Dave F's photos - ongoing - more added each day

[dvdlcs]

J1223 - steam hauling (early) Mk2 stock in blue/grey livery. I can't quite read the number, other than make out it is M followed by four digits. If the first digit is 9, then a brake coach BSO, or 5 for a TSO.

[keefer]

it's a BSO. more pics of the train appeared in the post for 22/11/17: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/85326-dave-fs-photos-ongoing-more-added-28th-august/?p=2933404

[DaveF]

Back to Northumberland for today's photos.  This time they are all locations where it is no longer to repeat exactly the same viewpoint. for the reasons given with each caption.

 

For most of the other places I go to the view has remained much the same for nearly forty years (except for the OHLE).

 

 

Pegswood 56115 down empties to Butterwell 18th April 85 C6828

There are now allotment buildings where I was standing.  There are good views from the road bridge and fro the station on the other side of the bridge - but don't expect to get there easily be train - 2 a day each way stop there.

 

 

Pegswood Class 254 down 7th June 86 C7572

I was standing on the remains of an old pit heap.  It has been landscaped and much of the land used for housing.

 

 

Longhirst Class 40 down ICI tanks Oct 82 C5873

This view is looking south to the level crossing and site of the old station.  There is now a large piece of hedge between me and the railway  The hedge along the road has also been allowed to grow, but there are still some good views very nearby.

 

 

Ulgham Lane crossing 46040 down empty ballast Aug 80 C5197

There are now small trees and bushes partly obscuring the view, but a good photo can be taken a few yards further along the lane.

 

 

Longhoughton 254020 up Aug 80 C5152

When I took this the parking was awkward and the road was busy with lorries from the local quarry.  This the bridge north of the village.  I haven't been back for a long time, looking at Google Earth it might be possible to get a photo here now.

 

David

Edited August 29, 2018 by DaveF

[eastwestdivide]

C5873 has an ex-ferry CCT as a barrier wagon behind the loco

[Alcanman]

Great pics of the ECML in Northumberland especially given the remoteness of some of the locations.  

 

It hadn't even occured to me that Longhirst and Longhoughton were anywhere near the ECML.

 

As always, the lack of OHLE adds to the almosphere of the photos.

 

Your observation at Ulgham Lane regarding trees and bushes is valid. I find that a lot of the lineside locations I used to go to in SE Northumberland are now obscured by overgrown foliage.

[Market65]

Hi, Dave. I like the Northumberland photo’s. A great set, and it’s most interesting to read your extended captions about how things have or have not changed since taking the photo’s. I particularly like C5873, at Longhirst, with an unidentifiable class 40 on a down ICI tank wagon train in October, 1982. The 40 makes a most impressive sight at the head of the train.

 

With warmest regards,

 

Rob.

[DaveF]

Mostly Stockton and Darlington bits and pieces for this afternoon.

 

 

Eaglescliffe Preston Park Seaham Dock Head Wrightson VB June 75 J4406

 

 

Eaglescliffe Preston Park SDR rail and stone block sleepers June 75 J4408

 

 

Darlington Parkgate Junction site of S&D crossing June 75 J4395

 

 

Darlington North Road May 75 J4417

 

 

Darlington North Road S&DR Derwent 1st Aug 86 C7792

 

 

Shildon Timothy Hackworth's House 24th Aug 75 C2313

 

 

David

[Market65]

Hi, Dave. I like the Stockton and Darlington photo's. Especially the first one of 

Eaglescliffe, Preston Park, with Seaham Dock, Head Wrightson VB, in June, 1975. It's somewhat unusual, and I hope I have got it described correctly, it's something that I will be researching.

 

With warmest regards,

 

Rob. 

[sir douglas]

beamish has two head wrightson's this might be one of them

[DaveF]

Diesels at York in the mid 70s and 80s for this afternoon.

 

 

York Class110 York to Harrogate May 74 J3683

 

 

York Class 45 No ??? St Pancras to Scarborough special May 74 J3686

 

 

York Holgate bridge junction 08249 pw June 75 J4385

 

 

York Class 141 55529 and 55509 York to Harrogate 28th July 86 C7637

 

 

York Class 114 54035 and 53035 ecs for York to Selby 28th July 86 C7660

 

 

David

Edited August 31, 2018 by DaveF

[brushman47544]

J3686 is not D31, which had split centre headcode panels. The number looks more like three digits, perhaps 103?

Edited August 31, 2018 by brushman47544

[melmerby]

J 4385. I wonder if that Gresley coach survives?

 

Nice pictures as usual Dave.

Many Thanks.

 

Cheers

 

Keith

[Market65]

Hi, Dave. I like the York photo’s. Full of interest and nostalgia. The first one, J3683, of a class 110, DMU, on a York to Harrogate service in May, 1974, clearly shows the class 104 TSL that some of these otherwise three car units had inserted.

 

With warmest regards,

 

Rob.

[iands]

To echo other comments, many thanks Dave for some 'York nostalgia'. All those EP points - I had a great time as a trainee with the 'North End' lineman on maintenance, happy days.

 

Regards, Ian.

[leopardml2341]

J3683, unusual in that the DMU is a 4-car with both centre cars being of the 110 variety.

 

As they were built as 3-car sets, there must have been one set missing one.

 

If that were the case then then 2 car unit would be a power twin; 720hp for just two cars..... Not quite a GTi, but pretty sprightly I'd wager.

Edited August 31, 2018 by leopardml2341

[Market65]

Regarding that four car 110. On enlarging the photo’, it can be seen that the big side windows on that nearest TSL, have no ‘surround’ to them, and the end windows, either side of the connecting gangway are much higher up than on a class 110 TSL. Those are the main differences between the two classes of TSL. I recall that there were some class 104 TSL’s spare and used in class 110’s to make them into four car sets, and also, some of them were also used between Metro Cammell driving power cars to make up three car sets. I believe this spanned the mid seventies period before sets were reformed. I hope this is of some additional help.

 

Best regards,

 

Rob.

[Swindon 123]

Another example of a 4 car class 110. (well at least the power car this end is a 110).   https://flic.kr/p/dmtHs6

 

Paul J.

[leopardml2341]

Regarding that four car 110. On enlarging the photo’, it can be seen that the big side windows on that nearest TSL, have no ‘surround’ to them, and the end windows, either side of the connecting gangway are much higher up than on a class 110 TSL. Those are the main differences between the two classes of TSL. I recall that there were some class 104 TSL’s spare and used in class 110’s to make them into four car sets, and also, some of them were also used between Metro Cammell driving power cars to make up three car sets. I believe this spanned the mid seventies period before sets were reformed. I hope this is of some additional help.

Best regards,

Rob.

Agreed, but iirc the 104's were a much flatter side profile and those two look the same (with a tumblehome), to me at least.

 

 

Hmmm, having had a further look, I'm in agreement, it is likely a 104 TSL.

Edited August 31, 2018 by leopardml2341

[Market65]

Another example of a 4 car class 110. (well at least the power car this end is a 110).   https://flic.kr/p/dmtHs6

 

Paul J.

That’s correct. It, again, on enlarging the photo’ to maximum magnification, has a class 110 DMCL, at this end, then a class 110 TSL, followed by another of those class 104 TSL’s, and the class 110 DMBC brings up the rear. It’s a lovely photo’, and I just hope Dave might have one of a three car Metro Cammell with a class 104 TSL. That would clarify the matter still further. Those ‘Met Sets’ always looked so Infra Dig with the 104 TSL’s inserted into them!

 

Best regards,

 

Rob.

[Swindon 123]

That’s correct. It, again, on enlarging the photo’ to maximum magnification, has a class 110 DMCL, at this end, then a class 110 TSL, followed by another of those class 104 TSL’s, and the class 110 DMBC brings up the rear. It’s a lovely photo’, and I just hope Dave might have one of a three car Metro Cammell with a class 104 TSL. That would clarify the matter still further. Those ‘Met Sets’ always looked so Infra Dig with the 104 TSL’s inserted into them!

 

Best regards,

 

Rob.

Not quite as you requested, but a mixed 104-101 4 car set, with livery differences to boot.

https://flic.kr/p/diXJUW

 

Paul J.

[Clive Mortimore]

Regarding that four car 110. On enlarging the photo’, it can be seen that the big side windows on that nearest TSL, have no ‘surround’ to them, and the end windows, either side of the connecting gangway are much higher up than on a class 110 TSL. Those are the main differences between the two classes of TSL. I recall that there were some class 104 TSL’s spare and used in class 110’s to make them into four car sets, and also, some of them were also used between Metro Cammell driving power cars to make up three car sets. I believe this spanned the mid seventies period before sets were reformed. I hope this is of some additional help.

 

Best regards,

 

Rob.

Hi Rob

 

Could the addition of the class 104 TSL to the 110 sets happened when the 4 car 104 sets were set to East Anglia as 3 car sets?  Until seeing the two types of TSL together as in this photo I never realised how much of a difference there was on the end windows. Can I be bothered to alter my class 104 conversions? Or make sure any photos I post don't show that end of the coach in case Rob sees it?

[jonny777]

J3683 and C7637

 

12 years between the two York to Harrogate services. From 4-car heritage dmu to two carriage 4-wheel railbus. 

 

Was this progress in the eyes of the public? 

[The Pilotman]

J3683 and C7637

 

12 years between the two York to Harrogate services. From 4-car heritage dmu to two carriage 4-wheel railbus. 

 

Was this progress in the eyes of the public?

 

No.

[Enterprisingwestern]

J3683 and C7637

 

12 years between the two York to Harrogate services. From 4-car heritage dmu to two carriage 4-wheel railbus. 

 

Was this progress in the eyes of the public? 

 

 

No.

 

Probably as there are more seats per day.

 

Mike.

[DaveF]

Around the Newcastle and Gateshead area today.

 

A bit later than usual as I decided to visit the exhibition at the Aln Valley Railway in Alnwick this afternoon - it was well worth it.

 

 

Dunston staithes Jan 84 C6332

 

 

Gateshead Class 37 down oil Jan 84 C6371

 

 

Newcastle Queen Elizabeth bridge southbound Metro Aug 82 C5816

 

 

Newcastle Class 108 53621 & 53633 special Driffield to Newcastle 10th July 87 C8644

 

 

Newcastle Class 253 up 21st Feb 85 C6715

 

 

David