Dave F's photos - ongoing - more added each day

[DaveF]

Today's photos are probably best described as being north and south of the Tyne.

 

For those not fortunate enough to know the north east Stella North and South power stations were on the north and south banks of the River Tyne west of Newcastle.

 

Tyne Commission Quay was the terminus for boat trains from kings Cross for the ferry to Norway and Scotswood Junction was on the north side of the Tyne in the western part of Newcastle.

 

All the areas have changed since the photos were taken, Stella north and south have long been demolished, the land in the second photo at Tyne Commission Quay is now houses and the enclosed dock is a marina, while the whole line at Scotswood Junction has gone.

 

 

Stella North Power station tracks of Newcastle to Carlisle in foreground Jan 84 C6347

 

 

Stella South Class 101 Hexham to Newcastle Jan 84 C6348

 

 

Stella South Class 101 Hexham to Newcastle Jan 84 C6349

 

 

Tyne Commission Quay 30th March 84 C6445  The station site was the black building beyond the cranes.

 

 

Tyne Commission Quay 30th March 84 C6446

 

 

Scotswood Junction Class 101 Tyneside Venturer view east from train 14th Sept 85 C7178  The train has just travelled along that nice rusty track.

 

All the areas have changed, Stella north and south have long been demolished, the land in the second photo at Tyne Commission Quay is now houses and the enclosed dock is a marina, while the whole line at Scotswood Junction has gone.

David

Edited September 12, 2018 by DaveF

[Market65]

Hi, Dave. I like the photo’s from the north and south of the Tyne. In C6446, at Tyne Commission Quay, on the 30th March, 1984, it can be seen the state things had got into. A far cry from the old days when the boat trains would run through to the station.

 

With warmest regards,

 

Rob.

[DaveF]

Photos of Tyne and Wear Metro trains for this afternoon.  These were taken in the first five years of the system with the cars in their original livery.

 

Note that photography is not allowed on Metro property, all these were taken from public land.

 

 

Monkseaton Metro Dec 80 C5237

 

 

Howdon Metro Heworth to St James Dec 82 C5906

 

 

West Monkseaton Metro Heworth to St James Jan 84 C6391

 

 

Gateshead Stadium T&W Metro 4033 St James to Heworth 1st Aug 85 C7011

 

 

Backworth station site of T&W Metro 4053 to St James 5th Aug 85 C7043

 

 

David

[Market65]

Hi, Dave. I like the Tyne and Wear Metro photo's. In particular C6391 at West Monkseaton Metro, with a Heworth to St James service, in January, 1984.

I must ask, though, having taken some photo's on Scarborough station this afternoon, why it's not permitted to take photo's on any Metro property. Is it terrorism concerns, for that's the only thing I can think that of.

 

With warmest regards,

 

Rob.

[Andy Louch]

Hi, Dave. I like the Tyne and Wear Metro photo's. In particular C6391 at West Monkseaton Metro, with a Heworth to St James service, in January, 1984.

I must ask, though, having taken some photo's on Scarborough station this afternoon, why it's not permitted to take photo's on any Metro property. Is it terrorism concerns, for that's the only thing I can think that of.

 

With warmest regards,

 

Rob.

 

Hello Rob, not sure why photography is banned; they have the following on their website which looks more like commercial issues than any concerns about terrorism etc;

 

https://nexus.org.uk/metro/guide-metro/photography-filming-and-advertising

 

Excellent photos from Dave by the way! I always plan to take some pictures when visiting the North East since some of the stations (e.g Tynemouth!) are very photogenic.

 

Best wishes, Andy

[Fat Controller]

Today's photos are probably best described as being north and south of the Tyne.

 

For those not fortunate enough to know the north east Stella North and South power stations were on the north and south banks of the River Tyne west of Newcastle.

 

Tyne Commission Quay was the terminus for boat trains from kings Cross for the ferry to Norway and Scotswood Junction was on the north side of the Tyne in the western part of Newcastle.

 

All the areas have changed since the photos were taken, Stella north and south have long been demolished, the land in the second photo at Tyne Commission Quay is now houses and the enclosed dock is a marina, while the whole line at Scotswood Junction has gone.

 

 

Stella North Power station tracks of Newcastle to Carlisle in foreground Jan 84 C6347.jpg

Stella North Power station tracks of Newcastle to Carlisle in foreground Jan 84 C6347

 

 

Stella South Class 101 Hexham to Newcastle Jan 84 C6348.jpg

Stella South Class 101 Hexham to Newcastle Jan 84 C6348

 

 

Stella South Class 101 Hexham to Newcastle Jan 84 C6349.jpg

Stella South Class 101 Hexham to Newcastle Jan 84 C6349

 

 

Tyne Commission Quay 30th March 84 C6445.jpg

Tyne Commission Quay 30th March 84 C6445  The station site was the black building beyond the cranes.

 

 

Tyne Commission Quay 30th March 84 C6446.jpg

Tyne Commission Quay 30th March 84 C6446

 

 

Scotswood Junction Class 101 Tyneside Venturer view east from train14th Sept 85 C7178.jpg

Scotswood Junction Class 101 Tyneside Venturer view east from train 14th Sept 85 C7178  The train has just travelled along that nice rusty track.

 

All the areas have changed, Stella north and south have long been demolished, the land in the second photo at Tyne Commission Quay is now houses and the enclosed dock is a marina, while the whole line at Scotswood Junction has gone.

David

Photo C7178:

Immediately to the right of the photo is the roof of Vickers' Elswick works, which produced tanks for many years; if you were lucky, you might, from the top deck of the bus, see them testing vehicles on the 'slope test' (driving them up a 45 degree slope, then down the other side, or the water tank, where the vehicle would drive into a swimming-pool sized water bath..

The chimneys behind are those of Dunston power station. 

The camera is pointed at 'Paradise', the name of the bit of between the camera and the Shell/ Jobling Purser (later Colas) bitumen terminal. If you passed there on a winter's morn, you'd be reminded of the 'other place' instead, as steam billowed forth from the tanks.

When we first moved to the NE in 1982, this line was the passenger route from Blaydon to Newcastle; the other route was strictly 'freight only'.

[DaveF]

Photo C7178:

Immediately to the right of the photo is the roof of Vickers' Elswick works, which produced tanks for many years; if you were lucky, you might, from the top deck of the bus, see them testing vehicles on the 'slope test' (driving them up a 45 degree slope, then down the other side, or the water tank, where the vehicle would drive into a swimming-pool sized water bath..

The chimneys behind are those of Dunston power station. 

The camera is pointed at 'Paradise', the name of the bit of between the camera and the Shell/ Jobling Purser (later Colas) bitumen terminal. If you passed there on a winter's morn, you'd be reminded of the 'other place' instead, as steam billowed forth from the tanks.

When we first moved to the NE in 1982, this line was the passenger route from Blaydon to Newcastle; the other route was strictly 'freight only'.

 

 

Brian,

 

Thanks very much for the information.  I think I knew it once but had forgotten - despite having lived in Northumberland since 1980 and worked in Newcastle (on the northwestern edge of it) for 33 years.

 

David

[Brit70053]

A little off topic I know , but reference to 'Paradise' reminds me that In a version of Blaydon Races seen in *Durham County Hall Archives many moons ago, the final verse commences:

 

"And when we got to Paradise, the ground it was quite muddy, Coffee Johnny had a white cap on and yelled "We (Who) stole me (my) cuddy (horse) ?"

 

The more commonly heard version nowadays is "And when we got to Blaydon Toon, the ground etc. etc.

 

* Historically Blaydon was in County Durham

 

Thanks for sharing all your photos Dave, I do follow your thread quite regularly and find that others make all the appropriate comments and add useful information.

Much appreciated.

 

Regards,

 

               John

[Mark Saunders]

 

"And when we got to Paradise, the ground it was quite muddy, Coffee Johnny had a white cap on and yelled "We (Who) stole me (my) cuddy (horse) ?"

 

The above must be the version recorded by the ‘five smith brothers’ as it is on the 1950’s 78 my Dad has!

 

Mark Saunders

[DaveF]

A trip to Hougham  and Dry Doddington now, on the ECML north of Barkston, between Grantham and Newark.

 

The first two photos and the last two are taken at Dry Doddington from the overbridge north of the station site at Hougham.

 

The middle photo was taken at the old station.

 

 

Dry Doddington Class 46 Kings X to Leeds Nov 69 J2023  D177? 09.00 Kings X to Newcastle 

 

 

Dry Doddington Class 47 D1517 down cement Nov 69 J2025  02.35MTF Hoo Jn/02.30WThS Cliffe  to Uddington/

 

 

Hougham 47417 up June 78 J6145

 

 

Dry Doddington 55014? down Aug 78 J6327  10.45 Kings X to Hull

 

 

Dry Doddington Class 31 down Aug 78 J6330  31222?  ECS Ferme Prk to York

 

Edited to get the locations right - the last two photos were taken with a telephoto lens and I got the bridge wrong at first.

Many thanks once again to Mark54 for providing the train details.

David

Edited September 15, 2018 by DaveF

[woodenhead]

I think J2025 is a rather Wet Doddington   

[brushman47544]

More loco guessing, yippee!

 

J2023, the 46 may be D177

 

J6327 is not 55019. It’s a North eastern name from the nameplate font and it has no crest. My guess is 55014.

 

J6330 looks like one of the Moorgate line contingent, perhaps 31222.

Edited September 14, 2018 by brushman47544

[73c]

I think J2025 is a rather Wet Doddington   

Ah, that explains the 3 larger wagons in the train, the cement's got wet and expanded 

[Market65]

Hi, Dave. I like the ECML photo’s at Dry Doddington and Hougham. That last one is potentially interesting in that you have a class 31 hauling a short train of six coaches, of which four are air cons, and electrically heated. I’m hoping it was an ECS train, and not in service - how uncomfortable it would be if in service!

 

With warmest regards,

 

Rob.

[Mark Saunders]

Ah, that explains the 3 larger wagons in the train, the cement's got wet and expanded 

 

Its more than that they are three of the early air braked ones (later PCB) running on their through Vacuum Pipes!

 

Mark Saunders

[Western Glory]

More loco guessing, yippee!

 

J6327 is not 55019. It’s a North eastern name from the nameplate font and it has no crest. My guess is 55014.

 

14 without any doubt.

[DaveF]

The East Midlands today, heading south from Nottingham on the Midland Main Line.

 

 

Nottingham Class 25 25129 down pw Jan 79 J6377

 

 

Meadow Lane Crossing Class 120 Crewe to Lincoln March 76 J5072

 

 

Ratcliffe on Soar 45145 up June 78 J6146

 

 

Kegworth Derby dmu Nottingham to Leicester Mar 75 J4156  Class 116

 

 

Normanton on Soar Class 47 up ex pass Sept 70 J2374  14.50 Nottingham to St Pancras

 

Thanks once again to Mark 54 and Market65.

David

Edited September 16, 2018 by DaveF

[Market65]

Hi, Dave. I like the MML photo’s going south from Nottingham. A great set, and all so full of interest. In J4156, at Kegworth, in March, 1975, the Derby DMU is a class 116 unit, on a Nottingham to Leicester service. It’s one with a four lamp cab end on the DMBS.

 

With warmest regards,

 

Rob.

[mark54]

From yesterday:

1N08 was the 09:00 KX-Newcastle

6S45 was the 02:35MTF Hoo Jcn / 02:30WThS Cliffe to Uddington

J6327 from the formation was the 10:45 KX-Harrogate

J6330 would have been 5D30 or 5L30 ECS Ferme Park to MO Doncaster / MX York

 

From today:

1C64 was the 14:50 Nottingham-St Pancras

[DaveF]

A first visit to the Dtephenson Museum at Middle Engine Lane in North Shields (by the Silverlink shopping centre.

 

The photos are from the early days, it has a lot more to see now.

 

The site was the original Metro test track.

 

It is a museum with a decent length of running line, opening times are on their website at:  https://stephensonrailwaymuseum.org.uk/

 

 

Middle Engine Lane Consett Ironeorks 10 Sept 85 C7191

 

 

Middle Engine Lane Siemens Bo-Bo Sept 85 C7193

 

 

Middle Engine Lane Puffing Billy Stephenson Sept 85 C7194

 

 

Middle Engine Lane Sans Pareil replica Sept 85 C7198

 

 

Middle Engine Lane Consett Iron Co Kitson A No5 Sept 85 C7202

 

 

Middle Engine Lane NER electric luggage van 3267 Sept 85 C7203

 

 

David

[Andy Louch]

A first visit to the Dtephenson Museum at Middle Engine Lane in North Shields (by the Silverlink shopping centre.

 

The photos are from the early days, it has a lot more to see now.

 

The site was the original Metro test track.

 

It is a museum with a decent length of running line, opening times are on their website at:  https://stephensonrailwaymuseum.org.uk/

 

 

Middle Engine Lane Consett Ironeorks 10 Sept 85 C7191.jpg

Middle Engine Lane Consett Ironeorks 10 Sept 85 C7191

 

 

Middle Engine Lane Siemens Bo-Bo Sept 85 C7193.jpg

Middle Engine Lane Siemens Bo-Bo Sept 85 C7193

 

 

Middle Engine Lane Puffing Billy Stephenson Sept 85 C7194.jpg

Middle Engine Lane Puffing Billy Stephenson Sept 85 C7194

 

 

Middle Engine Lane Sans Pareil replica Sept 85 C7198.jpg

Middle Engine Lane Sans Pareil replica Sept 85 C7198

 

 

Middle Engine Lane Consett Iron Co Kitson A No5 Sept 85 C7202.jpg

Middle Engine Lane Consett Iron Co Kitson A No5 Sept 85 C7202

 

 

Middle Engine Lane NER electric luggage van 3267 Sept 85 C7203.jpg

Middle Engine Lane NER electric luggage van 3267 Sept 85 C7203

 

 

David

 

Hello Dave, thanks for posting. I've only ever visited the Stephenson Museum once, in the mid-1990s! I seem to recall an A4 which was painted as, IIRC  'Silver Link'. Loco had full valances as well and I think this was 4464 'Bittern' before she was overhauled at the MHR. Am I correct in this memory? Thanks again, Andy

[DaveF]

Hello Dave, thanks for posting. I've only ever visited the Stephenson Museum once, in the mid-1990s! I seem to recall an A4 which was painted as, IIRC  'Silver Link'. Loco had full valances as well and I think this was 4464 'Bittern' before she was overhauled at the MHR. Am I correct in this memory? Thanks again, Andy

 

 

You are indeed correct.  Somewhere I have a photo of her in that livery which I will get round to doing something with in due course.

 

I believe that the Silverlink shopping centre was named after the loco when it was in that guise.

 

David

[DaveF]

A few more Blyth and Tyne photos today, starting at Plessey Road crossing in Newsham (on the western side of Blyth, then moving north to Bedlington before arriving at Morpeth.

 

Bedlington station only ever had one platform.

 

Note that the signals in the first photo are not identical.

 

Plus one at South Newsham I forgot to upload at first.

 

 

Plessey Road Crossing Newsham view south 24th Feb 85 C6724

 

 

Bedlington Station Class 101 Chevy Chase Railtour 26th April 86 C7508

 

 

Morpeth Class 37 empties Aug 80 C5125

 

 

Morpeth breakdown train 9th April 86 C7372

 

 

 Morpeth Class 101 Chevy Chase railtour 26th April 86 C7558

 

Edited to add this photo:

 

South Newsham diverted HST up Feb 84 C6463

 

 

 

David

Edited September 16, 2018 by DaveF

[brushman47544]

J6146 from yesterday is 45145, not 135.

[Alcanman]

Great Blyth & Tyne pics. Thanks for sharing.

 

Bedlington Station platform is, of course, still intact today and could be re-built and used if the B&T ever reopens to passengers.