Dave F's photos - ongoing - more added each day

[JeffP]

Yes, it entered service in Railfreight grey, but had become a bit work-stained by the time of its naming, so a depot level freshen up was thought appropriate.

And that was done at Gateshead????????

Things must have changed there since steam days.

[DaveF]

Hi, Dave. I like the Cambois photo's, and I can't help but notice all those brake vans in C5115, in July, 1980. I wonder if they were all to be scrapped?

 

With warmest regards,

 

Rob.

 

 

At the time a lot of brake vans were still in use in the area.  Thery were needed for the Alcan alumina trains and many of the old coal hoppers, used both for the staithes traffic and for the power stations.

 

 

By late 1980 there were a few HBAs (and later HEAs) in use on the staithes, but they were very much in the minority.  Within a year or so they became more common, especially for the power station traffic.

 

From memory the same was true of the power station traffic.

 

HAAs came to the area much later .

 

David

Edited March 9, 2018 by DaveF

[talisman56]

A rare shot showing off the purpley- brown colour that was used for a while for coaching stock underframes (including DMUs, IIRC) in the late 1960s/early 1970s. It was presumably intended to make brake dust and other contamination less visible, but didn't work that well. I even saw a re-bodied 16t mineral carrying it. When I painted some models with it, I found 'Caledonian Railway Purple' was a reasonable match.

 

IIRC BR(S) EMUs were still being outshopped new and after overhaul with the purple underframe paint into 1974. In most cases it also was applied to the bogie frames...

[45125]

IIRC BR(S) EMUs were still being outshopped new and after overhaul with the purple underframe paint into 1974. In most cases it also was applied to the bogie frames...

 

The paint is called bogie brown, its not purple.............. It is Avery similar shade of brown to Pullman Umber but has purple blue cast in it, when caught in the right light.

[keefer]

shown in the Corporate Manual - Dark Brown, BS2660 No.3-039, 'brake dust' brown

 

http://www.doublearrow.co.uk/manual/1_30.1969-01.gif

 

Shown to good effect here:

 

Mk1 RF in 1968: https://www.flickr.com/photos/robertcwp/14747917500/in/album-72157603653607671/

Mk1 SK in 1973: https://www.flickr.com/photos/robertcwp/5500672634/in/album-72157603653607671/

Mk2 BSO in 1966: https://www.flickr.com/photos/robertcwp/7686973946/in/album-72157603653607671/

[cctransuk]

shown in the Corporate Manual - Dark Brown, BS2660 No.3-039, 'brake dust' brown

 

http://www.doublearrow.co.uk/manual/1_30.1969-01.gif

 

Shown to good effect here:

 

Mk1 RF in 1968: https://www.flickr.com/photos/robertcwp/14747917500/in/album-72157603653607671/

Mk1 SK in 1973: https://www.flickr.com/photos/robertcwp/5500672634/in/album-72157603653607671/

Mk2 BSO in 1966: https://www.flickr.com/photos/robertcwp/7686973946/in/album-72157603653607671/

 

When the corporate livery was first announced, I had a period of painting my Tri-ang Mk.1s in Monastral Blue and Rail Grey; for the bogies and underframes I mixed GWR chocolate with LMS Crimson Lake.

 

Regards,

John Isherwood.

Edited March 10, 2018 by cctransuk

[DaveF]

Leicestersire this afternoon, with a mix of trains and infrastructure (i.e. track and trackbed)

 

 

Ashwell Class 45 No. 128 down fly ash July 72 J2987

 

 

Cottesmore BSC iron ore sidings Feb 72 J2813

 

 

Eastwell sidings GN and LNW Joint line to Leicester view south May 72 J2917

 

 

Exton Park British Steel ironstone line Nov 72 J3127

 

 

Syston Class 25 5250 Cambridge to Birmingham July 71 J2709

 

 

David

[Porcy Mane]

Monastral Grey; 

 

?

Edited March 10, 2018 by Porcy Mane

[cctransuk]

?

 

Oops - for Rail Blue and Monastral Grey read Monastral Blue and Pearl or Rail Grey.

 

Regards,

John Isherwood.

[45125]

shown in the Corporate Manual - Dark Brown, BS2660 No.3-039, 'brake dust' brown

 

http://www.doublearrow.co.uk/manual/1_30.1969-01.gif

 

Shown to good effect here:

 

Mk1 RF in 1968: https://www.flickr.com/photos/robertcwp/14747917500/in/album-72157603653607671/

Mk1 SK in 1973: https://www.flickr.com/photos/robertcwp/5500672634/in/album-72157603653607671/

Mk2 BSO in 1966: https://www.flickr.com/photos/robertcwp/7686973946/in/album-72157603653607671/

 

The corporate manual might have called it that, but bogie brown is what it said on the tin....

[Market65]

Hi, Dave. I like the Leicestershire photos. In J2137, the Exton Park British Steel ironstone line, in November 1972, was looking most bucolic, which has been well captured in the photo'.

 

Regarding the dark brown of BR blue and grey livery, I always thought it looked very much like chocolate, and remember repainting a Metro Cammell unit from Triang in dark brown, for its underframe, from a tin marked Chocolate Brown. It looked Ok to me.

 

With warmest regards,

 

Rob.

[DaveF]

The Foxfield Railway today in 1975 to 1978 this morning.

 

 

Dilhorne Bagnall 0-6-0ST Topham 28th Sept 75 C2449

 

 

Dilhorne old loco shed 28th Sept 75 C2459

 

 

Dilhorne Bagnall Hawarden and Bagnall Lewisham filling tanker with water July 76 C2886

 

 

Dilhorne Bagnall Lewisham July 76 C2909

 

 

Dilhorne Simplex Helen 29th May 78 C3863

 

 

Dilhorne Bagnall Lewisham and Bagnall J T Daly and Hunslet Wimblebury 29th May 78 C3866

 

 

David

[Market65]

Hi, Dave. I like the Foxfield Railway photos. I particularly like the engine shed in C2459, at Dilhorne, 28th September, 1975. It would make a most delightful model, especially with it next to a coal mine.

 

With warmest regards,

 

Rob.

[Rugd1022]

Really enjoying those Leicestershire shots from yesterday Dave, particularly the Peak passing over the LC at Ashwell. It's on my route card and still feels like a proper bit of 'old railway' when I work over it. Often thought a ficticious location along it would make for a nice layout, especially if it was set in the early '70s.

 

 

[lmsforever]

Interesting crossing gates at Ashwell had there been an accident there in the past?

[DaveF]

This afternoon we start at Nottingham Midland and head roughly north east along the Midland line some of the way towards Newark.

 

 

Nottingham Class 120 Crewe to Lincoln and Class 47 Aug 75 J4677

 

 

Nottingham London Road Junction May 73 J3189

 

 

Sneinton Junction Class 120 Crewe to Lincoln June 78 C3893

 

 

Gonalston Crossing Class 47 47217 down oil Oct 75 C2514

 

 

Gonalston crossing Class 120 Crewe to Lincoln Feb 76 J5055

 

 

David

[eastwestdivide]

J3189 - how many zero mileposts are there? You don't tend to see them at the buffers in London termini.

There's a big one in the middle of the centre platforms at York.

 

Edit: just found a thread:

http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/91128-milepost-0/

Edited March 11, 2018 by eastwestdivide

[russ p]

Really enjoying those Leicestershire shots from yesterday Dave, particularly the Peak passing over the LC at Ashwell. It's on my route card and still feels like a proper bit of 'old railway' when I work over it. Often thought a ficticious location along it would make for a nice layout, especially if it was set in the early '70s.

I quite like that route too when I worked for central the Norwich Leicester jobs we had were nearly all over old style proper railway

I wonder how many times we have passed each other without knowing?

[Market65]

Hi, Dave. I like the Nottingham Midland and on the line towards Newark photo's. They are full of period atmosphere, and I like the way, in the last photo', you can see the first class saloon lighting in the class 120 DMU. I wish the manufacturer's of models could see such photo's, for the interior lights are, mostly, much too bright and white.

 

With warmest regards,

 

Rob.

[DaveF]

Chester and a couple from North Wales for this afternoon.

 

 

Chester dmu on platform and Class 24 5028 May 1972 C0929

 

 

Chester damaged oil tankers and breakdown crane May 72 C932

 

 

Chester from train Classes 120 101 150 127 19th April 86 C7458

 

 

Chester from train Classes 120 101 150149 19th April 86 C7459

 

 

Dolwyddelan 19th April 86 C7468

 

 

Roman Bridge 23rd July 2002 C26010

 

 

David

[luckymucklebackit]

Report on the accident in C0929 http://www.railwaysarchive.co.uk/documents/DoE_Chester1972.pdf

 

Jim

[Geoff Endacott]

Accident 20.51 on 8 May.

 

Normal working resumed 00.01 on 10 May.

 

Somehow I don't think it would be sorted out so quickly these days.

 

Geoff Endacott

[Market65]

Hi, Dave. The Chester photos are fantastic and thought provoking. I think that’s the first accident to be shown in your thread. It makes a sobering sight, and I agree that it would be at least twice as long, if not longer, before the railway could be reopened if it had happened today.

 

With warmest regards,

 

Rob.

[Blackthorn]

In C7458 there looks like a green DMU(?) with a big grey door in the side of it in the background. Does anyone have an idea what this might be?

 

It looks very well cared for, even having what looks like white wheel rims.

 

Mark. 

[DaveF]

In C7458 there looks like a green DMU(?) with a big grey door in the side of it in the background. Does anyone have an idea what this might be?

 

It looks very well cared for, even having what looks like white wheel rims.

 

Mark. 

 

 

It's a Class 127 rebuilt as a parcels dmu.

 

It was repainted green, I believe it is set 920 (55966 & 56967) (ex M51591 & M51610)

 

M515191 had been painted green in 1983 and had been reclaimed from the NRM for further use, M51610 was repainted to match it, then they were renumbered as 55966 and 55967.

 

55966 had a blank headcode box and Express Parcels branding, 55967 was branded Newspapers (painted over by Oct 1988) and displayed 4 characters in the headcode box.

 

David