What have you done with your Keyser kit

[Richard_A]

A question regarding the Alan GIbson milled frames,

 

are the frame spacers listed on their website designed to be used with these frames?

[hayfield]

1 hour ago, rka said:

A question regarding the Alan GIbson milled frames,

 

are the frame spacers listed on their website designed to be used with these frames?

 

Yes, You can use alternatives, which may need shortening a tad as these frames are slightly thicker than the normal etched frames

 

Don't forget these frames can either be ordered with the hornblock slots milled out or holes drilled for axle bushes

Edited March 17, 2023 by hayfield

[41516]

After a few weeks of not really feeling like doing anything in particular, I decided that getting something, anything from the boxfile of part-finished items closer to the paintshop would be a good idea. The K's SECR D1421 van came to hand, typical K's, not bad from the solebar upwards. 

 

Some liberty has been taken based on the few photos in Southern Wagons Vol.3, I've assumed a wagon that has gained the extra bodywork strapping (as supplied by K's) and with the addition of the door bracing seen on some SECR vans later in life. 

 

Everything below the solebar has been largely replaced with approximation of what should be there as there seems to be a lack of SECR parts available, so I wouldn't look too closely! Buffers and springs are 51L H&B, brakes assumed to be a replacment of the wooden brake block with iron shoe as a bit of a fudge to get it finished.  Axleboxes made as generic as possible in the absence of low-cost SECR ones.  I've put the wagon label clip in the wrong place as I was looking at the drawing for the 1419....horsehook still to add.

 

Roof still needs a final tweak, vents from Ratio.   Anyone know of another source for tall vents? Most available are the later lower profile ones.

 

 

 

I do have another, this will be more as-built, with the strappinbg removed and a wooden brake shoe, possibly done with a direct acting brake for variety.  Strangely, the master has been damaged at some point as the right-most vertical post was missing on both sides (K's branding not inside this one, Nu-Cast perhaps?)

 

 

 

[jwealleans]

22 minutes ago, 41516 said:

Anyone know of another source for tall vents?

 

Roxey as far as i know.

[41516]

Roxey only showing the Markits turned vents and out of stock as well - would be a bit of spoon gold plating using those on a K's van!

[jwealleans]

I'm sure they do a whitemetal one for their LSWR carriage kits, or have done in the past - might be worth an email to Dave.

 

I'm stilll using the Mike Trice ones from Shapeways, but their postage makes those a fairly extreme option.

 

Someone does do the really nice cast brass ones, but I'm afraid I bought them at a show and I can't recall who from.

[DavidStarbuck]

Hi there,

I wonder if anyone can help me with the following.

I'm building a K's Jubilee and wish to paint it in the LMS red similar to the colour carried by 5690 Leander.

I have tried the Humbrol range No 20 but it comes out too pink. I have tried Humbrol RC423 but it seems too dark.

Any recommendations please?

I am living overseas with only very limited access to any modelling material unfortunately.

[kevinlms]

48 minutes ago, DavidStarbuck said:

Hi there,

I wonder if anyone can help me with the following.

I'm building a K's Jubilee and wish to paint it in the LMS red similar to the colour carried by 5690 Leander.

I have tried the Humbrol range No 20 but it comes out too pink. I have tried Humbrol RC423 but it seems too dark.

Any recommendations please?

I am living overseas with only very limited access to any modelling material unfortunately.

RC403 is what is listed as Crimson Lake. Not sure how it's going to get to you overseas though. You need a supplier who sends it by ship.

[Jol Wilkinson]

1 hour ago, DavidStarbuck said:

Hi there,

I wonder if anyone can help me with the following.

I'm building a K's Jubilee and wish to paint it in the LMS red similar to the colour carried by 5690 Leander.

I have tried the Humbrol range No 20 but it comes out too pink. I have tried Humbrol RC423 but it seems too dark.

Any recommendations please?

I am living overseas with only very limited access to any modelling material unfortunately.

What colour undercoat did you use. Red pigments tend to have poor covering power so a red undercoat is best and will also affect to final colour. It might mke the No. 20 less pink.

 

Another problem here is also that you are trying to match a colour which may not be the same as the colours identified as LMS loco red/maroon available from suppliers such as Phoenix Precision or Railmatch, Perhaps you could try mixing your two Humbrol paints to get something closer.

 

 

[Jeff Smith]

Humbrol has discontinued the RC range although the same colour may still be available in their normal range.  Vallejo has several reds that may be suitable but you have to buy them as the colours on computer screens are not very representative.  The same applies to Citadel paints from Games Workshop.

[Steamport Southport]

Many of the car paints are similar to LMS/BR Crimson Lake and they might be easier to get hold of.

 

Damask Red seems familiar. 

 

 

Jason

[DCB]

19 hours ago, DavidStarbuck said:

Hi there,

I wonder if anyone can help me with the following.

I'm building a K's Jubilee and wish to paint it in the LMS red similar to the colour carried by 5690 Leander.

I have tried the Humbrol range No 20 but it comes out too pink. I have tried Humbrol RC423 but it seems too dark.

Any recommendations please?

I am living overseas with only very limited access to any modelling material unfortunately.

Reds are very sensitive to the undercoat, top coat can come out very different with grey, red, black or no undercoat at all. Even full size locos were affected by the number of undercoats, it is unlikely that the BR  Red Duchess and Princess Pacifics were fully stripped and primed and repainted with LMS primers and top coats and varnish between BR Green and BR red paint hence their unusual hue.   Practice on a piece of scrap material with differing primers and numbers of top coats..  Reds also change dramatically with the amount of sunlight.  If you can get a piece of red material to match a friendly car paint shop can get you a match which they can then order, or give you the info to get a can made up, probably looking at £20 or equivalent for 400ml rattle can, should work anywhere in the world where they spray cars..

Edited May 8, 2023 by DCB

[Steamport Southport]

The primer that looks like bauxite for the red. if you are buying the cans, it normally tells you the primer needed on the can.

 

Great for painting white metal and brass wagons if you are modelling BR era.

 

https://www.halfords.com/motoring/paints-and-body-repair/specialist-and-decorative-paints/halfords-enamel-spray-paint-red-primer-300ml-155674.html?

 

I'm pretty sure other countries have an equivalent.

 

 

Jason

[Jeff Smith]

Primer so presumably matt.

[Steamport Southport]

For transfers?

 

It's enamel, just use whatever varnish you would with Humbrol or Revell.

 

 

Jason

[DavidStarbuck]

Thanks to all for your helpful replies :)

I used a matt grey primer from the Humbrol range.

I'll look at getting RC423 if still available. Noting the shipping issue now. Silly really for a water based acrylic.

Edited May 8, 2023 by DavidStarbuck

[roythebus1]

I have a full-size bus that carries a BS Maroon livery. the recommended undercoat for it is a mauve/blue. Crimson and maroon are very transparent colours and to echo what others have said, it does need an undercoat and a couple of top coats.

 

It fades to a muddy brown colour after about 5 years, so don't rely on colour pictures for colour matching. when it's new it looks almost crimson. These days it looks like it's been through a pile of cow dung.

Edited May 10, 2023 by roythebus1

[ovbulleid]

Hi All. I have a trio of Keyser GWR 40 ton coal wagons. Does anyone know where I can source appropriate transfers for the GWR period (late 30’s/ early 40’s) and where I can source replacement buffers as a couple broke while being fitted. Thanks!

[cctransuk]

12 hours ago, ovbulleid said:

Hi All. I have a trio of Keyser GWR 40 ton coal wagons. Does anyone know where I can source appropriate transfers for the GWR period (late 30’s/ early 40’s) and where I can source replacement buffers as a couple broke while being fitted. Thanks!

 

Transfers available from Cambridge Custom Transfers https://www.cctrans.org.uk/transfers.htm - see sheet C89 near the end of the list.

 

Regards,

John Isherwood,

Cambridge Custom Transfers.

[mozzer models]

back in 2011 I did this as a display model

gwr 4mm broad gauge loco by brian mosby, on Flickr

[hayfield]

2 minutes ago, mozzer models said:

back in 2011 I did this as a display model

gwr 4mm broad gauge loco by brian mosby, on Flickr

 

Brian

 

Where is the layout ?. a very nice looking loco well done

[mozzer models]

1 minute ago, hayfield said:

 

Brian

 

Where is the layout ?. a very nice looking loco well done

the loco is on my photo plank I was using at the time 

the loco was built for someone in Spain

[Steamport Southport]

12 hours ago, ovbulleid said:

Hi All. I have a trio of Keyser GWR 40 ton coal wagons. Does anyone know where I can source appropriate transfers for the GWR period (late 30’s/ early 40’s) and where I can source replacement buffers as a couple broke while being fitted. Thanks!

 

Buffers. Try Lanarkshire Model Supplies.

 

http://www.lanarkshiremodels.com/

 

GWR Self Contained with either 13 or 16 inch heads. I'm assuming 16 inch.

 

http://www.lanarkshiremodels.com/lanarkshiremodelsandsupplieswebsite_086.htm

 

 

 

Jason

[Prometheus]

To reduce the absurd weight of this kit, this second one built uses only the sides/frames from the original with the ends and roof being adapted Triang Clerestory parts and additional detail provided by Ratio, various white-metal castings and odds-and-ends from the bits box.

 

The clerestory windows have been plated over and the centre wheel-set rests in a cradle which allows both lateral and radial movement, enabling smooth passage through tight radii. The whole ensemble runs well.

 

 

 

I always thought that this U29 was an odd choice for Keyser to have made, but I'm not complaining! It has a delightful vintage look and the odd survivors had a very long life indeed.

 

Tony

Edited January 5 by Prometheus

[Barclay]

I've been labouring on this 1361 0-6-0ST for months now, and it is finally coming together - CSP chassis & chimney, Gibson safety valve, buffers, injectors, smokebox door handle. Unlike the Coal Tank I can't really recommend this one - too many faults!