RMweb Gold 97406 Posted July 25, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 25, 2022 8 hours ago, newbryford said: Duly corrected.... 😃 Me too, though I'll be well and truly broke if they did! 😄 I'll settle for spare bodyshells just for the cabs, which will appear over time. I've bitten and gone for the middle spec 430 with sound from Rails, as I am after a Welsh 37/4 and I've been good and not bought any locos for over a month now! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete the Elaner Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 9 hours ago, rob D2 said: Didn’t Bachmann do it before ? I’m sure I had a ltd edition twin pack from KMRC that was 37/9. The previous 37/9 was probably just a renumbered centre headcode 37/7, but the prototype had a different roof profile. They have been a lot fussier with the latest release. Different roof types (welded, single/double rivetted), different bogies (cast/fabricated). If either makes one for their latest 37, I would therefore expect it to have a correct roof. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted July 25, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 25, 2022 (edited) So now we have 2 super detailed 37’s to choose from, the dilemma for Manufacturers is when to announce them ? we saw what happened when the 66 liveries were announced a year before release. As a modeller i’d like to see variety, and with 300 examples in what must be at least 60 liveries this shouldn’t be an issue. But competitively its probably too tempting to see both beat each other up over the same popular number/livery combinations. Surely a new Mk1/mk2a must be on the horizon, as must be a 16t mineral. Coming back to the 66’s.. its the most prevalent diesel locomotive in the country today, its fallacy to think that Bachmann would drop it. Many of Bachmanns upgrades are technical too.. upgrading boards and motors which leads to a redesigned chassis and then the body.. imo, i’d wager an old 66 on it, that at a minimum a new Chassis, Electronics is coming, but an upgraded 66 imo is coming. Now… Refurb 37/4’s , 37/5’s … 1990’s style who will be first ? Thats the cash cow… Edited July 25, 2022 by adb968008 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 10 hours ago, Markwj said: I am sure you are right and they did 905/6 but I am not certain the roof was right or that the roof mods were not done for 901-4 ,or I could be completely wrong! Kernow commissioned Bachmann to produce 37906, one of the two with a Ruston engine. The photo shows it with 37057 on the right for comparison. The difference in the exhaust outlets can be seen. My understanding is that the four with Mirrlees engines were not modelled because the roofs would have required much more extensive modifications. My model 37906 contains the Ruston sound project from Digitrains. 1 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 (edited) duplicated Edited July 25, 2022 by JSpencer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GD Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 1 hour ago, adb968008 said: Surely a new Mk1/mk2a must be on the horizon You could be onto something there, those Scotrail mk 2s have taken a hell of a long time to appear. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium curlypaws Posted July 25, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 25, 2022 The Bachmann Class 47 is a very nice model indeed. It doesn't quite have the wow factor of the Accurascale Deltic for me, but perhaps that is partly because the old model 47 was already very good. The sound is a big step up though. The new Bachmann 37 seems a little similar but looks to be more accurate for variants which may well be true for the 47 too. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drifter Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 Well, that didn’t go well. My LMS has only been allocated one 37. Presumably a lot were sold at DEMU. I was after a DCC Ready. Didn’t get any of that model. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MikeParkin65 Posted July 25, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 25, 2022 Given Bachmanns new found preference for releasing new models with little prior build up I wonder if there is a OO 31 on the cards from them? They've already gathered the research materials for the N scale version .............. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ghost of IKB Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 2 hours ago, adb968008 said: As a modeller i’d like to see variety, and with 300 examples in what must be at least 60 liveries this shouldn’t be an issue I make that 18,000 different locos. Gulp! I need a bigger engine shed! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pauliebanger Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 (edited) 23 hours ago, TomScrut said: This is a shame for me as I prefer ESU. Bachmann seem inconsistent with who they choose for sound. Maybe to keep them both on their toes? No such inconsistency with Graham Farish, however, which have only ever used ZIMO sound decoders in factory fitted sound models. Maybe something to do with the smooth pull-away ZIMO decoders provide rather than the 'jerk start' typical of other brands? Edited July 25, 2022 by pauliebanger 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonC Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, MikeParkin65 said: Given Bachmanns new found preference for releasing new models with little prior build up I wonder if there is a OO 31 on the cards from them? They've already gathered the research materials for the N scale version .............. apparently the bulk of the development costs are in tooling and sharing research doesn't really save that much Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MikeParkin65 Posted July 25, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 25, 2022 1 minute ago, GordonC said: apparently the bulk of the development costs are in tooling and sharing research doesn't really save that much Might not save costs but definitely saves time .... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted July 25, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 25, 2022 18 minutes ago, The Ghost of IKB said: I make that 18,000 different locos. Gulp! I need a bigger engine shed! And then there is weathered versions 😀 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cairnsroadworks Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 3 hours ago, adb968008 said: So now we have 2 super detailed 37’s to choose from, the dilemma for Manufacturers is when to announce them ? we saw what happened when the 66 liveries were announced a year before release. As a modeller i’d like to see variety, and with 300 examples in what must be at least 60 liveries this shouldn’t be an issue. But competitively its probably too tempting to see both beat each other up over the same popular number/livery combinations. Surely a new Mk1/mk2a must be on the horizon, as must be a 16t mineral. Coming back to the 66’s.. its the most prevalent diesel locomotive in the country today, its fallacy to think that Bachmann would drop it. Many of Bachmanns upgrades are technical too.. upgrading boards and motors which leads to a redesigned chassis and then the body.. imo, i’d wager an old 66 on it, that at a minimum a new Chassis, Electronics is coming, but an upgraded 66 imo is coming. Now… Refurb 37/4’s , 37/5’s … 1990’s style who will be first ? Thats the cash cow… This version from Bachmann is the 1990s spec 37/4 isn’t it? Obviously not the 37/5 hasn’t been announced, yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 97406 Posted July 25, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 25, 2022 2 hours ago, No Decorum said: Kernow commissioned Bachmann to produce 37906, one of the two with a Ruston engine. The photo shows it with 37057 on the right for comparison. The difference in the exhaust outlets can be seen. My understanding is that the four with Mirrlees engines were not modelled because the roofs would have required much more extensive modifications. My model 37906 contains the Ruston sound project from Digitrains. The class 40 in my profile pic has cabs from the moulding on the left, and I rememeber noting the exhaust arrangements on the donor body at the time. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete the Elaner Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 1 hour ago, MikeParkin65 said: Given Bachmanns new found preference for releasing new models with little prior build up I wonder if there is a OO 31 on the cards from them? They've already gathered the research materials for the N scale version .............. Who knows what they have planned? I find it interesting to see what they announce every quarter. The 37 was a big one though, so I won't be disappointed to see little next week. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BR Blue Posted July 25, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 25, 2022 Just to clarify. Kernow did commission Bachmann to do 37905 and 906, the 2 Ruston ones. However the models produced were not accurate for the later 80s / early 90s and included later modifications. Both locos changed a lot especially in the early years. As mentioned 37901-904 have much more extensive roof modifications and these have never been modelled ready to run, yet!!! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
meatloaf Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Drifter said: Well, that didn’t go well. My LMS has only been allocated one 37. Presumably a lot were sold at DEMU. I was after a DCC Ready. Didn’t get any of that model. Kernow had the dcc ready versions in this morning 35-335 Bachmann Class 37/4 Diesel Locomotive 37 430 Cwmbran (kernowmodelrailcentre.com) Edited July 25, 2022 by meatloaf 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick-L Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 5 hours ago, Pete the Elaner said: The previous 37/9 was probably just a renumbered centre headcode 37/7, but the prototype had a different roof profile. They have been a lot fussier with the latest release. Different roof types (welded, single/double rivetted), different bogies (cast/fabricated). If either makes one for their latest 37, I would therefore expect it to have a correct roof. They did some mods to depict the 2 Ruston machines. As for the Mirlees powered ones….a bit of modelling currently needed for that….but it can be done! 7 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted July 25, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 25, 2022 Interesting choice for the Collectors Club loco. Is Accurascale's Graham Hubbard still involved with the Heavy Traction Group whose 37714 is or was named Cardiff Canton...........or have I got that completely wrong ? Rob 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomScrut Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 4 hours ago, pauliebanger said: Maybe something to do with the smooth pull-away ZIMO decoders provide rather than the 'jerk start' typical of other brands? Can't speak for N but in OO ESUs are generally very good and not jerky 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
meatloaf Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 Theyve used zimo and ESU in 00. The 20 and 24 and 121 were all zimo, with the new 47 being esu. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pmorgancym Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 So what is the breakdown between Bachmann and AS over who can create what subclass? I'd assumed AS was mostly post 2000 versions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IRC Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 No 37/5 or 37/7 subclass or have I completely misread that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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