Results - The 00 Wishlist Poll 2022

[BMacdermott]

Hello everyone

 

Firstly, a Happy New Modelling Year to you all!😀

 

Please find the results attached.

 

Our aim is to be back in late 2023 with The Quirky Poll 2023 and follow that with The 00 Wishlist Poll 2024.

 

Very many thanks to the voters who submitted suggestions just as we asked - those people have already been advised that their suggestions are on the 2024 Agenda.

 

All the best

 

Brian (on behalf of The 00 Poll Team

1. Results - The 00 Wishlist Poll 2022 - By Category.pdf 2. Results - The 00 Wishlist Poll 2022 - Top-to-Bottom.pdf

[DutyDruid]

Well done and thanks Brian, it looks like I stumble into the results just as you posted them and I claim the first download!

 

Elliott

[phil gollin]

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Thanks very much  -  and a great way to while away a rather pointless bank holiday.

 

I can't see anything  wrong with any of the list from 186 and upwards (except no. 4 which has such limited opportunity for usage  -  but each to their own, who says I have any idea ?)

 

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Edited January 2, 2023 by phil gollin

[Bucoops]

Great, thank you all for your efforts :)

 

edit: looks like everything I voted for is either in the top 50 or high polling.

 

Go on manufacturers, get with the GE 🤪

Edited January 2, 2023 by Bucoops

[MarkSG]

Excellent. I'm pleased to see that my choices are almost all in the top 50. I'm particularly pleased to see that we all seem to want some milk tankers to current standards. That is a clear gap in the market, and a pretty obvious slam dunk for whichever manufacturer decides to go for them. It wouldn't surprise me at all to see one or more announced this year. And maybe I'll get my E4 sooner or later, as well!

 

On the other hand, I'm surprised but a little disappointed that RCH open wagons only made it into the middle of the poll. Maybe we're all just assuming that these will get done anyway, so we don't need to ask for them. And there are several in various ranges already, so maybe people thik we don't need them. But all the ones that do currently exist are beginning to look a little dated, especially alongside the excellent company rolling stock announced and produced recently by several manufacturers. It's time for the humble PO open wagon to get the same treatment.

[BMacdermott]

1 minute ago, MarkSG said:

Excellent. I'm pleased to see that my choices are almost all in the top 50. I'm particularly pleased to see that we all seem to want some milk tankers to current standards. That is a clear gap in the market, and a pretty obvious slam dunk for whichever manufacturer decides to go for them. It wouldn't surprise me at all to see one or more announced this year. And maybe I'll get my E4 sooner or later, as well!

 

Thanks MarkSG

 

We spent much time looking into how to list Milk Tank Wagons (and Milk Tank Trucks) this year. And we feel it paid dividends with six of the eight types at the top of the category.

 

Brian (on behalf of The 00 Poll Team)

[BMacdermott]

29 minutes ago, phil gollin said:

Thanks very much  -  and a great way to while away a rather pointless bank holiday.

I can't see anything  wrong with any of the list from 186 and upwards (except no. 4 which has such limited opportunity for usage  -  but each to their own, who says I have any idea ?)

 

Hello Phil

 

Indeed, we 'worked our socks off' to get the results out today as we felt many would like to browse today.

 

The S-160 has been in The Top 50 since 2013.

 

Brian (on behalf of The 00 Poll Team)

[DutyDruid]

6 minutes ago, BMacdermott said:

The S-160 has been in The Top 50 since 2013.

With the reboot of the Railway Children franchise last year and me with a wartime SR layout in build I'm hoping this could be the year...

Edited January 2, 2023 by DutyDruid
corrected grammar

[MarkSG]

43 minutes ago, phil gollin said:

I can't see anything  wrong with any of the list from 186 and upwards (except no. 4 which has such limited opportunity for usage  -  but each to their own, who says I have any idea ?)

 

Wartime layouts are something of a niche field, but they're probably one of the more popular niches, not least because they offer the opportunity for modelling something that's completely different to the typical model railway. But to do a wartime layout properly, you really do need some of the specialist motive power and rolling stock that was built or imported specifically for the task. And the S-160 is probably the biggest gap in that particular market.

 

Yes, it would be very much restricted to layouts actually modelling that era - unlike wagons such as warwells and Air Ministry tankers, or even the USA dock tanks, the S-160s didn't get repurposed after the war into general usage, at least not in the UK. So it doesn't have the multi-livery and multi-era options which would make it more attractive to manufacturers - any production run would be a one-off, there's no scope for releasing other variants later. But, still, I think it would sell enough to make that one run profitable.

Edited January 2, 2023 by MarkSG
Fix typo

[SHMD]

Thanks to all the team for all the "thinking" behind getting some sort of logic out of the last 150 years!

Also, a big thank you to Andy for giving his support to this.

 

With regards to the results, 2 of my choices are on the first page of the "top to bottom" listings, but I have to say, I could be tempted by a couple of other items on that page too.

 

 

Kev.

[AY Mod]

18 minutes ago, DutyDruid said:

I'm hoping this could be the year...

 

I think you could get lucky this year. It's different enough to have novelty appeal, after all many other locos sell even though we never see layouts suited to them. Me, I'll have one as I had a great footplate ride and was really impressed with it's performance.

[Oldddudders]

Surely this is all a labour of love - but precise and very tightly-disciplined hard labour, for which it seems almost 1700 of us were grateful, at least. Thankyou to the team and to Andy Y for making it happen. 

 

Some results baffle me, though. The LBSCR E2 0-6-0, already modelled indifferently by Trix and Hornby, polls many more votes than the far more interesting E3, the first series of Brighton radials. Has the relatively recent E4 consumed all the appetite for the radials? After all, the last of the series, E6, a powerful (4'6" drivers) freight loco, also polled very low.

 

Then there's top-polling for Bulleid's Tavern cars, hardly in widespread use compared to many in the list below it!

 

There truly is no accounting for taste!

[BMacdermott]

13 minutes ago, SHMD said:

Thanks to all the team for all the "thinking" behind getting some sort of logic out of the last 150 years!

Also, a big thank you to Andy for giving his support to this.

 

Hello Kev

 

Many thanks for the appreciation which we...well... appreciate!

 

Sorting it all out is hard work but 'in a nice way'.

 

When we compare The Poll content to how we first ran in 2012, it is clear to see how far we have come - and that is all down to teamwork within The 00 Poll Team; consistent support and constructive suggestions for many regular voters; and to Andy who always does 'the computerised bits' to such high standard and within time scales. 👍

 

We have already started work on 2024!🙂

 

Brian (on behalf of The 00 Poll Team)

['CHARD]

D49, 8F, Palvans and Prestwins, even the Class 100 DMU has made a half-decent showing; some great performances in the lists.

 

Thanks for your efforts getting this mega survey together, fellas!  Interesting reading.

[BMacdermott]

10 minutes ago, Oldddudders said:

Surely this is all a labour of love - but precise and very tightly-disciplined hard labour, for which it seems almost 1700 of us were grateful, at least. Thankyou to the team and to Andy Y for making it happen. 

 

Some results baffle me, though. The LBSCR E2 0-6-0, already modelled indifferently by Trix and Hornby, polls many more votes than the far more interesting E3, the first series of Brighton radials. Has the relatively recent E4 consumed all the appetite for the radials? After all, the last of the series, E6, a powerful (4'6" drivers) freight loco, also polled very low.

 

Then there's top-polling for Bulleid's Tavern cars, hardly in widespread use compared to many in the list below it!

 

There truly is no accounting for taste!

 

Hello Ian

 

We always have comments along these lines and it is really only a matter of speculation as to why - but The Poll Team goes by whether items stay relatively in positional context over the years.

 

The E2 and E3 have.

 

We have, in the past, listed The Tavern Cars individually and combined. When combined, they come higher up. When listed individually, the 1951 types are Middle Polling and the other two High Polling.

 

On the plus side, at least 14 items of the Top 50 are SR!🙂

 

Brian (on behalf of The 00 Poll Team)

[Dick Turpin]

40 minutes ago, AY Mod said:

...many other locos sell even though we never see layouts suited to them...

 

I think that over the last couple of years at least, that's something we have seen amply demonstated.

Edited January 2, 2023 by Dick Turpin

[drmditch]

Thanks to you and your team for all your hard work.

The polling is very interesting.

 

(Now I had better get on and build some locomotives before the Wishlist takes effect!)

[Steamport Southport]

50 minutes ago, MarkSG said:

 

Wartime layouts are something of a niche field, but they're probably one of the more popular niches, not least because they offer the opportunity for modelling something that's completely different to the typical model railway. But to do a wartime layout properly, you really do need some of the specialist motive power and rolling stock that was built or imported specifically for the task. And the S-160 is probably the biggest gap in that particular market.

 

Yes, it would be very much restricted to layouts actually modelling that era - unlike wagons such as warwells and Air Ministry tankers, or even the USA dock tanks, the S-160s didn't get repurposed after the war into general usage, at least not in the UK. So it doesn't have the multi-livery and multi-era options which would make it more attractive to manufacturers - any production run would be a one-off, there's no scope for releasing other variants later. But, still, I think it would sell enough to make that one run profitable.

 

You are looking at it from the purely wartime era.

 

There are about half a dozen currently in the UK in a various array of liveries, chances are many people who would buy one has been behind one or at least seen one.

 

And don't forget the one that did stay in the UK which was in LMR livery WD 93257 "Carl R Gray Jr".

 

http://www.railalbum.co.uk/steam-locomotives/usatc-s160-2.htm

 

 

Jason

[Dagworth]

Amazing to see electrics polling so high, I guess it's largely a symptom of pretty much everything else that would be in era already being done and only the sparks left. 

But please manufacturers take note and bless us with the PEP family of units

 

Andi

[Legend]

Brilliant . Thanks for putting it together and publishing results so quickly . I’m encouraged . A Glasgow Blue Train polling relatively highly at 160 and even my beloved Class 126 Ayrshire Swindon dmu getting to 121 .amazing . 

[Bucoops]

2 hours ago, MarkSG said:

 

Wartime layouts are something of a niche field, but they're probably one of the more popular niches, not least because they offer the opportunity for modelling something that's completely different to the typical model railway. But to do a wartime layout properly, you really do need some of the specialist motive power and rolling stock that was built or imported specifically for the task. And the S-160 is probably the biggest gap in that particular market.

 

Yes, it would be very much restricted to layouts actually modelling that era - unlike wagons such as warwells and Air Ministry tankers, or even the USA dock tanks, the S-160s didn't get repurposed after the war into general usage, at least not in the UK. So it doesn't have the multi-livery and multi-era options which would make it more attractive to manufacturers - any production run would be a one-off, there's no scope for releasing other variants later. But, still, I think it would sell enough to make that one run profitable.

 

You also get to paint pretty much everything black without lining so any mods are relatively straightforward!

[The Johnster]

Particularly happy to see both 59’ panelled Churchward auto trailers and the Collett all-steel trailers making it into the high-polling category; I may get my Diagram N or A10 yet!  
 

Thanks again team, this mist be quite hard work, both to compile and to get the collated results out so quickly.  Appreciated, chaps!

[Hroth]

Thanks to the team for processing and publishing the poll so quickly.  Well done!

 

Pleased to see that one of my likes was in the top ten, and four more in the top fifty. 

They may appear sometime in the future, maybe?

 

[Phatbob]

Firstly, many thanks to the poll team.
A most interesting set of results.

Delighted to see that the "Hornbys" polling top for electric locos.  I have a kit for 20003 sat on the workbench and another for 20001 on order.  No doubt somebody will (hopefully) announce an RTR one just as I'm finishing them. ;-) LOL

 

[D9020 Nimbus]

Some very interesting results. Personally, I was pleased to see the J67/8/9 top the LNER list. Having been proposed as a model in the 1960s but never built, and actually been modelled in N by Farish in the 1970s, it would be nice to see one.

 

I note that none of the diesel locomotives score as highly as any of the steam locos. Given they’re doing it in N, Revolution Trains may take note of the placing of the class 120 DMU. I doubt we'll see the class 124 Trans-Pennine DMU, however, at least in original form — six-car units cost a lot, it's geographically restricted, didn't make it to London in service and lacks the glamour of the Midland Pullman.

 

I was surprised to see the 08/09 top the diesel loco poll. I didn't think there was believed to be much wrong with the Hornby or Bachmann versions.

 

One thing — there are no results listed for either coaches or wagons of Scottish companies. Were there really no votes at all for any of these?

Edited January 2, 2023 by D9020 Nimbus