2015 Hi Dave. The Sulzer 2 will be D7571. Mike. I disagree - enlarging the photo it looks more like D7577 to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaz Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 This evening we'll have a few photos around Tilbury. A couple more than usual as there aren't that many trains in these photos. ea Tilbury Riverside 302245 May 80 J6912.jpg Tilbury Riverside 302245 May 80 J6912 ea Tilbury Riverside ferry Catherine April 79 C4417.jpg Tilbury Riverside ferry Catherine April 79 C4417 ea Tilbury Riverside Ferry Edith leaving for Gravesend May 77 C2737.jpg Tilbury Riverside Ferry Edith leaving for Gravesend May 77 C2737 ea Tilbury Riverside from Gravesend 18 Mar 78 C3723.jpg Tilbury Riverside from Gravesend 18 Mar 78 C3723 ea Tilbury Riverside May 80 J6911.jpg Tilbury Riverside May 80 J6911 ea Tilbury Riverside PS Waverley evening 4 May 78 C3832.jpg Tilbury Riverside PS Waverley evening 4 May 78 C3832 ea View west to Tilbury Riverside from Fort Road Dec 76 C3128.jpg View west to Tilbury Riverside from Fort Road Dec 76 C3128 David I especially like the final picture David. Nice to see someone with the eye (and imagination) to record just an ordinary everyday scene. I agree this picture would make a fantastic background scene. I wonder if you should consider going through the photographs and checking out ones like this and the landscapes which might have a commercial potential. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaz Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 (edited) I particularly like the water scenes....they are fantastic reference. hope you don't mind me adding this one, but you reference pictures will be very helpful when i do an update here to bed the boat in better 3918 Edited January 16, 2015 by Jaz 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leander Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 J0863 The 8F is on a Class F freight (Express freight, ballast or empty train, unfitted) as shown by the two lamps on the smokebox top position and over the left front buffer (looking from the cab). Had it been a 'pick-up goods', there would be one lamp displayed over the left front buffer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted January 16, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 16, 2015 I disagree - enlarging the photo it looks more like D7577 to me. Many thanks for the disagree tag, you could just have said. Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted January 16, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 16, 2015 (edited) J0863 The 8F is on a Class F freight (Express freight, ballast or empty train, unfitted) as shown by the two lamps on the smokebox top position and over the left front buffer (looking from the cab). Had it been a 'pick-up goods', there would be one lamp displayed over the left front buffer. Normally I would agree with you but the train stopped, the loco uncoupled and proceeded to pick up some wagons from the up sidings, added them to the train and then proceeded southwards. David Edited as I misspelt my own name. Edited January 16, 2015 by DaveF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted January 16, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 16, 2015 (edited) Many thanks for the disagree tag, you could just have said. Mike. I was just going to remove the tag and let this pass but since someone chose to agree with you... I did it for a reason, namely if someone was reading the thread and reached your post they may have thought your suggestion of D7571 was the end of the matter and not have realized it wasn't so clear cut because they did not read my post where I suggested D7577. By commenting I did have the courtesy to explain why I disagreed, which many others don't. Edited January 16, 2015 by brushman47544 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted January 16, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 16, 2015 Hi Dave. The Sulzer 2 will be D7571. Mike. I disagree - enlarging the photo it looks more like D7577 to me. When I enlarge the original scan I would say D7571, as the last digit does appear to be straight, not shaped as the first and third digit. When I look at the image as it appears on RMWeb I think I would say it is either 1 or 7 at the end of the number. Obviously the software used to display the image, and the file size can make things look different - the file size on RMWeb is a lot smaller than my original file. Also as far as I know D7571 was allocated to Leeds Holbeck wheras D7577 was allocated to the Manchester area. So I think D7571 is the more likely number. It is often very hard to read numbers off images - I've been trying for many years when I have forgotten to make a note when I take the photo. Some modern stock with tiny numbers is a nightmare to identify! David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted January 16, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted January 16, 2015 Some from Paddington in July 1988 this evening. I was spending the day in London before flying to Zurich the next morning for a holiday looking at Swiss railways. Paddington 47637 Springburn 27th July 88 C9589 Paddington Class 121 55031 up27th July 88 C9591 Paddington 50009 Conqueror 27th July 88 C9594 Paddington LT 5714 to Barking 27th July 88 C9595 Paddington 50033 Glorious parcels 27th July 88 C09600 David 30 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopardml2341 Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Just 'tuned in' for tonight's episode - great as ever Dave, Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted January 16, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 16, 2015 Hi, Dave. Some great photo's of Paddington. I particularly like C9594 of 50 009 Conqueror, which is a good classic view of a class 50. Please keep the photo's coming, All the best, Market65. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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