RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted July 6, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 6, 2023 Going by the images in the magazine, these look pretty good and I'm well up to have a couple or three, but.. I just hope these don't suffer from the same issues as in wobbly running, poor fit of parts, as the PWM from Heljan. Rob 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WD1995 Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 They're looking pretty good, couple there I'd definitely have. Lets hope that as they meant to be limited to 300 a piece they won't have a stupidly high price tag, seems like a rather low number to recover the costs of producing it but I shall wait and see. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
meatloaf Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 (edited) Are these images available online? Edited July 8, 2023 by meatloaf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WD1995 Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 I think at the moment they are only in the magazine, no doubt the website will be updated after the samples have been signed off Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Covkid Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 On 08/07/2023 at 16:28, WD1995 said: I think at the moment they are only in the magazine, no doubt the website will be updated after the samples have been signed off Some more stuff about the class 11s and the class 12s in the latest magazine, but they still say we wait until the order book is open for ordering these. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WD1995 Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 On 14/08/2023 at 04:40, Covkid said: Some more stuff about the class 11s and the class 12s in the latest magazine, but they still say we wait until the order book is open for ordering these. Hopefully they will have prices soon, there's at least 2 I will have for sure but depending on the price maybe a couple more 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Downer Posted August 16, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 16, 2023 Price will be decisive for me as well, particularly after the many bad reports about their PWM shunter. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Covkid Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 13 hours ago, Downer said: Price will be decisive for me as well, particularly after the many bad reports about their PWM shunter. That is the issue for me too. IMHO Heljan is not giving me a reason to trust in quality and reliability at the noment, especially to lumber myself with a preorder. If I can pick up the version I would like then I may well try it, but after the Peak and the PWM Ruston disappoijtments I think I need to observe from the touch line for now. 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted August 17, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 17, 2023 I agree. I'm interested in a few examples of both Class 11 and Class 12 but I'm not commiting to any until I know they run well and have been assembled properly, something which has proved tricky for Heljan to accomplish with the PWMs. Rob. 5 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted August 17, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 17, 2023 1 hour ago, NHY 581 said: I agree. I'm interested in a few examples of both Class 11 and Class 12 but I'm not commiting to any until I know they run well and have been assembled properly, something which has proved tricky for Heljan to accomplish with the PWMs. Rob. From the original Hymek to this, how the mighty have fallen. Mike. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleRedTrain Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 (edited) Looks like the order book is now open for the class 11s (with Class 12s to follow). http://www.modelrailoffers.co.uk/pg/167/Project-Class-11-12 Estimated delivery is December this year. Just placed an order for my LMS black one! Edited September 25, 2023 by LittleRedTrain 2 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham_Muz Posted September 25, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 25, 2023 41 minutes ago, LittleRedTrain said: Looks like the order book is now open for the class 11s (with Class 12s to follow). http://www.modelrailoffers.co.uk/pg/167/Project-Class-11-12 Estimated delivery is December this year. Just placed an order for my LMS black one! Well spotted, I only updated the webpage this morning, additional details will be the imminent issue of Model Rail. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 2 hours ago, Graham_Muz said: Well spotted, I only updated the webpage this morning, additional details will be the imminent issue of Model Rail. Another expensive month! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WD1995 Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 21 hours ago, Graham_Muz said: Well spotted, I only updated the webpage this morning, additional details will be the imminent issue of Model Rail. I've put my order in before all the Longmoor ones sell out, very glad to be having a proper Class 11 instead of the Bachmann 08. In regards to the Longmoor one will the front steps be painted black and the axle springs blue (or black, hard to tell which one on my photos) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham_Muz Posted September 26, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 26, 2023 3 hours ago, WD1995 said: I've put my order in before all the Longmoor ones sell out, very glad to be having a proper Class 11 instead of the Bachmann 08. In regards to the Longmoor one will the front steps be painted black and the axle springs blue (or black, hard to tell which one on my photos) Just for clarity KMRC are only involved in the fulfilment of the Model Rail products and not involved in the model development. The images we were provided for the website are of decorated samples and there might have been some minor tweaks to the final production models. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chatham.mrc Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 The temptation for a LMR one. Although defiantly want class 12 15224 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 25 minutes ago, Chatham.mrc said: The temptation for a LMR one. Although defiantly want class 12 15224 Temptation is terrible, thankfully there isn't a Lambton one ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 If I understand correctly. The first WD ones would have appeared in April 1945, so mostly a postwar machine? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ovbulleid Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 1 hour ago, JSpencer said: If I understand correctly. The first WD ones would have appeared in April 1945, so mostly a postwar machine? I was under the impression these were used to haul the rail guns in Kent due to their lack of smoke. I’m standing by to be corrected though. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 8 hours ago, ovbulleid said: I was under the impression these were used to haul the rail guns in Kent due to their lack of smoke. I’m standing by to be corrected though. That was my first thought too, but if none appeared before April 1945..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted September 27, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 27, 2023 Well, I tried! As I don't have a landline and for some stupid reason extra detail is required in the address field I gave up trying to register. There's a buckshee green one going if anyone is interested! Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted September 27, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 27, 2023 (edited) It's a bit of a balancing act. There are versions of both the Class 11 and Class 12 I'm interested in but Heljan's failure to produce a well running, well assembled model with the PWM has definitely influenced my potential purchase of these locos.Try, I'd be a lot happier if they were being produced by another manufacturer. I'll wait to see how they run first. If I miss out, so be it but this is quite an investment and not one I'll rush into. Rob. Edited September 27, 2023 by NHY 581 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 10 hours ago, ovbulleid said: I was under the impression these were used to haul the rail guns in Kent due to their lack of smoke. I’m standing by to be corrected though. Wasn't that the earlier, jack-shaft drive ones? CJI. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 31 minutes ago, cctransuk said: Wasn't that the earlier, jack-shaft drive ones? CJI. I think they would have been these: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Rail_Class_D3/7 Unless the class 11s appeared a few years earlier than 1945. The model seems to be based on a postwar image on the LMR (there is a tender with LMR in the background). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 1 minute ago, JSpencer said: I think they would have been these: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Rail_Class_D3/7 Unless the class 11s appeared a few years earlier than 1945. The model seems to be based on a postwar image on the LMR (there is a tender with LMR in the background). Exactly - the jack-shaft drive locos. CJI. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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