rembrow Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 Just spoken to Hattons. They're expecting them in December (BR livery) Just back from my local shop in Colchester and they saw a Bachmann rep this week, who advised the BR Crimson livery versions are still on track for September delivery. I believe December is for either SECR or Southern livery versions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 Just back from my local shop in Colchester and they saw a Bachmann rep this week, who advised the BR Crimson livery versions are still on track for September delivery. I believe December is for either SECR or Southern livery versions. ..... not exactly what they circulated two days ago, then ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham_Muz Posted August 24, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 24, 2017 (edited) Not a hoax Here are a couple of snaps of my review samples taken quickly when I test ran them on High Wycombe and District MRS test track, the review of which, with proper pictures, will go live on my blog at http://www.grahammuz.com on Friday 8th Sept See also https://twitter.com/GrahamMuz/status/897895390737035267 Edited August 24, 2017 by Graham_Muz 16 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenGiraffe22 Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 That E4 looks so handsome in wartime black! I'm holding off repainting my 473 incase Bachmann release one in black in the next year or so, can't wait to add Birdcages to my layout, I only preordered mine in January and am feeling impatient, goodness knows how some of you feel who preordered years ago aha 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted August 24, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 24, 2017 Just spoken to Hattons. They're expecting them in December (BR livery) I have to say, Ernie, that Graham Muz's pics do suggest that livery may be here rather sooner! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham_Muz Posted August 24, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 24, 2017 Indeed the BR version should arrive to retailers during September with the SR version to follow Oct/Nov and the SE&CR version Nov/Dec as far as the current information I have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big James Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 Totally of the lswr for me. But I grew up holidaying in dynchurch so might build a small layout based on new Romney as excuse to run them and my C class. Plus the H class I got on pre-order. Big james. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold phil_sutters Posted August 24, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 24, 2017 I do hope they throw in a couple of Woodland Scenics packs in ---- http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/gallery/image/81491-birdcage-brake-3rd-body-winchelsea-beach-21-7-2006/ 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceptic Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 I've still got my doubts about this, Bachmann's version of BR's Crimson (Aka Carmine). It looks to be out of the same paint pot as that used by Hornby. It needs to be brighter ! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevor7598 Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 I've still got my doubts about this, Bachmann's version of BR's Crimson (Aka Carmine). It looks to be out of the same paint pot as that used by Hornby. It needs to be brighter ! In natural daylight, the shade of crimson used by Bachmann looks ( to my eyes ) about right. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted August 29, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 29, 2017 (edited) Red motor cars, painted decades later than this, often fade visibly, more than most other hues. Did crimson hold the same colour throughout its life? I doubt it. Looking at Michael Welch's 'Southern Coaches In Colour' suggests the shade varied. I will still be a customer. Edited August 29, 2017 by Oldddudders Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forester Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Red motor cars, painted decades later than this, often fade visibly, more than most other hues. Did crimson hold the same colour throughout its life? I doubt it. Looking at Michael Welch's 'Southern Coaches In Colour' suggests the shade varied. I will still be a customer. Bachmann does seem to understand that to look right on a model, matching the original prototype paint chip exactly is not the answer. It needs to be toned down a shade for a model, exactly as it appears here - and not as the latest Engine Shed states, which is why Hornby often looks too bright to be realistic and needs light weathering to bring out the best. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterstgermain Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 That E4 looks so handsome in wartime black! I'm holding off repainting my 473 incase Bachmann release one in black in the next year or so, can't wait to add Birdcages to my layout, I only preordered mine in January and am feeling impatient, goodness knows how some of you feel who preordered years ago aha For some, me included, it's race between delivery from a Cheshire emporium & ours to the great layout in the sky..Peter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 For some, me included, it's race between delivery from a Cheshire emporium & ours to the great layout in the sky..Peter .......... and it would be SO ANNOYING to hear the parcel thump onto your doorstep just as you get to the Pearly Gates ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRman Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 .......... and it would be SO ANNOYING to hear the parcel thump onto your doorstep just as you get to the Pearly Gates ! But what if, like me, you are going to the "OTHER" place? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted August 31, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 31, 2017 (edited) But what if, like me, you are going to the "OTHER" place? That would indeed be hell! But then an avatar showing a Dartford via Bexleyheath service might suggest you've already been there! Edited August 31, 2017 by Oldddudders Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireline Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 .......... and it would be SO ANNOYING to hear the parcel thump onto your doorstep just as you get to the Pearly Gates ! The thump would be the "We tried to deliver your parcel" card.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottest Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 With all due apologies if this has been asked/answered before, but are the bogies compatible with the near/contemporary LSWR corridor stock? If so, then methinks there could be a wider demand. Scottest Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brake Compo Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 With all due apologies if this has been asked/answered before, but are the bogies compatible with the near/contemporary LSWR corridor stock? If so, then methinks there could be a wider demand. Scottest Both had Fox's pressed steel bogies, but I believe that the bolster springing differed between the SEC, LSW, & LBSC applications - although would need to check. Think the greatest difference was on the LBSC applications though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rasalmon Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Both had Fox's pressed steel bogies, but I believe that the bolster springing differed between the SEC, LSW, & LBSC applications - although would need to check. Think the greatest difference was on the LBSC applications though. Billinton on the LBSCR used Foxes Plate Bogies, rather than the pressed ones used by SECR. LSWR used a variety of bogie types over the years. Even if using the same bogie frame types, they could be different lengths (7ft, 8ft or 9ft wheelbase) between railways/stock. The LSCR bogie first 7958 on the Blueebll runs on LNWR Foxes plate bogies, which has a different bolster arrangement from the LBSC Foxes Plate bogies, but few will notice the difference! We were just lucky to be able to obtain a suitable underframe of nearly the right length to restore it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul.Uni Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 The BR livered set are showing as in stock on the Bachmann website. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RFS Posted September 15, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 15, 2017 Got the email from Hatton's today saying they expect to have them in stock on 21st September. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Midland Mole Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 Our Bachmann rep should be in on Monday, hopefully he will have some up to date info on them. Alex Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 Well these have appeared before I built mine as usual. I might get a set of the SR ones and build mine as a BR set. Saves all that lining. Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest spet0114 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 Well these have appeared before I built mine as usual. I might get a set of the SR ones and build mine as a BR set. Saves all that lining. Jason To be fair, these were announced in 2012 or 13. You've had quite a while to finish yours! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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