RMweb Premium PMP Posted October 10, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 10, 2022 1 minute ago, meatloaf said: One thing i didnt see mentioned is about the track. Im assuming its going to be code 55 like the peco pointwork? Hopefully yes. That would allow them connectivity into other European ranges as I understand it. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AY Mod Posted October 10, 2022 Author Moderators Share Posted October 10, 2022 1 minute ago, meatloaf said: Im assuming its going to be code 55 like the peco pointwork? No information has been provided on specification, construction or detail. At all. On anything. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HonestTom Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Trains4U said: The issue comes when the target “Family” get their set, then traipse over to their local model shop to get a new wagon or piece of track and find there is nothing there for them and no support for the products they’ve purchased. If they ordered their set online, the chances are they'll be making follow-up purchases the same way. If not, well, Peco and Heljan have them covered. This is definitely a bold move, and I will be interested to see how it goes. Sets are a good idea if you want to hook people into your new scale, especially if you're looking to the beginners' market. I feel like they're aiming more at the serious modellers' market - there's a distinct lack of Coca-Cola wagons and Santa Expresses. The prices are also (mostly) rather attractive as compared to the 00 range. Certainly I'll admit that I'm tempted. Edited October 10, 2022 by HonestTom 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pmorgancym Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 A few thoughts.... Surprised they didn't didn't revive the Triang name. Why is the 66 so cheap?? Guess they're determined to drive a massive wedge between themselves and the retailers. They've certainly tried to dominate this new scale but what if their products turn out to be crap, could take the whole project down with them. Are we looking at genuine models or mock ups using 00 locos. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talltim Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 46 minutes ago, Tartaruga said: And it is a good size for people with less space and bigger than N for smaller fingers. I'm really surprised how much they have been are going for it; I for one am impressed. I hope they make some European models too. 🐢 These are all European models, except maybe the 66 if you are being extra picky (I would never do that!) Hornby have also been producing mainland European models in TT for a few years, since they bought Arnold. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefen1988 Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 Couplers and Tracks (especial their power connector Clip) looks like those from german Tillig to me. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mel_H Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, meatloaf said: One thing i didnt see mentioned is about the track. Im assuming its going to be code 55 like the peco pointwork? Yes, it is. Seen it mentioned somewhere that it is, and will be compatible with Peco's TT:120 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mel_H Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Pmorgancym said: A few thoughts.... Surprised they didn't didn't revive the Triang name. Why is the 66 so cheap?? Guess they're determined to drive a massive wedge between themselves and the retailers. They've certainly tried to dominate this new scale but what if their products turn out to be crap, could take the whole project down with them. Are we looking at genuine models or mock ups using 00 locos. Hornby is a strong brand, Tri-ang is long dead, sadly. Cheap Class 66 - well, I'm sure someone else will do an expensive one! Edited October 10, 2022 by Mel_H 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke_stevens Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, PaulRhB said: So what realistic stock is there for the 66’s to pull as I don’t think the Colas and GBRF are compatible with more than two tank liveries. <snip> Not exactly joined up thinking on the first release for scale modelling 😉 It's in the brochure wagons part "The shape of things to come" Edited October 10, 2022 by luke_stevens 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium nightstar.train Posted October 10, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, Pmorgancym said: Are we looking at genuine models or mock ups using 00 locos. The A4s, A3s and Pullman coaches are certainly real, we saw them chuffing around in the video. Hornby are well known for using photoshop though to make new announcements seem further along than they actually are, so I would expect a lot of the same here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidw Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 40 minutes ago, Legend said: Its not really. They are keeping the profit to themselves . Quite a shrewd business move but a bit of a gamble . Assumes people will readily take to ordering on line instead of trotting down to their model shop That's why I consider it bizarre. We ( modellers, train nuts whatever we call ourselves) tend to like to see before we buy. The marketing would have to be pretty aggressive to put it in the public eye. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pmorgancym Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 6 minutes ago, Talltim said: These are all European models, except maybe the 66 if you are being extra picky (I would never do that!) Hornby have also been producing mainland European models in TT for a few years, since they bought Arnold. Is there a TT 66 in their European range? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pmorgancym Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 1 minute ago, davidw said: That's why I consider it bizarre. We ( modellers, train nuts whatever we call ourselves) tend to like to see before we buy. The marketing would have to be pretty aggressive to put it in the public eye. Let's be fair outside of our little.corner of the world people.ha e taken to buying pretty much everything online. And the pre order concept is well established for model railways now. 1 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HonestTom Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 1 minute ago, nightstar.train said: The A4s, A3s and Pullman coaches are certainly real, we saw them chuffing around in the video. Hornby are well known for using photoshop though to make new announcements seem further along than they actually are, so I would expect a lot of the same here. Since everything seems to be a duplicate of their 00 range, I'd imagine that's what they've done here. 1 minute ago, davidw said: That's why I consider it bizarre. We ( modellers, train nuts whatever we call ourselves) tend to like to see before we buy. The marketing would have to be pretty aggressive to put it in the public eye. I wonder if they'll be taking it along to shows. A layout might help to convince a wary potential customer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pmorgancym Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, nightstar.train said: The A4s, A3s and Pullman coaches are certainly real, we saw them chuffing around in the video. Hornby are well known for using photoshop though to make new announcements seem further along than they actually are, so I would expect a lot of the same here. I couldn't sit through Kohler, it's a cruel and unusual punishment I'm not putting myself through! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaughan45 Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 Unfortunately, the early BR wagon samples appear to include errors that are in their OO gauge models such as 10ft wheelbase on private owner plank wagons etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Moxy Posted October 10, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 10, 2022 7 minutes ago, Pmorgancym said: A few thoughts.... Surprised they didn't didn't revive the Triang name. They no longer own the Triang brand name. It was sold off during one their parent company's bankruptcies early 1970's (I think). 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HonestTom Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 1 minute ago, vaughan45 said: Unfortunately, the early BR wagon samples appear to include errors that are in their OO gauge models such as 10ft wheelbase on private owner plank wagons etc. Probably because they're using photos of their 00 models. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Moxy Posted October 10, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, Pmorgancym said: Is there a TT 66 in their European range? No, or perhaps the answer to that is 'not yet!' Hornby do have a European TT range through the Arnold brand, so maybe the UK 66 will make its way into the Arnold range as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted October 10, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 10, 2022 55 minutes ago, Tartaruga said: And it is a good size for people with less space and bigger than N for smaller fingers. I'm really surprised how much they have been are going for it; I for one am impressed. I hope they make some European models too. 🐢 Hornby's Arnold brand does TT120, although nothing showing for this year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 Just now, Moxy said: They no longer own the Triang brand name. It was sold off during one their parent company's bankruptcies early 1970's (I think). Cough. https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/collections/triang They also used it on some of the retro models such as Rocket. Jason 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Legend Posted October 10, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 10, 2022 The argument against the original TT was that model shops / retailers (I suppose there were more toy shops these days) didn't want to devote space selling both OO and TT ranges. I suppose there would have been confusion for general stores without knowledge of model railways having two systems to sell. Perhaps that's one of the drivers in selling this only direct. I still think the major driver is they will retain a larger % of retail price as profit. Really an interesting approach. Not risk free,but calculated and for once with Hornby I have to say a clever piece of marketing. It takes a lot to get me excited these days (I know sad isn't it) - but this has! What puzzles me is where they have got all this capacity from. I presume it's a factory in China, but do we know where this is made? It's certainly a new chapter for the company. They are going for it big time. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Moxy Posted October 10, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, Steamport Southport said: Cough. https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/collections/triang They also used it on some of the retro models such as Rocket. Jason Thanks, didn't know Triang was back with Oxford. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteamingWales Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 I can certainly see the trainset value with these but beyond that I'm not sure? Then again, a quick look at the catalogue, you could put together a nice little S&C scene with the Dent Station models and associated rolling stock. Mixed freight hauled by a Black 5 (phase 3/4) and an express with a Duchess or Brit? Just need to use a bit of imagination! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium spamcan61 Posted October 10, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 10, 2022 20 minutes ago, Pmorgancym said: Why is the 66 so cheap?? Because somebody else had already announced one. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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