2750Papyrus Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 Just a thought. If Hornby are contemplating issuing fictitious liveries, Great Eastern blue might be appropriate for the most prestigious East Anglian service.... 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold palmsticks Posted February 18, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 18, 2023 On 16/02/2023 at 13:36, 2750Papyrus said: Just a thought. If Hornby are contemplating issuing fictitious liveries, Great Eastern blue might be appropriate for the most prestigious East Anglian service.... With "N E" on the tender for Thompson fans! Also see: https://www.lner.info/forums/viewtopic.php?t=13587 5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manna Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 G'Day Folks In a early post on this thread, I said a Streamlined B17 turned up at Kings Cross, but couldn't find the pic, well I've found it, I think it's 'City of London' manna 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Downer Posted June 30, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 30, 2023 These locos seem to have gone up from £209.99 to £249.99, a 20% hike. Plus they’re still not expected for at least eighteen months. I think I’ve lost interest in buying one. 3 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toby_tl10 Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 24 minutes ago, Downer said: These locos seem to have gone up from £209.99 to £249.99, a 20% hike. Plus they’re still not expected for at least eighteen months. I think I’ve lost interest in buying one. Thanks for the heads up. Is this Hornby's standard practice now? Announce a pre-order item and up the price by 20% (or 10% twice) before it arrives into stock. What purpose does it serve, other than to highlight their incompetence in pricing their own products? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 3 hours ago, toby_tl10 said: Thanks for the heads up. Is this Hornby's standard practice now? Announce a pre-order item and up the price by 20% (or 10% twice) before it arrives into stock. What purpose does it serve, other than to highlight their incompetence in pricing their own products? Might be worth watching the news before you blame Hornby.... Not my first choice of news source, but handy. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/topics/cljev4jz3pjt Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted June 30, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 30, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Steamport Southport said: Might be worth watching the news before you blame Hornby.... Not my first choice of news source, but handy. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/topics/cljev4jz3pjt Jason Gosh tell me about it… In 2.5 years weve gone from R40141 Rocket 3rd coach at £16.99 , to a £90 (£30 ea) three pack in 2022, to a cool £120 for 2 rocket coaches (£59.50 ea) https://uk.Hornby.com/products/lmr-coach-pack-wellington-globe-queen-adelaides-coach-era-1-r40357 I make that about 250% inflation in 2.5 years, for what is a basic 4 wheeled generic wagon. By comparison, a the price of Gold was £1333 an ounce by end of November 2020, its £1514 an ounce today. An ounce of gold in Nov 2020 would buy 78 R40141 wagons Today an ounce of gold would buy 25 wagons (12 sets). better order that B17 now, its a bargain 🙂 Edited June 30, 2023 by adb968008 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted June 30, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 30, 2023 2 hours ago, adb968008 said: better order that B17 now, its a bargain But it will be £300+ when it arrives.......☹️ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toby_tl10 Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 6 hours ago, Steamport Southport said: Might be worth watching the news before you blame Hornby.... Not my first choice of news source, but handy. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/topics/cljev4jz3pjt Jason Might be worth sending the link to Margate. They seem to be the one oblivious to the cost of living crisis since they can't price their products adequately. I struggle to name another model railway manufacturer who *quietly* increased the price by 20% halfway through pre-order. If you can't foresee future circumstances, just set the price as TBA until you can. If you announced a pre-order price, stick to it. That's how every other manufacturer does it, but I suppose Hornby wants to maintain their uniqueness in the industry. If you really have to impose a price increase halfway through pre-order, maybe at least try to speak to your customers? I don't know whether they contacted those who already pre-ordered it as I'm not one of those people, but they certainly don't want to communicate to their potential customers i.e. those who haven't pre-ordered it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toby_tl10 Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 7 hours ago, adb968008 said: Gosh tell me about it… In 2.5 years weve gone from R40141 Rocket 3rd coach at £16.99 , to a £90 (£30 ea) three pack in 2022, to a cool £120 for 2 rocket coaches (£59.50 ea) https://uk.Hornby.com/products/lmr-coach-pack-wellington-globe-queen-adelaides-coach-era-1-r40357 Not to disagree with your message, but R40357 appears to be 3 coaches instead of 2? 1. Wellington 2. Globe 3. Queen Adelaide's coach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PeterStiles Posted July 1, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 1, 2023 4 hours ago, toby_tl10 said: quietly* increased the price by 20% halfway through pre-order. But, if you pre-ordered through Hornby they honour the original price quoted... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Bucoops Posted July 1, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 1, 2023 (edited) Markits wheelset £84 (this was for a B12 so assuming similar for a B17/5) Comet chassis £34.50 (can use a Hornby one) B17/5 resin body from ebay £54 Hornby tender chassis from ebay £5 Paint, transfers and handrail knobs - £20? Motor and gearbox £25-£30 Just under £225 to build your own. Not everyone wants to do that of course but it's been said recently that RTR has started working out cheaper than building a kit. Edited July 1, 2023 by Bucoops Forgot motor and gearbox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widnes Model Centre Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 In fairness to Hornby, they informed retailers fairly recently of the price increase as well as the price increase on the LNER Coronation Coaches. A casual glance seems to indicate that retailers have adjusted their prices. Reason given was manufacturing inflation. From that l understood that prices had gone up in China. Not much they can do about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted July 1, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 1, 2023 Numerous reasons for price increases particularly on imported goods due to changes in the value of the £. If a company gets its currency hedging wrong that will feed through to pricing. Oddly despite increasing prices a while back due toi higher shipping costs Hornby don't seem to have taken advantage of reduced shipping costs to limit price increase percentages. But whatever we think or say what we do know is that Hornby is in a poor financial position and it therefore needs to get money in . Price increases are a way of achieving that provided they bring in more than any loss of sales caused by the higher prices. And it looks like the company has realised that price resistance in one of it markets has cost it sales - not that I think that will feed through to hi-fi models. And don't forget that notwithstanding numerous moans about their pricing Bachmann increased their prices and conbsequently returned to profitability. Maybe Hornby hope they can do the same - in some of their markets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boleyn Road Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 There were some samples at Warley this weekend - looks promising! 12 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerzilla Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 (edited) Hang on...they said it would be on sale in winter 2023! We all knew you could add a year or two to that. Edited November 26, 2023 by rogerzilla 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Parker Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 From Warley 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Johan DC Posted November 29, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 29, 2023 Waiting for this one to finish the streamline-up! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold palmsticks Posted November 29, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 29, 2023 11 hours ago, Phil Parker said: From Warley I dunno, there's s'thing not quite right about it... I think it's because the livery is wrong - its just not the right shade of crimson lake... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted November 29, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 29, 2023 6 hours ago, Johan DC said: Waiting for this one to finish the streamline-up! After this they move on to streamlined ”what could have beens”… Streamlined A1, Streamlined A3 etc… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2750Papyrus Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 10 hours ago, adb968008 said: After this they move on to streamlined ”what could have beens”… Streamlined A1, Streamlined A3 etc… Ivatt atlantic... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HExpressD Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 Streamlined GWR King to complete both the streamlined and oddball line up 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Fair Oak Junction Posted November 30, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 30, 2023 (edited) Don't forget the horrendous mock up streamlined/air-smoothed Schools class 😄 Edit: Yes, I know it never left the works in that condition but you can't tell me it wouldn't sell 😂 Edited November 30, 2023 by Fair Oak Junction 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Downer Posted November 30, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 30, 2023 Getting back to the B17/5 - is this loco simply ill-proportioned, or does it just look that way in comparison with the more familiar A4s? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black 5 Bear Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 On 30/06/2023 at 18:02, toby_tl10 said: Thanks for the heads up. Is this Hornby's standard practice now? Announce a pre-order item and up the price by 20% (or 10% twice) before it arrives into stock. What purpose does it serve, other than to highlight their incompetence in pricing their own products? Personally, I buy very few Hornby products now save two HD A4's that are currently on pre-order. When you actually compare the value for money/quality and fixed pricing from Accurascale, Rapido and others, it's a no brainer. Hornbys pricing policy is the reason why many items remain unsold and end up heavily discounted at retailers! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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