Hroth Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 22 minutes ago, DK123GWR said: And Hornby had the page for a new product/range up on their website (albeit without any specific items listed), since taken down. They havn't learned then. They did that a couple of years ago. AYMod had to go around deleting posts about it... 2 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham_Muz Posted January 9, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 9, 2023 3 hours ago, Hroth said: I'm not blarting, but a quick Google will reveal at least one retailer has jumped the gun. If you're the sort who minutely examines your Christmas presents to try and find out what's concealed under the wrapping, then that's your best bet! You need to read the retailers actual page to see that no gun has been actually jumped. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AY Mod Posted January 9, 2023 Moderators Share Posted January 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, Hroth said: AYMod had to go around deleting posts about it... And, still, we're the bad boys. Never mind that a reference to some of the information has been on Hornby's Facebook page for a few days. 🤬 I really don't enjoy this time of the year anymore. 15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 There are quite a few retailer 2023 pages, but from what I can see they are the 2022 carryover items 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 1 minute ago, AY Mod said: And, still, we're the bad boys. Never mind that a reference to some of the information has been on Hornby's Facebook page for a few days. 🤬 I really don't enjoy this time of the year anymore. When they announced TT and said announcements would be all year round I thought at last they've learnt their lessons, but apparently they have only learnt it in small scale. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted January 9, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 9, 2023 I’ve seen the announcements, a coca cola livery 800 unit and an only fools and horses class 91 called ‘Dave’ were unexpected that’s for sure! Joking apart well done to everyone on here who does know but hasn’t spoiled it for us who don’t 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Griffin Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, big jim said: only fools and horses class 91 called ‘Dave’ Surely it would be 50021 wouldn't it? 😀😀 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 5 minutes ago, Graham_Muz said: You need to read the retailers actual page to see that no gun has been actually jumped. The one who's page I looked at did actually list at least one currently unannounced item, complete with R number. Others were items announced in at least the past two years and yet to be delivered. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rovex Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 I blame the leak on the Palace, it's obviously intended to distract attention from Harry's dreadful book launch 1 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium tommyliam021 Posted January 9, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 9, 2023 Will there actually be an announcement video by SK this year? Hornby social media just says to check the website at 7am. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nathan70000 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 It's become quite a common marketing tactic to deliberately orchestrate "leaks" to build up hype and speculation prior to big announcements. I don't know whether that's the case here, but it wouldn't surprise me if Hornby tried it. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin_R Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 1 hour ago, franciswilliamwebb said: Digital version isn’t out yet, either. Publication date is 11th this month, as opposed to the usual first Thursday of the month. My digital version of Hornby Mag arrived last week, I’ve kept very quiet about its contents but I guess tomorrow will be fun and games on the web….. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Parker Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 Just now, nathan70000 said: It's become quite a common marketing tactic to deliberately orchestrate "leaks" to build up hype and speculation prior to big announcements. I don't know whether that's the case here, but it wouldn't surprise me if Hornby tried it. More cock-up than conspiracy I'm afraid. It's all to do with the publication dates of magazines, something it's surprisingly easy to get wrong if you are close to the wire. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted January 9, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 9, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Phil Parker said: More cock-up than conspiracy I'm afraid. It's all to do with the publication dates of magazines, something it's surprisingly easy to get wrong if you are close to the wire. They seem to get it wrong most years lately. If they went back to the Christmas announcement, or 1st Jan announcement then surely that would negate any early leaks. Edited January 9, 2023 by Hilux5972 2 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Parker Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, Hilux5972 said: They seem to get it wrong most years lately. If they went back to the Christmas announcement, or 1st Jan announcement then surely that would negate any early leaks. No. It would just change the date. The information would simply be in an earlier edition of the magazine, which could just as easily leak out. Worse, @AY Mod and I would have to work on Christmas or New Years day. And we would be really grumpy about that. More to the point - this isn't Hornby's mistake, I'm not sure how you think it is. It's an error made by the publications concerned. 5 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithMacdonald Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 2 hours ago, Barry Ten said: That's definitely the wrong shade of green even though I'm looking at it on a computer 2 hours ago, Vistisen said: Or comparing it to a faded black and white photo/ 70 + year old memory That is, of course, part of the initiation ritual for Apprentice brethren of the Elucidated Brethren of the Counted Rivet. 4 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombatofludham Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 Serious face for a minute, given the problems publishers must have with getting publications out at set dates in the immediate post Christmas period, which seems to make such accidental "spoilers" almost inevitable, why on Earth do Hornby still insist on this whole "big launch" farrago every year? In the internet age and with social media leaking like the Titanic, surely Hornby need to move on and adapt the approach pretty much every other manufacturer is following, of announcing when stuff is on the slow boat from China? it seems every year we have this accidental release of "gen", which of course is hugely entertaining for those who like secret squirreling but it does seem a bit old fashioned. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold franciswilliamwebb Posted January 9, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 9, 2023 12 minutes ago, Martin_R said: My digital version of Hornby Mag arrived last week, I’ve kept very quiet about its contents but I guess tomorrow will be fun and games on the web….. Looks like staff at my local internet sorting office are on strike then😉 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithMacdonald Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 44 minutes ago, big jim said: an only fools and horses class 91 called ‘Dave’ Also one called "Trigger", a new Manor called "Broom Manor", and an Oxford Models of a yellow Trotters Independent Traders 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted January 9, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 9, 2023 17 minutes ago, Phil Parker said: More to the point - this isn't Hornby's mistake, I'm not sure how you think it is. It's an error made by the publications concerned. I wasn’t saying it’s Hornby’s mistake. If they went back to the 25th or 1st dates for announcements, magazines released in the 2nd week of January wouldn’t be released before announcement. I don’t know of any printers that work on Christmas or new years. At least here in New Zealand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Markwj Posted January 9, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 9, 2023 Does it really matter in the great scheme of things if the embargo gets broken- its not the official secrets act and it actually generates more discussion and debate around Hornby keeping the name to the fore. I suspect they are not that bothered over in Margate. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Parker Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 1 minute ago, Hilux5972 said: I wasn’t saying it’s Hornby’s mistake. If they went back to the 25th or 1st dates for announcements, magazines released in the 2nd week of January wouldn’t be released before announcement. I don’t know of any printers that work on Christmas or new years. At least here in New Zealand. One of the leaks was from a digital editon - no printers involved. There's also the chance that the printers will rush through an issue before Christmas, it's happened in the past to BRM. If that issue then finds it's way into the post, you can be sure that the one time you don't want efficient delivery, it will happen. Regardless, you might be happy for me to work on Christmas day moderating the discussions, I am less keen so they can stick with the current system as far as I am concerned. It's bad enough we'll have to be sitting on the forum overnight... 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Parker Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, Markwj said: Does it really matter in the great scheme of things if the embargo gets broken- its not the official secrets act and it actually generates more discussion and debate around Hornby keeping the name to the fore. I suspect they are not that bothered over in Margate. In the overall scheme of things, possibly not, but it is up to Hornby to decide that and they may have good reasons, such as getting the website readyt to take orders that would influence this. Your knowledge of how bothered they are is different to mine. They certainly seemed bothered a few days ago by email. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Phil Parker said: Worse, @AY Mod and I would have to work on Christmas or New Years day. And we would be really grumpy about that. Surely not, a bit of automation to release the thread at the right time on the day. What could go wrong, the good natured bunch of never moaners on RMWeb would all play nicely all day, no need to mod.......🤣 Edited January 9, 2023 by woodenhead My smiley is only showing at 25% 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rovex Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 Don't know if I'm allowed to say this but having seen the leak, I can safely say that my predictions were 100% accurate Please delete if not allowed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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