RMweb Gold stovepipe Posted February 2, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 2, 2017 Typing error again. It is 1977. David 009 it is then..complete with RG a little earlier in the trip. The comment on Flickr which working it was is wrong - https://flic.kr/p/brMyRV Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted February 2, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 2, 2017 (edited) Hi, Dave. Excellent photos of Pilmoor. In C231, the unit is a true hybrid. Class 108 DMCL, then class 101 TSL, and TBSL, and class 104 DMCL. You can just make out the non vent window which is opposite to the toilet, and the different roof vents and tumblehome on that rear car which identifies which one it is. With warmest regards, Rob. Edited February 2, 2017 by Market65 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swindon 123 Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 Before I post today's photos can I once again thank those who point out my captioning errors. If the location or date look odd they are probably my typing errors, as are most loco classes (except dmus). Now and then I type up for down and vice versa. If all the images I post have file numbers which are close to each other then the date should the same for each of them, or at least very near. Train workings are another matter, to those who regularly add information of train identifications and timings thanks very much. Younger followers of this thread may not always realise just how little information was available to most enthusiasts when these photos were taken. Obviously in pre-internet days there was no Real Time Trains site. Working timetables were almost impossible to obtain, especially current ones so working out which train was which was often difficult. It was even hard to obtain details of most special workings. As you know, most of Dad's and my photos were taken by the lineside, not at stations. We usually had a copy of the latest public timetable and tried to work out the likely passing times for our location from the station times. Of course if you got it wrong, or trains were out of sequence then you noted everything incorrectly. Even headcode details were hard to obtain, Ian Allan did do an abc of 4 figure headcodes, but in practice it only gave the first two digits - train class and destination area. In other words you generally went out, found a nice location and took photos of whatever turned up. Now for the photos. Today we have photos from visits to Pilmoor in four different years. Pilmoor Class 47 D1982 Kings X to Edinburgh Sept 67 J1130.jpg Pilmoor Class 47 Kings X to Edinburgh? Sept 67 J1130 Pilmoor Class 108 up pass July70 C231.jpg Pilmoor Class 108 up pass July70 C231 are the centre coaches Class 101? Pilmoor Class 47 Kings X to Edinburgh Aug 75 J4544.jpg Pilmoor Class 47 Kings X to Edinburgh Aug 75 J4544 Pilmoor Class 37 37250 up empty coal Feb 83 C5966.jpg Pilmoor Class 37 37250 up empty coal Feb 83 C5966 Pilmoor Class 43 43084 down ex pass Feb 83 C5967.jpg Pilmoor Class 43 43084 down ex pass Feb 83 C5967 David Another excellent set of photos David. The mixed up DMU set is a gem. One loco identification point. I make the 47 in the first photo J1130 to be D1577. The loco is Vac only and D1982 would have been DB from new. Thank you again for sharing this invaluable archive of photos. Paul J. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted February 2, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 2, 2017 Another excellent set of photos David. The mixed up DMU set is a gem. One loco identification point. I make the 47 in the first photo J1130 to be D1577. The loco is Vac only and D1982 would have been DB from new. Thank you again for sharing this invaluable archive of photos. Paul J. Thanks Paul. I realised it was wrong after I posted it, so I removed the number from the text beneath the image but RMWeb doesn't allow editing of the original uploaded image title.. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinWalsh Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 This thread is rapidly becoming an excellent education in railway working history for those of us who came to the hobby later in life, and mighty grateful I am Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark54 Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 1A36 was the 14:00 KX-Edinburgh - "The Heart of Midlothian" and should be Deltic hauled. The formation indicates it was the Saturday train and interestingly it utilised the London based Talisman set with a couple of TSO's on the back, which returned the following day on the 11:00SuO Edinburgh-KX. 1S99 is not in the WTT or carriage workings. Probably a special working. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted February 2, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 2, 2017 Dave Your comments on linesiding in this era are just so true! But wasn't it the joy of not knowing what would turn up that made the trips such an adventure? For me its things like... Warships at New Street and Bescot - oh and a Clayton and Baby Deltic at Bescot too, even if they were scrappers A pair of D65xx at New Street too....D4 at Stourbridge....D200 at Worcester...Kings Cross with Deltics....the list goes on Happy days! Only wish I had your photo record Phil 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted February 3, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 3, 2017 Dave Your comments on linesiding in this era are just so true! But wasn't it the joy of not knowing what would turn up that made the trips such an adventure? For me its things like... Warships at New Street and Bescot - oh and a Clayton and Baby Deltic at Bescot too, even if they were scrappers A pair of D65xx at New Street too....D4 at Stourbridge....D200 at Worcester...Kings Cross with Deltics....the list goes on Happy days! Only wish I had your photo record Phil Phil, It was indeed the unpredictabilty of what might turn up that made it so enjoyable. When I go out taking photos now I usually know in advance what I will see, I actually take fewer railway photos now even though (in theory) I have more time to go out now I'm retired. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
35A Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 Phil, It was indeed the unpredictabilty of what might turn up that made it so enjoyable. When I go out taking photos now I usually know in advance what I will see, I actually take fewer railway photos now even though (in theory) I have more time to go out now I'm retired. David Very much the same here, Dave & Phil. Last year I took a grand total of 4 railway photographs. Unheard of, for me, when I used to take 250-350 a year and even recently have still averaged 100-150 a year. I think that it's probably down to the lack of locomotive haulage these days, our age and the weather. Certainly I tend to go out less now than I used to, especially on bad weather days, and even when I do I'm much more picky about taking pictures - I've got enough shots on gloomy, damp, characterless days as it is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted February 3, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted February 3, 2017 I was happily typing a note about today's photos all being Great Western when I remembered that one isn't. So today we have four on the Great western and one on the Southern (LSWR to be exact). The first one is the Southern photo. Heddon Mill is on the LSWR line between Barnstaple and Ilfracombe. It's one of Dad's, I have a black and white photo of the same train. It was taken while we were on holiday staying with friends who owned the old cinema in Appledore and had converted part of it into a holiday home. Heddon Mill Swindon dmu Ilfracombe to Exeter Aug 66 J582 Next we have three photos, also of Dad's, taken at Fenny Compton on the GWR line between Banbury and Leamington Spa. Fenny Compton Class 47 Birmingham to Paddington July 71 J2723 Fenny Compton Class 47 1720 up Ford cars July 71 J2724 Fenny Compton Class 46 173 up coal July 71 J2725 Lastly one taken looking across the water to Dawlish Warren, taken from Exmouth. I was on holiday there with my then girlfriend. from Exmouth up ex pass in distance on GWR main line around Dawlish Warren June 71 C5504 David 45 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffP Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 Phil, It was indeed the unpredictabilty of what might turn up that made it so enjoyable. When I go out taking photos now I usually know in advance what I will see, I actually take fewer railway photos now even though (in theory) I have more time to go out now I'm retired. David This is why I no longer bother. I had ten happy years photographing stuff in France for the same reason, chasing obscure stuff etc, now it's very much like here and very difficult to get round anywhere. Anyone ever tells me the terrorists aren't winnning will get short shrift..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffP Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 Dave: are we going to try and identify the loco on the front of the express in C5504? I reckon it's a Western.........but which one? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Pilotman Posted February 3, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 3, 2017 Dave: are we going to try and identify the loco on the front of the express in C5504? I reckon it's a Western.........but which one? It's D1099 WESTERN MYSTERY 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted February 3, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 3, 2017 (edited) Hi, Dave. A great selection of Western and Southern Region photos. The class 120 has a characteristically weathered white roof dome, and it makes a contrast with the red lamp on the level crossing gate. With warmest regards, Rob. Edited February 3, 2017 by Market65 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted February 3, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 3, 2017 Dave: are we going to try and identify the loco on the front of the express in C5504? I reckon it's a Western.........but which one? Well, to cut it down, it hasn't got headboard clips. Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jessy1692 Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 (edited) Any one got a time table for the ferry? I bet someone could make a good guess of the working from that. Edit just thought, its probably a pleasure boat trip so probably irrelevant Edited February 3, 2017 by jessy1692 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted February 3, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 3, 2017 (edited) Any one got a time table for the ferry? I bet someone could make a good guess of the working from that. Edit just thought, its probably a pleasure boat trip so probably irrelevant It was probably taken in the late morning, but it was a very long time ago, so I'm not sure. If anyone would like to work out the time from the shadows...... For ten years I didn't even notice the train in the background, it only got moved from the "general" slide boxes to the railway boxes in August 1981, when it was re catalogued. David Edited February 3, 2017 by DaveF 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Ian Smeeton Posted February 3, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 3, 2017 It was probably taken in the late morning, but it was a very long time ago, so I'm not sure. If anyone would like to work out the time from the shadows...... For ten years I didn't even notice the train in the background, it only got moved from the "general" slide boxes to the railway boxes in August 1981, when it was re catalogued. David More importantly, Dave, Which young lady on the Ferry is your ex-girlfriend? (I take it that you missed the boat on that one) Regards Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted February 3, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 3, 2017 It was probably taken in the late morning, but it was a very long time ago, so I'm not sure. If anyone would like to work out the time from the shadows...... I reckon around 12:00 http://www.suncalc.net/#/50.6171,-3.4235,15/1971.06.15/12:10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted February 3, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 3, 2017 More importantly, Dave, Which young lady on the Ferry is your ex-girlfriend? (I take it that you missed the boat on that one) Regards Ian She was shopping at the time. I wonder why it didn't last? David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium ColinK Posted February 3, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 3, 2017 It's D1099 WESTERN MYSTERY I like that. Now I'll have to get another class 52 model and rename it. I wonder who will make me some nameplates. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidBird Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 (edited) ... I didn't even notice the train in the background, I say that with a lot of photos I take with my wife, but in truth.... Edited February 4, 2017 by DavidBird Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
35A Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 (edited) 009 it is then..complete with RG a little earlier in the trip. The comment on Flickr which working it was is wrong - https://flic.kr/p/brMyRV Again, re C3230, that fits in with the diagrams reported on Chronicles. All of the other FP Deltics are eliminated by virtue of being on Anglo-Scottish diagrams, depot or works, apart from 18, which was doing a Leeds run in the opposite direction at the time that 1A14 was heading in. "Alycidon" was reported as working 1E11, 08:50 Aberdeen - King's Cross, from Edinburgh, on 4th March 1977, then 1N24, 16:10 King's Cross - Newcastle on 5th. It's entirely feasible that, after arrival in London on 4th, she did an unreported run to Leeds, returning the following morning on the working that we now have two photographs for, as evidence. Edited February 4, 2017 by 35A Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted February 4, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted February 4, 2017 Harrogate in the mid 60s today. The photos are of the late morning train to King's Cross, which had more coaches added at Leeds. It was the last regularly steam hauled passenger working from Harrogate, leaving around 11.40 a.m., varying slightly over the years. The images are scanned from half frame slides so are not as crisp as some. Harrogate B1 61303 Harrogate to Kings X June 65 J189 Harrogate B1 61337 Harrogate to Kings X Dec 65 J428 Harrogate BR Class 5 73158 Harrogate to Kings X Jan 66 J435 Harrogate LMS Class 5 45319 Harrogate to Kings X Mar 66 J447 Harrogate B1 61199 Harrogate to Kings X April 66 J460 David 43 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted February 4, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 4, 2017 No need to apologise for the quality of pics IMHO, worthwhile at any resolution. Mike. PS. Seem to have been a little light on hydraulics lately!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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