RMweb Gold BoD Posted November 16, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 16, 2023 4 minutes ago, jwealleans said: How disappointing. It’s all kettles. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted November 16, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 16, 2023 58 minutes ago, BoD said: How disappointing. It’s all kettles. Didn't you see the Fell? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted November 17, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 17, 2023 @BoDThe sound fitted EE Type 4 and Brush Type 4 were "in reserve" but are used on Shap when it's exhibited.. Baz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BoD Posted November 17, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 17, 2023 I was thinking more along the lines of ‘sheesh, there’s even a kettle on the top level there’. Anyway, that goods train was just splendid. 2 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Chas Levin Posted November 17, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 17, 2023 On 12/11/2023 at 21:02, jwealleans said: The sign is a mockup on paper. I will make up some waterslide versions and stick them to plastikard panels this week. I thought this looked very nice in the photo above Jonathan, but seeing it on 'Hills of the North' it looks even better, really interesting and unusual looking item - fantastic! 2 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted November 20, 2023 Author Share Posted November 20, 2023 Preparing this year's display for Warley over the weekend. This year's theme is scratchbuilding, both the classic approach of cutting up plastic sheets and also using 3D print technology to produce what you want. I hope to be doing a bit of both. I'm on stand D35 this year. For regular visitors, we have been moved to the diagonally opposite corner of the hall, so ahead and slightly to the left as you come through the doors, then right down to the far end. Closer to the food, further from the gents. Swings and roundabouts...... My good friend and colleague Mr King can be found to my left on stand D33, while Mr. Nicholas is to our rear on stand D29. I see that in a change of subject, he's 'planing' layouts this year, so expect to see him behind a large pile of shavings and bring any awkward bits of wood with you for refinishing. More details here. 10 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted November 20, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 20, 2023 And me and Saint Enodoc are making things filthy on D42.. come along and have a go.. Baz 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted November 20, 2023 Author Share Posted November 20, 2023 Yes, I noticed we'd been kept well apart. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Sim Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 Would you like a proper coloured sulphate wagon to take along with you? 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted November 21, 2023 Author Share Posted November 21, 2023 (edited) No, thank you. I have already filled my display stand and that looks terribly dreary. It would be much nicer in an attractive shade of, say, brown? Edited November 21, 2023 by jwealleans 2 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drmditch Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 Re: Bogie Sulphate Wagon I have to say that your brown one does look very good. I agree that it should probably be grey. Is there any way this issue might be resolved? Is there an undiscovered source of colour photographs for Teesside? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
durham light infantry Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 18 minutes ago, drmditch said: Is there an undiscovered source of colour photographs for Teesside? From what I can remember Teesside didn't go colour until 1977. Places like Billingham took a little longer. 1 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted November 21, 2023 Author Share Posted November 21, 2023 (edited) .... and it's a good job we didn't have Smell-O-Vision in those days. I'm not aware of definitive evidence either way, but for what it's worth I put Jesse's scan of the Tatlow photograph through several of those online colourisers and it came back with a red/brown hue each time. Simply on that basis I'm leaving it alone. Does anyone have a recent issue of the kit and can say whether the instructions have been updated? Edited November 21, 2023 by jwealleans 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Bucoops Posted November 21, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 21, 2023 1 hour ago, durham light infantry said: From what I can remember Teesside didn't go colour until 1977. Places like Billingham took a little longer. This will never get old It might just change to ultra-colour one day? 3 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 I'm just thinking about taking a nap in a tree..... 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham T Posted November 21, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 21, 2023 Me too. Wake me up when things get better… 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Sim Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 7 hours ago, jwealleans said: .... and it's a good job we didn't have Smell-O-Vision in those days. I'm not aware of definitive evidence either way, but for what it's worth I put Jesse's scan of the Tatlow photograph through several of those online colourisers and it came back with a red/brown hue each time. Simply on that basis I'm leaving it alone. Does anyone have a recent issue of the kit and can say whether the instructions have been updated? Objection, hearsay. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 28 minutes ago, Jesse Sim said: Objection, hearsay. Sustained. Hearsay were a terrible band... This debate could rumble on forever, in such a form as which GWR wagons, if any, were painted black? 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted November 22, 2023 Author Share Posted November 22, 2023 7 hours ago, Jesse Sim said: Objection, hearsay. I'm no lawyer, but an objective test which could be repeated at will by anyone else can't be hearsay, surely? 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted November 22, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 22, 2023 28 minutes ago, jwealleans said: I'm no lawyer, but an objective test which could be repeated at will by anyone else can't be hearsay, surely? I'm not sure hearsay was quite the word they were looking for, Heresy, maybe? There have been a number of interesting threads on distinguishing red wagons and grey wagons in monochrome photos; a recent one is here: There's also a good discussion here, which I think refers back to previous debates: 4 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 57xx Posted November 22, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 22, 2023 There's also a thread somewhere that shows how bad AI is, with the purple MR wagon. Just heading out to work so will have to dig it out later unless someone else recalls it. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr.king Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 Are free, online, generic colourisers so thoroughly well developed that they will "know" that they are looking at a railway scene or item, know the period / area / company (and therefore know some of the certain or likely colours) and can they work out for themselves whether the image is a product of panchromatic or orthochromatic emulsion? I'd take a very great deal of convincing. 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
billbedford Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 2 hours ago, Compound2632 said: I'm not sure hearsay was quite the word they were looking for, Heresy, maybe? There have been a number of interesting threads on distinguishing red wagons and grey wagons in monochrome photos; a recent one is here: This one is obvious. The one on the left is red (or bauxite) because the body is darker than the roof, while the one on the right is grey with the body lighter than the roof. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BoD Posted November 22, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 22, 2023 Comparing greys has always been fraught with dangers. Remember the optical illusions from school or elsewhere? Cover the middle line of the upright block with your finger… 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 12 minutes ago, BoD said: Comparing greys has always been fraught with dangers. Remember the optical illusions from school or elsewhere? Cover the middle line of the upright block with your finger… I remember as a sixth former taking A level art we were set the task of replicating a black and white photograph in paint. A lot harder than you might think! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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