RMweb Gold Popular Post Accurascale Fran Posted January 11, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted January 11, 2022 (edited) Hi everyone, Apparently GWR locomotives are the biggest talking point this week (not sure where that thunderbolt came from??) so time to wheel out further decoration samples of our lovely 78xx Manors in GWR liveries! Please note that these are from the same pre-production batch of the previously previewed decorated samples we previewed before Christmas, so the improvements we intend to make before production are not implemented on these samples. First up is 7818 'G...G...G...Granville Manor' Next up is 7819 'Hinton Manor', which unfortunately took a bit of a bump and has a crooked cab (butterfingers along the way!) Still, well worth sharing with you all! Check out more pics of each on our website: https://accurascale.co.uk/collections/gwr-7800-manor-class Cheers! Fran Edited January 11, 2022 by Accurascale Fran 27 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JST Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 The tender electrical connection looks interesting. How does it flex on curves? Can't wait to get mine - I shall be singing "Happy Birthday" to my pre-order on St Valentine's Day! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Accurascale Fran Posted January 11, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 11, 2022 1 minute ago, JST said: The tender electrical connection looks interesting. How does it flex on curves? Can't wait to get mine - I shall be singing "Happy Birthday" to my pre-order on St Valentine's Day! Hi @JST, Many thanks. The tender has a kinematic action which allows the electrical connection sufficient play on curves. We will have video of them in action in the coming weeks including previewing the sound which will show them in action. Cheers! Fran 9 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
didcot Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 Looks stunning. 1 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 49 minutes ago, Accurascale Fran said: 'G...G...G...Granville Manor' Beautiful finish. Please forgive me if it’s already been mentioned. Will the copper-capped chimney be painted, plated or metal? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteamingWales Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 Nice. More Manor to drool over and I note on the website the top banner shows more samples are in house! One quick question. I note the above samples have full cylinders but 7812 and 7808 have the cut outs. I'm guessing this is just a case of the factory using up bits to pull the samples together and the finished version will have full cylinders with no cut out whatsoever? Anyway, can't wait for these to be delivered!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Prism Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 (edited) I feel your GWR chimney needs to be a bit fatter (or a bit shorter??). (I have an official drawing of the later BR chimney, but I do not have one for the GWR chimney.) Edited January 11, 2022 by Miss Prism better size comparison in the graphic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post Accurascale Fran Posted January 11, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted January 11, 2022 2 hours ago, No Decorum said: Beautiful finish. Please forgive me if it’s already been mentioned. Will the copper-capped chimney be painted, plated or metal? Hi @No Decorum, These samples are the first time we've had the opportunity to see the painted models and we're not happy with the appearance of the chimney capping or the safety valve cover. We plan on getting some plated parts as soon as possible. 2 hours ago, SteamingWales said: Nice. More Manor to drool over and I note on the website the top banner shows more samples are in house! One quick question. I note the above samples have full cylinders but 7812 and 7808 have the cut outs. I'm guessing this is just a case of the factory using up bits to pull the samples together and the finished version will have full cylinders with no cut out whatsoever? Anyway, can't wait for these to be delivered!!! Hi @SteamingWales, We're providing both with the model. For static display and more gentle layout curves you can use the full cylinder front, but for R2 you need to use the versions with the cutouts. They are push in and easy to swap over - full version will be provided factory installed. The other option was to tinker with placement of the cylinders or pony truck position and we ruled that out. 52 minutes ago, Miss Prism said: I feel your GWR chimney needs to be a bit fatter (or a bit shorter??). (I have an official drawing of the later BR chimney, but I do not have one for the GWR chimney.) Hi @Miss Prism, Below is our CAD overlaid on the original GWR works drawing provided by the GWS. As chimneys are very rarely, if ever, viewed straight on they can be very difficult to judge by eye. The works drawing was used as the bible in this area for obvious reasons. Cheers! Fran 13 2 7 9 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulwell Hall Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 I'll just leave this thought here - it would be great to have some GWR coaches of the same quality to run with the Manor! Gerry 3 13 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenL Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 4 minutes ago, Bulwell Hall said: I'll just leave this thought here - it would be great to have some GWR coaches of the same quality to run with the Manor! Gerry Absolutely, and a Hawksworth County to help over the Devon banks! 5 3 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted January 11, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 11, 2022 21 minutes ago, Bulwell Hall said: I'll just leave this thought here - it would be great to have some GWR coaches of the same quality to run with the Manor! Gerry This has gladdened my heart this evening after all of yesterday's furore over H's announcement. One of the country's supreme GWR modeller's wish-listing for some rtr coaching stock. Nice one Gerry. 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 5 hours ago, Accurascale Fran said: Hi @No Decorum, These samples are the first time we've had the opportunity to see the painted models and we're not happy with the appearance of the chimney capping or the safety valve cover. We plan on getting some plated parts as soon as possible. Hi @SteamingWales, We're providing both with the model. For static display and more gentle layout curves you can use the full cylinder front, but for R2 you need to use the versions with the cutouts. They are push in and easy to swap over - full version will be provided factory installed. The other option was to tinker with placement of the cylinders or pony truck position and we ruled that out. Hi @Miss Prism, Below is our CAD overlaid on the original GWR works drawing provided by the GWS. As chimneys are very rarely, if ever, viewed straight on they can be very difficult to judge by eye. The works drawing was used as the bible in this area for obvious reasons. Cheers! Fran Plated! Excellent. Many thanks, Fran. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Prism Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 6 hours ago, Accurascale Fran said: and we're not happy with the appearance of the chimney capping or the safety valve cover. We plan on getting some plated parts as soon as possible. Oh. I thought they looked very realistic. (I hate that shiny electroplate stuff.) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Prism Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 6 hours ago, Accurascale Fran said: As chimneys are very rarely, if ever, viewed straight on they can be very difficult to judge by eye. That's very true, and thanks for your drawing. I've spent a little while re-educating myself comparing the GWR and BR chimneys: 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
County of Yorkshire Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Bulwell Hall said: I'll just leave this thought here - it would be great to have some GWR coaches of the same quality to run with the Manor! Gerry Absolutely. The Collett sunshine coaches are desperate for a retool and also need a wider range of diagrams producing. A TK, CK, BTK, BCK, and BG as a minimum please! CoY 2 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted January 11, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 11, 2022 12 minutes ago, County of Yorkshire said: Absolutely. The Collett sunshine coaches are desperate for a retool and also need a wider range of diagrams producing. A TK, CK, BTK, BCK, and BG as a minimum please! CoY With a wealth of underframe detail like to the standard set by the Accurascale siphon and we would be very happy . 1 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Eddie the dog Posted January 12, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 12, 2022 Really not a fan of this fad for plated safety valve covers and chimney caps and would much rather see actual metal parts. 1 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Accurascale Fran Posted January 12, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 12, 2022 45 minutes ago, Eddie the dog said: Really not a fan of this fad for plated safety valve covers and chimney caps and would much rather see actual metal parts. Hi @Eddie the dog, That's interesting. What do you not like about the plating? Do people prefer what we have at the moment? Cheers! Fran 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 46444 Posted January 12, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 12, 2022 13 hours ago, BenL said: ..... and a Hawksworth County to help over the Devon banks! Did someone say Hawksworth County... 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Harlequin Posted January 12, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 12, 2022 (edited) Not sure exactly what plating means but if it's the ultra-shiny surface as seen on, for instance the safety valve bonnets of the recent Dapol large prairies, then it's too shiny, too perfect. It looks like it should be on a Japanese robot but at least it can be dulled down whereas trying to make a dull surface shiny is more difficult. That's just my opinion. (I suspect that producing a true-to-scale shiny brass effect might be difficult to achieve.) P.S. If considering more GWR rolling stock, please push the timeline back into the classic grouping era. The shabby post war and BR decline eras don't cut it for all of us! Edited January 12, 2022 by Harlequin 1 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 12 minutes ago, Accurascale Fran said: Hi @Eddie the dog, That's interesting. What do you not like about the plating? Do people prefer what we have at the moment? Cheers! Fran Three different views. It’s enough to drive you to drink! For what it’s worth, I do like metal parts (nothing but metal looks like metal and sparkly paint doesn’t) but plating is perfectly acceptable. Once you have the polished metal appearance right, then it’s possible to weather it to taste. If it isn’t like polished metal, then all weathering can do is try to disguise it. Anyhow, I like things to look shiny and new but not paintwork shining like a mirror. It may not be realistic but it is all an imaginary world anyhow. The paintwork on the Manor looks just the job to me. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 1 minute ago, Harlequin said: Not sure exactly what plating means but if it's the ultra-shiny surface as seen on, for instance the safety valve bonnets of the recent Dapol large prairies, then it's too shiny, too perfect. It looks like it should be on a Japanese robot but at least it can be dulled down whereas trying to make a dull surface shiny is more difficult. That's just my opinion. (I suspect that producing a true-to-scale shiny brass effect might be difficult to achieve.) P.S. If considering more GWR rolling stock, please push the timeline back into the classic grouping era. The shabby post war and BR decline eras don't cut it for all of us! You beat me to the draw! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MikeParkin65 Posted January 12, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 12, 2022 1 hour ago, Accurascale Fran said: Hi @Eddie the dog, That's interesting. What do you not like about the plating? Do people prefer what we have at the moment? Cheers! Fran I have to agree that I prefer the existing representation of the safety valve cover to the plated version that Dapol have done. Think its down to metal looking like metal but plastic needing very careful finishing to make it look like metal. Painted 'brass' on GWR locos harmonises better with the painted boiler sheets to my eyes than Quality Street Toffee rapper approach 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JST Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 If you want a challenge try a 14xx Class. There have been some attempts at it but to my knowledge nobody has produced a reliable good runner. DJM came closest, but a RTR model with DCC sound, firebox flicker, stay alive etc. would be the holy grail for me. Bon chance! 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Eddie the dog Posted January 12, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 12, 2022 Hi Fran, Yes, by “plated” I assume it would be of the electroplated type employed by Dapol on the Large Prairie ? An example of metal chimney cowl would be Bachman’s GWR Earl Class for instance if possible. Thanks. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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