RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted May 19, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 19, 2023 7 hours ago, wairoa said: You can all rest easy tonight gentlemen, secure in the knowledge that I have just placed a pre-order for Porterbrook Purple. Sleep well, men, sleep well. I’ve paid just over half for my sound version. Partial.ly is a fantastic way to pay for models and spread the cost over several months when you don’t have the cash in one go. 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium E100 Posted May 19, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 19, 2023 Could make a good April fools idea for them. Allow people to place a preorder. If they get enough by the end of the week then heck they’ll do it. Somewhat similar to Rapido. That being said there’s probably enough real stuff to go at first. Looking in a class 73/9 direction… 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted May 19, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 19, 2023 20 minutes ago, E100 said: Could make a good April fools idea for them. Allow people to place a preorder. If they get enough by the end of the week then heck they’ll do it. Somewhat similar to Rapido. That being said there’s probably enough real stuff to go at first. Looking in a class 73/9 direction… Please no. There is enough demand for prototype liveries and models without adding to it with fictional liveries. Roy 1 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Islesy Posted May 19, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 19, 2023 5 hours ago, E100 said: Could make a good April fools idea for them. Allow people to place a preorder. If they get enough by the end of the week then heck they’ll do it. Sorry @E100 that's never going to happen. No fiction at this manufacturer... 😉 5 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium E100 Posted May 19, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 19, 2023 53 minutes ago, Islesy said: Sorry @E100 that's never going to happen. No fiction at this manufacturer... 😉 I'll leave this here in jest! Partly as I felt this never got quite as much attention as it should have 😋 2 1 1 5 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
philg Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Islesy said: Sorry @E100 that's never going to happen. No fiction at this manufacturer... 😉 And apologies from me for starting this off-reality discussion (I'd certainly not be queuing up to buy a "fake" anyway :)) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold McC Posted May 19, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 19, 2023 56 minutes ago, E100 said: I'll leave this here in jest! Partly as I felt this never got quite as much attention as it should have 😋 The mustard was the wrong mustardyness so it didn't pass QC :) 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Islesy Posted May 19, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 19, 2023 1 hour ago, E100 said: I'll leave this here in jest! Ah, yes, my fault that (in part). Touché! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wairoa Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 I have a fictional layout so I could happily use a fictional livery or two. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scots region Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 50 minutes ago, wairoa said: I have a fictional layout so I could happily use a fictional livery or two. Intercity Swallow would be very handsome on a Deltic. 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted May 23, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 23, 2023 Accurascale have said no to fictitious liveries (thank God), so do we really have to persist in wish-listing what will never happen? Roy 17 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold StuAllen Posted May 23, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 23, 2023 1 hour ago, scots region said: Intercity Swallow would be very handsome on a Deltic. The Class 50 Hood looks good in its Intercity livery that it got in preservation, I wonder if any of the groups that own deltics could be persuaded to make a temporary change of livery? Then the model would prototypical. 😜 4 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted May 23, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 23, 2023 On 19/05/2023 at 02:44, PieGuyRob said: GNER blue with an orange stripe? I will get my coat..... Actually reckon it could wear that pretty well. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damo666 Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 On 18/05/2023 at 21:45, philg said: Makes you wonder if there's a market for fictitious liveries...... InterCity Swallow anyone?? Mind you, not sure how that would match up with Accurascales committment to accuracy and fidelity :) Forget fictitious, I'm looking to replace my fleet of CIE Hymeks (think LIMA did these originally, then Hornby, for the Irish market). With such old tooling, these must be ripe models for the Accurascale treatment. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wairoa Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 (edited) 20 hours ago, Roy Langridge said: Accurascale have said no to fictitious liveries (thank God), so do we really have to persist in wish-listing what will never happen? Roy Why not a fictious livery? We have, OO, a fictious gauge/scale. Besides a company can always change its decision. Edited May 24, 2023 by wairoa 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Type 2 Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 5 minutes ago, wairoa said: Why not a fictious livery? We have, OO, a fictious gauge/scale. Besides a company can always change its decision. Maybe because the factory time can be better used in producing models with a more lucrative return? 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted May 24, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 24, 2023 1 hour ago, wairoa said: Why not a fictious livery? We have, OO, a fictious gauge/scale. Besides a company can always change its decision. For most of us nodelling is about creating the real world in miniature, with some compromises such as track gauge. Fictitious liveries are not a compromise. Scale is not fiction… Roy 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wairoa Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 26 minutes ago, Roy Langridge said: For most of us nodelling is about creating the real world in miniature, with some compromises such as track gauge. Fictitious liveries are not a compromise. Scale is not fiction… Roy So a fake scale/gauge is more acceptable than fake paint? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Type 2 Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 3 minutes ago, wairoa said: So a fake scale/gauge is more acceptable than fake paint? Well modelled OO gauge trackwork can look like the correct gauge, (my friends layout has been described in 2 magazines as EM when it is simply OO), a livery on a loco that was never carried will never looked prototypical, no matter how well it is done. I'm not against fictious liveries but I personally feel that unless a manufacturer has spare capacity at their factory then they should concentrate on prototypical items, whether re-runs or new. If you really want a model in a livery it never carried, you could always support one of the many respray businesses and ask them to do it for you. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toby_tl10 Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 1 hour ago, Type 2 said: Maybe because the factory time can be better used in producing models with a more lucrative return? That is true only if the fictional variants are overproduced by quite a lot and end up in the bargain bin, otherwise if they sell at the same price and at a similar speed, there is no reason why fictional variants give you a less lucrative return. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-BOAF Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 55 minutes ago, toby_tl10 said: That is true only if the fictional variants are overproduced by quite a lot and end up in the bargain bin, otherwise if they sell at the same price and at a similar speed, there is no reason why fictional variants give you a less lucrative return. Its interesting that the Rapido Fictitious APTs appear to have sold slowly and are heavily discounted at a number of retailers. I would suggest anyone doing fictitious liveries of highly detailed models does a very small production run 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted May 24, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 24, 2023 (edited) I'm suspect that Its all about sales and hitting the magic number. Lets say for example… if they need a minimum of 1000, but pre-orders are only 500.. it would be a brave man to push the button on 1000. But if 3 small runs of 200 or so of a fictional livery means you get 100 over the magic number, job done and discount the few left. moral here… if we want it exactly, there needs to be enough customers, or accept a bit of give and take to get there… the alternative is a higher price for those we do want. Fictional liveries arent the only creative solution , weve seen unnumbered basic liveries, even unpainted models in the past. Edited May 24, 2023 by adb968008 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Islesy Posted May 24, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 24, 2023 3 hours ago, wairoa said: Besides a company can always change its decision. It won't 😉 7 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium younGGuns7 Posted May 24, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 24, 2023 Why do these topics disappear into the most bizarre and far off distant lands, can we get back to the real world 3 4 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted May 24, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 24, 2023 2 hours ago, wairoa said: So a fake scale/gauge is more acceptable than fake paint? Yes 1 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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