charliepetty Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 On 08/02/2023 at 22:03, Bob83a said: The description just says speaker fitted, no clue as to whether if it is prewired, however because the decoder fitting is a next18 then the speaker should be prewired to the main PCB and just plugging in a decoder should be enough. With regards to the Farish model it depended on what type of connection was fitted to the model, if it had a 6 or 8 pin connection then the speaker cannot be connected to the decoder via pins on the connector (there are not enough pins) , hence separate wires from the speaker to the decoder direct. With Plux, Next18 or 21 pin connection then there are pins on the connection specifically for the speaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliepetty Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 There is a speaker fitted,I tried a sound decoder our Legomanbiffo sound decoder in it today, but as normal with Bachmann prefitted speakers the are poorly designed and cannot be hardly heard, shame really. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Waterton Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 I intended to purchase the Regional Railways 144 and anticipated having to do a bit of work to make the weathering acceptable but having inspected it up close yesterday I didn't bother. The weathering is terrible. Hopefully in the future a clean one will appear! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
APOLLO Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 If it doesn't work you can always do THIS to it (Then park it on an overbridge !!). https://www.keybuses.com/article/pacer-repurposed Brit15 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRman Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 1 hour ago, APOLLO said: If it doesn't work you can always do THIS to it (Then park it on an overbridge !!). https://www.keybuses.com/article/pacer-repurposed Brit15 That looks more like it should be something for April 1st! 😅 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfsup Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 6 hours ago, SRman said: That looks more like it should be something for April 1st! 😅 Spoiler Alert : It Was! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfsup Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 (edited) 15 hours ago, Great Waterton said: I intended to purchase the Regional Railways 144 and anticipated having to do a bit of work to make the weathering acceptable but having inspected it up close yesterday I didn't bother. The weathering is terrible. Hopefully in the future a clean one will appear! Funny enough, your not the first person I've seen who has said that. It seems that, for reasons unknown, they've really chosen to shoot themselves in the foot with some terrible weathering on these. I did think about the GWR one myself, but having both seen the weathering applied close up and the bizarreness around the model, I would rather wait for an upgraded model from Realtrack to be honest! Edited February 12, 2023 by surfsup 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Waterton Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 3 hours ago, surfsup said: Funny enough, your not the first person I've seen who has said that. It seems that, for reasons unknown, they've really chosen to shoot themselves in the foot with some terrible weathering on these! I did think about the GWR one myself, but having both seen the weathering applied close up and the bizarreness around the model, I would rather wait for one from Realtrack to be honest! It does seem to depend on the light and the weathering varies accordingly but the spray all over in one colour approach looks awful. To me at least, it might well appeal to others. The Regional Railways one is so splattered you can barely see through the windows and there's more dirt on the bodysides than there is on the underframe! I appreciate there was the odd occasion when they really were dirty but it was very rare and in my experience they were generally kept quite clean. Even into the late 1990s they didn't look bad at all. The small handful of photographs online of dirty ones are also a totally different look to how this model has been released so quite what they're aiming for is beyond me. 😂 And as for the other liveries that have been weathered, I've NEVER seen any of them EVER look as filthy as that, even in winter. It's a very bizarre situation because as we've seen Bachmann have offered some absolutely stunning factory weathering jobs in recent years. Even the EFE 58 in faded Railfreight Red Stripe looked good. But these Pacers? Terrible. Such a disappointment. Nevermind though, hopefully at some stage we'll see some clean ones. And if not Realtrack's will be clean. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ruggedpeak Posted February 13, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 13, 2023 I'm content to wait and see if the ATW versions end up in the bargain section at various retailers, and then have a go at de-weathering. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Alan Oliver Posted February 13, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 13, 2023 They seem to be selling very well showing as limited stock at quite a few retailers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Phil Mc Posted February 13, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 13, 2023 Presumably being bought by people that haven't seen one up close..... The weathering is almost certainly the worst 'factory' version I have ever seen !! Cheers, Phil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted February 13, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 13, 2023 42 minutes ago, Phil Mc said: Presumably being bought by people that haven't seen one up close..... The weathering is almost certainly the worst 'factory' version I have ever seen !! Cheers, Phil. Wow, that must be going some to beat some of the terrible Heljan weathering. Roy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Phil Mc Posted February 13, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 13, 2023 9 minutes ago, Roy Langridge said: Wow, that must be going some to beat some of the terrible Heljan weathering. Roy I know what you mean, but I stand by my statement !! The GWR one I saw for sale at Doncaster on Saturday was truly horrible, I'm not sure how they managed to achieve a masking shadow behind the cab front lamp bracket that was at least twice, if not three times, the width of the bracket !! 😲 Cheers, Phil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold franciswilliamwebb Posted February 13, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 13, 2023 They wouldn’t look out of place on rail head treatment trains😜 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dj_crisp Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Phil Mc said: I know what you mean, but I stand by my statement !! The GWR one I saw for sale at Doncaster on Saturday was truly horrible, I'm not sure how they managed to achieve a masking shadow behind the cab front lamp bracket that was at least twice, if not three times, the width of the bracket !! 😲 Cheers, Phil. Yeah! Impressive stuff and has got me confused! Still the weathering being so bad has saved me being tempted with one just because I have fond memories of commuting on the GWR ones around Bristol. I remember them having clean sides but in winter the windows being steamed up. They've almost cracked that bit ;) Edited February 13, 2023 by dj_crisp Typo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold JohnR Posted February 14, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 14, 2023 I have to say the weathering has put me off - I'd like to see them do a pristine version. I wouldn't have bought one for myself, but my eldest loves all things GWR - modern image that is - and while he probably wouldn't have been that bothered about the weathering, it would bother me, and its my wallet! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Covkid Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, JohnR said: I have to say the weathering has put me off - I'd like to see them do a pristine version. I wouldn't have bought one for myself, but my eldest loves all things GWR - modern image that is - and while he probably wouldn't have been that bothered about the weathering, it would bother me, and its my wallet! Have to agree, and having seen the youtube clip further up the page I have to ask what EFE / Bachmann / whoever were thinking. As mentioned it looks like it has been on an RHTT circuit for a month, or else the St Phillips Marsh carriage washers have been OOS for weeks Not for me, even though I prefer weathered trains to pristine ones Edited February 14, 2023 by Covkid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 96701 Posted February 14, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 14, 2023 2 hours ago, Covkid said: Have to agree, and having seen the youtube clip further up the page I have to ask what EFE / Bachmann / whoever were thinking. As mentioned it looks like it has been on an RHTT circuiot for a month, or else the St Phillips Marsh carriage washers have been OOS for weeks Not for me, even though I prefer weathered trains to pristine ones I have only seen mucky trains during cold spells when the depots switch the washers off to prevent them freezing, so I wouldn't run one of those filthy things when the model trees are green. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cs233 Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 Seems the Regional Railways version is selling fast despite the weathering. It is already sold out at Rails, would order immediately if you intend to buy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Markwj Posted February 14, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 14, 2023 5 minutes ago, cs233 said: Seems the Regional Railways version is selling fast despite the weathering. It is already sold out at Rails, would order immediately if you intend to buy. Was thinking the same earlier today so ordered one from derails earlier today, not sure if they have anymore left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Alan Oliver Posted February 14, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 14, 2023 Monk Bar Model shop are showing RR 144011 in stock if your looking for one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted February 15, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 15, 2023 On 13/02/2023 at 23:20, franciswilliamwebb said: They wouldn’t look out of place on rail head treatment trains😜 Imagine that as a future career for pacers. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted February 15, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 15, 2023 Demonstrating their is a strong demand for multiple units in the right liveries. Even with an interesting coat of weathering. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ruggedpeak Posted February 15, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 15, 2023 Clearly they are selling, hopefully they or Realtrack will release some non-weathered ones in due course. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Waterton Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 Another issue for me on the T&W Pacer 143 and the Regional Railways 144 is that the front lighting is wrong too, which irks me on a £200+ model. Presumably the upcoming (at some point) newly tooled Realtrack offering would address this. A contributory factor of EFE's good sales could well be that some (or all?) of these liveries haven't been produced before and therefore people are jumping on them. Again I find this completely understandable. I did always wonder why Realtrack never made another batch of these after their initial run/s? With different numbers and destinations, naturally, but I'm positive they would have sold well. To me personally it's always felt like a case of "We've made them, that's your lot, move on" which seems an odd way to go about things. However, I'm certainly no businessman so perhaps someone knows otherwise...? 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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