Il Grifone Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Have any subscribers had any experience of sending a real dog's breakfast back for a replacement? I took a 'Coronation' back to Asda (for misaligned gold lining on the firebox), but that probably doesn't count. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiffy2 Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 I'm using it for weathering practice... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
69843 Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Brand new locomotives going back to the works? The fitters must be having the day off! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiffy2 Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 They certainly were. When I took the loco off the base I found that the pin on the tender connection was crushed over at 45º - it had just been forced down, presumably when screwed (how apt). The brake standard was also at a slope. If there was meant to be a firebox door at any stage it's not there now. The steam bonnet cap is glued on* - but about a mm too high. The motion is neatly clipped in to the wheels - not at all... Most people have been complaining about the accuracy of the models, but this is different; however accurate it is or isn't this is an abysmal standard of quality control. The V isn't anywhere near as bad, but the smokebox door is fitted wrongly. I hope this is 'teething troubles'. It's hard to fix a fault when it's the entire cylinder and motion missing *About the only part that is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightengine Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 Before long we will be calling for a Battle of Britain class named "Biggles" or a Jubliee called "Kyrpton". How about the old one 'Biggles Flies Undone'. I wonder how many on here know where that one comes from? Made me smile anyway, thank you Archchancellor! Cheers Phil Or 'Street Starfish'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John M Upton Posted April 27, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 27, 2014 (edited) Didn't a denamed withdrawn School's class actually have Borstal chalked on the blank plate where the name plate was or is that railway urban myth? Edited April 27, 2014 by John M Upton Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 My local newsagent informs me that he's given up stocking the GBL series (he went up to issue 3), as there wasn't any demand for it. None of the other newsagents in the district stock it either..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
69843 Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 Not trying to jump the gun, but amongst various plans for locomotives in this series, I'm planning to do a scrap Deltic, and I've found some nice reference pics if anyone else is looking to do the same: 55003 sans most of the roof https://www.flickr.com/photos/13359576@N00/2938988930 55004 with its nose cut off, exposing some of the inner workings https://www.flickr.com/photos/63513902@N05/6924242249/ 55021 sans cab and roof, showing some of the internal bracing for the bodywork http://www.napier-chronicles.co.uk/21_9-82.htm https://www.flickr.com/photos/96915808@N03/9050704706/ 55011 minus nose, roof and rear cab https://www.flickr.com/photos/blue-diesels/4324195965/ 55001 minus roof and rear cab https://www.flickr.com/photos/blue-diesels/9833328173/ 55007 nearly cut up https://www.flickr.com/photos/55727763@N02/5164887298/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/55727763@N02/8037200627/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 ....Horsetan's comments seem to fly in the face of what I've found in the Dorset, Devon and south Hants (Southampton) area .... Dorset / Devon / South Hants is a bit different to my part of North West London. Getting hold of the Jewish Chronicle here is no problem, though unfortunately the JC doesn't give away free knock-off models Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickL2008 Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 Dorset / Devon / South Hants is a bit different to my part of North West London. Getting hold of the Jewish Chronicle here is no problem, though unfortunately the JC doesn't give away free knock-off models WH Smiths in Greenford Westway Cross sells them still NL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannogeezer Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 Hi there. I've been looking at this forum since buying my first GBL loco, and it's about time I joined. I've just bought the 9F 'Evening Star' (my 6th model now) and what a truly awful specimen it really is !! How can there be so much silver over spray on the wheels ? The gap between the tender and the loco is far to great in my opinion, even with the coupling pin removed, but at least the overall finish is fairly acceptable, although I think the lined boiler is far to red in colour, and not lined orange as it should be and doesn't even come close to matching the dark red lining on the tender. Right then, that's all I wanted to say !! Cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiffy2 Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 But was it all there? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrel Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 Looking forward to the review weathering man. I was thinking of buying an extra model of evening star to repaint into a more normal filthy member of the class. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catkins Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 I've had a quick look at the 9F, and I can tell that it is based on the old Hornby tender drive variant, complete with the raised plastic marks for the tender transfer. As for the standard of decoration, it struck me as being very - erm, silver, but if the people doing the painting are following a picture of the example model, in this case a 1970s Hornby loco, then I am not suprised that there are some errors. I don't think I'll be keeping one of these ones. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted April 30, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 30, 2014 Things seem to bode well for the Deltic then? They seem to have settled down to a pattern, cr@p followed by a model to drool over. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 (edited) Hi Horsetan, How would your area of west London be different if a stocking policy of a shop chain is decided nationally at head office level. Seems to me this would make all parts of the country the same as far as that chain is concerned. And is Greenford as mentioned by another poster not west London?. There is nothing to be had from the local newsagents (non-WHS) in Golders Green/Hendon. By contrast, if I want a copy of the JC or Ha'aretz, or any other periodical catering for the (Orthodox) Jewish community or anything related to Israel, I'm spoilt for choice. As far as WHS is concerned, I think their policy - supposedly national - is not consistently applied. If Greenford has it, why has Ealing (where I work) not done the same? Are they hiding it and hoping the thing will go away? ....it might be as well to not build up ones hopes too much about the Deltic. If you're really unlucky, it might be a clone of the Kitmaster / Dapol Prototype Deltic. Edited April 30, 2014 by Horsetan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_mcfarlane Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 If you're really unlucky, it might be a clone of the Kitmaster / Dapol Prototype Deltic. Or the Hornby-Dublo one. I'm wondering if there are multiple Chinese factories involved in producing these models. Since there's not going to be a deliberate decision by the publishers to alternate poor quality models with better quality models, the most likely explanation is that they are sourcing them from two different factories. One factory produces reasonable quality and the other doesn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWeatheringMan Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 Hi Pete, One factory doing the actual moulding but more than one person doing the tool generation is my bet. The variation, for better or worse, will continue. Regards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Boar Fell Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 Hello, Thanks for the review WeatheringMan, any chance of some photos? Cheers, Wild Boar Fell Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrel Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 Thanks for the review weathering man. I just popped round the corner and bought one, one thing you missed in your review is under the smokebox there are two moulded on head lights in completely the wrong place. They could prove difficult to remove. Fortunately the smoke deflecters on my model were loose and I was able to pull them off that should make it easier to carve off the moulded lamps. The name plate on one side of my model was badly printed with one corner missing, this then will be the model that gets repainted BR black and weathered. Time to get the knife and files and paint brushes out. Darrel 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 ....wonder if some posters look for something to take issue with simply to add to their posting totals .... You don't seriously think this, do you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrel Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 I have to say the plastic used is pretty tough the moulded lamps are a b$@r to carve off. I recently carved off the handrails on a Dapol kit for a pug and they were nice and soft plastic. But this ! There is a mould seam along the top of the boiler as well that could do with removing. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kazmierczak Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 Would it not be more cost-effective to buy the Dapol (ex-Airfix) kit of the 9F, rather than the GBL plinth model? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knobhead Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 Not the prettiest model, I guess. Plenty of modelling fun can still be had for less than a tenner, if you are on friendly terms with the the toolbox, though. Regards, Stefan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catkins Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 Should the cab have that right angle at the bottom / front? http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/uploads/monthly_04_2014/post-10250-0-04022700-1398866977.jpg http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/uploads/monthly_04_2014/post-10250-0-27999700-1398866991.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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