RMweb Premium younGGuns7 Posted June 8, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 8, 2022 40 minutes ago, ERIC ALLTORQUE said: A £263 non runner with sound,and its a bug eye light job,some bargin that.........they must be running out of returned items soon. https://www.hattons.co.uk/893447/hattons_originals_h4_66_026_s_po03_class_66_66740_in_gbrf_europorte_livery_sarah_sound_fitted_pre_owned_sold_as_/stockdetail Good box thou 🤣 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted June 8, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 8, 2022 8 hours ago, ERIC ALLTORQUE said: A £263 non runner with sound,and its a bug eye light job,some bargin that.........they must be running out of returned items soon. https://www.hattons.co.uk/893447/hattons_originals_h4_66_026_s_po03_class_66_66740_in_gbrf_europorte_livery_sarah_sound_fitted_pre_owned_sold_as_/stockdetail Now at £160. Somebody must have read your comment! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium ERIC ALLTORQUE Posted June 9, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 9, 2022 18 hours ago, newbryford said: Now at £160. Somebody must have read your comment! It sold it for them,only good for spares and the sound bits. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted June 10, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 10, 2022 12 hours ago, R. Knowles said: Should really be at no more than a hundred for the condition it's in. Really? I thought £160 for a sound fitted loco was a bargain for somebody. The sound chip and EM2 are worth nearly that alone. I would not be surprised to see lots of Hattons 66 spares on ebay soon, total value being £300+ Roy 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted June 10, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 10, 2022 16 minutes ago, Roy Langridge said: Really? I thought £160 for a sound fitted loco was a bargain for somebody. The sound chip and EM2 are worth nearly that alone. I would not be surprised to see lots of Hattons 66 spares on ebay soon, total value being £300+ Roy Yeah 160 is good. It’s only a non runner, not a destroyed model. Motors can be had for cheap enough 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted June 10, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 10, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, Hilux5972 said: Yeah 160 is good. It’s only a non runner, not a destroyed model. Motors can be had for cheap enough I bought a bunch of motors for a few quid each on ebay… though so far ive not needed to use any of them, in a Hattons 66.. (they fit Heljan too), all just needed a little tlc. I did ponder this one with sound… remember it could be a non-runner due to the sound chip too.. which is a bit more expensive to replace, but at £160 thats probably a risk worth to take given the dc ready value it would have as a runner anyway. Edited June 10, 2022 by adb968008 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium ERIC ALLTORQUE Posted June 10, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 10, 2022 11 minutes ago, adb968008 said: I bought a bunch of motors for a few quid each on ebay… though so far ive not needed to use any of them, in a Hattons 66.. (they fit Heljan too), all just needed a little tlc. I did ponder this one with sound… remember it could be a non-runner due to the sound chip too.. which is a bit more expensive to replace, but at £160 thats probably a risk worth to take given the dc ready value it would have as a runner anyway. There was body bits missing/grills too,and as you say if the chips stuffed its a gamble,good box though,its gone anyway, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted June 10, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 10, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, ERIC ALLTORQUE said: Err that didnt live well.. posted a few minutes ago… apparently once inside, there was no motor, sound chip, board or speaker… Though he seems to have a happy ending, assume its going back. Maybe I can use one of my spare motors afterall.. Edited June 10, 2022 by adb968008 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium ERIC ALLTORQUE Posted June 10, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 10, 2022 Well we all dodged that one well,so just a good box in the end............ 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold jonnyuk Posted June 10, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 10, 2022 bloody hell...there is no runner and just damn right false advertising. if they can highlight the cosmetic stuff missing, they SHOULD of highlighted the internal parts missing. Shame on you Hattons..............i'd get in my car and have it out with them, waiting for a shop full of customers first. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted June 10, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 10, 2022 16 minutes ago, jonnyuk said: bloody hell...there is no runner and just damn right false advertising. if they can highlight the cosmetic stuff missing, they SHOULD of highlighted the internal parts missing. Shame on you Hattons..............i'd get in my car and have it out with them, waiting for a shop full of customers first. Mistakes happen. if you read the comments underneath, they seem to have put their hands up, so its either going back or theyve made him whole. I would love to have seen his face when lifting the top off though. Funny thing is its more appealing to me now, I have spare board, spare motor and can make handrails. I reckon Bachmann grills might fit. Of course depends on price. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold jonnyuk Posted June 10, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 10, 2022 12 minutes ago, adb968008 said: Mistakes happen. if you read the comments underneath, they seem to have put their hands up, so its either going back or theyve made him whole. I would love to have seen his face when lifting the top off though. Funny thing is its more appealing to me now, I have spare board, spare motor and can make handrails. I reckon Bachmann grills might fit. Of course depends on price. apologies i'm not on twitter so only played the video. I think it shows actually for pre-owned, they look at , put it on the track, if it does not move its a non runner. really should add abit more QA into that process if its a non runner to understand if all the bits are there etc. how much for a chassis and duff body work? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted June 10, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 10, 2022 5 minutes ago, jonnyuk said: apologies i'm not on twitter so only played the video. I think it shows actually for pre-owned, they look at , put it on the track, if it does not move its a non runner. really should add abit more QA into that process if its a non runner to understand if all the bits are there etc. how much for a chassis and duff body work? Dunno - ask GM/EMD/Caterpillar 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium ERIC ALLTORQUE Posted June 10, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 10, 2022 48 minutes ago, newbryford said: Dunno - ask GM/EMD/Caterpillar Bet the box is well stuffed on this one..... 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomScrut Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, jonnyuk said: apologies i'm not on twitter so only played the video. I think it shows actually for pre-owned, they look at , put it on the track, if it does not move its a non runner. really should add abit more QA into that process if its a non runner to understand if all the bits are there etc. how much for a chassis and duff body work? That's what I was thinking. They'll have taken the code off the box, tried it and then put it as non runner I expect. I see one of two things having happened here. The guts were ripped out in their warranty department to get somebody else's/another return going and not logged it properly, or it wouldn't surprise me for a moment if it is in fact Hattons that have been scammed, depending on how their returns department works and how much work they had on at the time. Somebody returning the item as a non runner/cosmetic issues but in the meantime have gutted the thing, and by the time anyone noticed the loco may not even be associated with anyone if it's been put in a corner without being investigated before money being given back. Edited June 10, 2022 by TomScrut 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyman7 Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 (edited) I know it's annoying but at least it can go back return paid for a full refund. A waste of time? Yes. Poor QC yes? A rip-off? Well, er, no because the customer has got their money back without argument. And 'Millsy' has got a couple of good Twitter videos out of it (and seems to have taken it in good humour). Edited June 10, 2022 by andyman7 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted June 10, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 10, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, jonnyuk said: apologies i'm not on twitter so only played the video. I think it shows actually for pre-owned, they look at , put it on the track, if it does not move its a non runner. really should add abit more QA into that process if its a non runner to understand if all the bits are there etc. how much for a chassis and duff body work? Not sure tbh, in old money they sold knackers as low as £60, a body alone is worth at least that now. Above @Roy Langridgespeculates the bits stripped down might be worth £300, and he might have been right, though obviously without the sound and a motor that recedes a bit. I definitely have enough bits to make it a good one out of it, though it’d not be an ex-factory one it’d be credible, I like those kind of challenges. There is no doubt prices have gone up, ebay has several sold at prices in the high £250+ bracket for dcc ready. Though there isnt too many out there being sold. Edited June 10, 2022 by adb968008 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted June 11, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 11, 2022 (edited) Edit: didn’t spot the Video of 66740 was already posted Edited June 11, 2022 by big jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
97403_Ixion Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 Top marks to the person who bought the model and laughed when he showed the internals - true sense of humour there! Not very impressed by the lack of checks done by the supplier though. In fairness, maybe just a one off case, done on a Friday afternoon and the sun was out... might make them more rigorous next time? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted June 11, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 11, 2022 I know I shouldn’t but one of the Twitter replies about the hattons employee who was jailed after he stole to fund his drug habit did make me laugh! Maybe that’s where the innards went 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium ERIC ALLTORQUE Posted June 11, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 11, 2022 6 hours ago, big jim said: I know I shouldn’t but one of the Twitter replies about the hattons employee who was jailed after he stole to fund his drug habit did make me laugh! Maybe that’s where the innards went Just be careful parking one up in Liverpool,you might get back and the V12 and generator have dissapeared. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HExpressD Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 I'm sure I remember seeing somewhere that Hattons, to speed up photography of pre-owned items, were stopping taking some items out of their boxes, if this is true and this is still done then I suppose its no wonder that this has ended up happening. Happy to be corrected on this, and I am sure that Hattons will solve the non running 66 issues swiftly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dj_crisp Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 It's the second non runner with no motor that I'm aware of in the last month. Nearly all of mine were wobbly runners from them and I'd stick to that description from now on! (Although I've finished my She'd project so have no plans for any more). To be fair to Hattons they are good at accepting returns. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium ERIC ALLTORQUE Posted June 13, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 13, 2022 4 hours ago, dj_crisp said: It's the second non runner with no motor that I'm aware of in the last month. Nearly all of mine were wobbly runners from them and I'd stick to that description from now on! (Although I've finished my She'd project so have no plans for any more). To be fair to Hattons they are good at accepting returns. To be honest if this is stuff from there ruturns of new faulty items i would be surprized,if they are getting them as trade ins why dont they weigh them for a quick test,easy done if they are that pressed for time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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