Dave F's photos - ongoing - more added each day

[Market65]

Hi, Dave. I like the Southern photo’s. Good to see the first one at Waterloo, but I can’t quite make outvthe number of that class 33. Perhaps someone else might be able to.

Swanick had what I think might be called a footbridge built from a kit. It certainly was not a graceful design, but I know that’s how the Southern Railway went about these things. The signalbox looks like a nice Southern design, in contrast to the footbridge.

 

With warmest regards,

 

Rob.

 

P.S. Swanwick would make a great model, that’s unless someone already has built one based upon it.

[Luke Piewalker]

Thanks for the info Mike. Perhaps 'charter' was the wrong choice of word - I'm sure I've read previously that it wasn't a Royal train, but a special working for a particular event/group of people. Typically I can't find the post, but here is another view from an older post showing the train actually had all three Mk1 saloons, so must've been an important working!

 

From this post: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/85326-dave-fs-photos-ongoing-more-added-17th-september/?p=3158218

Commonwealth Games? Would fit end July 86.

[phixer64]

Really like the photos of Swanwick, used to get off there, as I used to work around the corner.

Apart from 3rd rail in use, nothing has really change a bit, Part of the station building is now a curry house, and I didn't know about the platform signal box.

 

Keep up the excellent work..

 

Regards Jeff

[DaveF]

Today our time machine is taking us to Harrogate Stray, south of the station at various dates in the mid 1960s.

 

 

Harrogate Class 101 Leeds to Harrogate Aug 65 J256

 

 

Harrogate Class 110 Manchester to Harrogate Aug 65 J261

 

 

Harrogate LMS Class 5 44617 Harrogate to Kings X Nov 65 J419

 

 

Harrogate Class 40 up White Rose April 66 J469

 

 

Harrogate Class 47 D1577 Sunderland to Liverpool Aug 66 J597

 

 

David

[The Stationmaster]

Wasn`t the royal train sometimes used for visiting heads of state or other dignitaries? So it could be used for things other than royals. It would explain the lack of the newest coaches.

 

Very unusual by then and in any case the saloons wouldn't have been as they are effectively either personal use for a particular member of the Royal Family or in the case of the lesser ones are used for various wider members of the family carrying out official duties (e.g. the Duchess of Kent.  I think you'll find that Mk 3 saloons are only allocated to use by individual senior members of the family.  'Other' People a were very definitely not allowed in HM's saloon and when three of us were presented to the Queen during a Royal tour in connection with GW 150 that took place in the Duke of Edinburgh's saloon because we were not permitted into HM's saloon.

 

Regrettably we (but not the Queen and Duke) had our lunch in a Mk1 vehicle marshalled in the formation although we had the same menu, cooked in the same kitchen car, as the Royal party.  A lot of the space on these trains is not taken up by anyone in the Royal party but by various railway personnel concerned with the servicing and running of the train and they need both feeding and overnight accommodation.

[Market65]

Hi, Dave. I love the Harrogate photo’s. They capture the mid sixties on BR so perfectly. The first photo’, of a class 101 unit, on a Leeds to Harrogate service in August, 1965, shows that, on enlarging the photo’, it is a power twin, and the unit coupled in front of it is a Derby class 108 - a three car set I think.

In the last photo’, of a class 47, D1577, on a Sunderland to Liverpool service, in August, 1966, J597, you can see the two headlamps to denote an express passenger train. The head code blinds had clearly become unusable - there appears to be some paper over the last two. I love seeing the Thompson SK at the head of that train too. If I had been travelling on it that day, I would have made for that carriage as, possibly, one of the last times that would have been possible before the last ones were very soon withdrawn from service.

 

With warmest regards,

 

Rob.

[DaveF]

Mainly photos of railway remains in Scotland for today, though a couple are of lines still in use.

 

Those of you who do not know Scotland well may need to get maps out again.

 

The last photo, taken near Portsoy, caused me a few problems, when I scanned it I must have given it the wrong file number.  It took me some time to work out where it was.

 

 

Allangrange Fortrose branch Aug 74 J3947

 

 

Buckie GNSR coast line Aug 74 J3952

 

 

Broughty Ferry Class 101 Arbroath to Dundee Aug 74 J3931

 

 

Drumlanrig tunnel north of Class 108 Glasgow to Carlisle Aug 73 C1367

 

 

Invergloy Fort Augustus branch July 74 J3942

 

 

Invergloy Fort Augustus branch July 74 J3943

 

 

Portsoy cottage by old line July 74 J3953

 

David

Edited September 21, 2018 by DaveF

[melmerby]

Rob Bell is walking from Elgin to Portsoy on CH5 tonight at 2100

 

Keith

 

The old station building exists in isolation:

https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=19&lat=57.6792&lon=-2.6903&layers=168&right=BingHyb

 

EDIT

Now the local scout hut!

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d8/Former_Portsoy_Railway_Station_-_geograph.org.uk_-_1690868.jpg/398px-Former_Portsoy_Railway_Station_-_geograph.org.uk_-_1690868.jpg

Edited September 21, 2018 by melmerby

[Market65]

Hi, Dave. I love those Scottish photo’s. A delightful set, and in particular that last one which you nearly misplaced. The cottage at Portsoy is a gem, and cries out to be modelled!

In C1367, at Drumlanrig, at the tunnel to the north, the class 108 unit on a Glasgow to Carlisle service, in August, 1973, has window bars across the door droplights. I’m wondering if it was one of the sets used primarily on the Cumbrian Coast line services.

 

With warmest regards,

 

Rob.

[leopardml2341]

Thanks for continuing to post these pics David.

 

Hope all is still going well with your recovery

[beast66606]

I think (J3931) Carnoustie is Broughty Ferry Dave as the signal box at Carnoustie is brick and Broughty was wooden.

 

Edit - confirmed with a google

[DaveF]

I think (J3931) Carnoustie is Broughty Ferry Dave as the signal box at Carnoustie is brick and Broughty was wooden.

 

Edit - confirmed with a google

 

 

Thanks very much.  It's a case of the original notes being wrong, and not noticed in over 40 years of looking at the photo from time to time.

 

David

[DaveF]

Back to 1972 and 1976 today on the ECML and almost everything has been painted blue.

 

 

This time we are at Lolham, north of Peterborough.

 

 

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Lolham Class 47 1505 Kings X to Edinburgh July 72 J2970  11.00 ex Kings X

 

 

Lolham Class 47 1778 up car transporters July 72 J2971  13.25 MX Elderslie to Dagenham Dock, SO to Ripple Lane

 

 

Lolham Class 55 9004 Newcastle to London July 72 J2972   08.15 Newcastle to Kings X

 

 

Lolham Class 47 down July 72 J2973 between No. 1500 and 1519  11.30 Kings X to Hull

 

 

Lolham Class 47 up Feb 76 J5060 47521?  10.47 Newcastle to Kings X

 

 

David

Edited September 22, 2018 by DaveF

[brushman47544]

J2970 is 1505

J2972 is 9004, not 9006 which has a two line nameplate

J2973 is a Generator, so from 1500 to 1519 (position of ETH)

J5060 wild guess 47521?

[mark54]

1S19 was the 11:00 KX-Edinburgh

4E35 was the 13:25MX Elderslie-Dagenham Dock (SO to Ripple Lane)

J2972 would be the 08:15 Newcastle-KX

1L13 was the 11:30 KX-Harrogate

1A22 was the 10:47 Newcastle-KX

[LNERGE]

Lolham Class 47 down July 72 J2973.jpg

Lolham Class 47 down July 72 J2973 between No. 1500 and 1519  11.30 Kings X to Hull

 

 

 

David

Somewhere in the wood on the upside was a pump house for the GNR borehole that supplied water to Werrington troughs and New England etc. The MR had a similar pump house out towards Bainton.

[Market65]

Hi, Dave. I like the Lolham photo’s. A superb set which has transported me back in time to the seventies so perfectly. I’m wondering about the bridge in the last photo’. It seems quite recent. Could it be LNER days?

 

With warmest regards,

 

Rob.

[DaveF]

Hi, Dave. I like the Lolham photo’s. A superb set which has transported me back in time to the seventies so perfectly. I’m wondering about the bridge in the last photo’. It seems quite recent. Could it be LNER days?

 

With warmest regards,

 

Rob.

 

 

I was wondering about that too.  

 

I wonder if anyone here knows?

 

David

[Western Glory]

Today our time machine is taking us to Harrogate Stray, south of the station at various dates in the mid 1960s.

 

Harrogate LMS Class 5 44617 Harrogate to Kings X Nov 65 J419.jpg

Harrogate LMS Class 5 44617 Harrogate to Kings X Nov 65 J419

 

David

Not 44617 as that didn't exist! Number is hard to decipher, possibly 44672. Is there another photo of this loco, perhaps?

 

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Edited September 22, 2018 by Western Glory

[The Border Reiver]

Not 44617 as that didn't exist! Number is hard to decipher, possibly 44672. Is there another photo of this loco, perhaps?

 

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It's not 44672 which was much cleaner and had Kingmoor stencilled on the front buffer beam in 1965.

Edited September 23, 2018 by The Border Reiver

[DaveF]

Not 44617 as that didn't exist! Number is hard to decipher, possibly 44672. Is there another photo of this loco, perhaps?

 

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It's not 44672 which was much cleaner and had Kingmoor stencilled on the front buffer beam in 1965.

 

I haven't got any other photos taken that day of the train, sorry.

 

David

[DaveF]

This morning's phootos are taken at and near Market Overton in preservation days when Flying Scotsman and Pendennis Castle were based there.

 

Market Overton was on the British Steel lines well beyond the end of the High Dyke branch.

 

 

hill to Market Overton from Paines siding Peckett John banking Sept 73 J3402

 

 

Market Overton Peckett John and 03 D2381 Sept 73 J3392

 

 

Market Overton A3 4472 Flying Scotsman Oct 73 C1441

 

 

Market Overton Pendennis Castle Dec 73 C1452

 

 

Market Overton Barclay ex British Sugar Feb 74 J3612

 

 

Market Overton Merchant Navy 35029 Ellerman Lines being handed over to NRM 7th Sept 75 C2444

 

 

David

[DaveF]

London Tilbury and Southend today at Leigh on Sea, west of Southend.

 

Just the usual Class 302s by the water.

 

 

Leigh on Sea 302 302 Shoeburyness to Fenchurch St May 79 J6450

 

 

Leigh on Sea Class 302 down Nov 79 J6685

 

 

Leigh on Sea Class 302 up May 80 J6924

 

 

Leigh on Sea Class 302 up May 80 J6926

 

 

Leigh on Sea Class 302 268 down May 80 J6927

 

 

David

[Market65]

Hi, Dave. I like the Market Overton photo’s, with a most fascinating selection of engines and stock. In J3392, with Peckett tank engine John and ex - BR 03 diesel shunter, D2381 in September, 1973, it’s good seeing the Peckett getting steamed. It looks like it was a bit careworn, but clearly was steamable.

The L.T.&S.R. photo’s are as good as ever, and the last one of Leigh on Sea, with 302 268 on a down service, in May, 1980, is a well composed shot, and the units blue livery looks ever so slightly faded.

 

With warmest regards,

 

Rob.

[Davexoc]

Market Overton Barclay ex British Sugar Feb 74 J3612

 

Looks like it was fresh from the sugar works judging by the white coated parts.

Just wondering why it carries a spare buffer, was it that prone to breaking them?

 

Dave