Popular Post Oliver Rails Posted February 22, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 22, 2022 (edited) We are pleased to announce our next exclusive model. The SECR Maunsell D1 Class 4-4-0 Steam Locomotive in OO Gauge. In partnership with Dapol we are very excited to be producing the D1 Class locomotive for the first time as a ready to run locomotive. Production is already well underway with a current ETA being late Autumn 2022. The first livery samples have already been reviewed by Dapol, with images on our website now. This locomotive follows on from the hugely popular Wainwright D Class. The model will be available in six liveries: • SECR Maunsell D1 Class SECR Grey 4-4-0 Steam Locomotive No.735 • SECR Maunsell D1 Class Southern SR Maunsell Green 4-4-0 Loco No.1749 • SECR Maunsell D1 Class Southern SR Maunsell Green 4-4-0 Loco No.1741 • SECR Maunsell D1 Class BR Black (Early Crest) 4-4-0 Locomotive No.31741 • SECR Maunsell D1 Class BR Black (Late Crest) 4-4-0 Locomotive No.31246 • SECR Maunsell D1 Class BR Black (Sunshine Lettering) 4-4-0 Loco No.31487 They are available to pre-order both DCC ready and DCC sound fitted. £199.95 DCC Ready £324.95 DCC Sound Fitted All versions are available to pre-order now with just a £30 deposit. Brief History: After 1901 the D class locomotive fast became the mainline locomotive of choice on the south coast, (making the SE&CR’s first mainline express formation) further (for the time) powerful locomotives were investigated by the companies. After Richard Maunsell took the reigns from Harry Wainwright in 1913 he worked on a series of new locomotives which were intended for a long service life, this involved the conversion and upgrade of 11 E class locomotives, resulting in the E1 class. This proved very successful and led directly to the conversion of 21 D class into the D1 class between 1921 and 1927. Though arguably, not as elegant as the D class equipped with a larger boiler, a belpaire firebox and longer travel cylinders the D1 was able to produce a considerable haulage and power increase over its predecessors. Initially allocated to Ashford shed, this class was to be found all over the south-eastern division from London to the south. Withdrawn in November 1961, no preserved examples exist. Specification: Technical Specification • Diecast Chassis • Low centre of gravity located between the driving wheels • NEM couplings with removable coupling pocket • Sprung buffers • R2 (438mm/17.2”) minimum radius • Pickup from tender and driving wheels • Powerful 5 pole motor located within boiler • Pull-out PCB for tool free DCC & Speaker fitting. • ‘Snap-fit’ conductive tender drawbar • Options for bass reflex speaker in tender (pre-wired) • Firebox glow • Profiled wheels • Detailed motion • Removable coal load with internal tender profiling • Fully detailed back-head and cab interior. • Back by Dapol’s comprehensive warranty and service Variations (dependent on model represented) • Two frame variations (to include early D class conversions) • Two cab types • Two Chimney types • Two Smokebox types • Three dome types (with/without top feed and plated) • Two safety valve types (Ross-pop and Ramsbottom) • With and without snifter valves • ‘High capacity’ tenders • Manual and automatic lubricators • Additional minor detail variations Please note: Production is well advanced and the number of models being produced is limited, so pre-ordering is highly recommended. The images shown are of early decorated production samples and are NOT final production models. Various amendments and alterations have been reported and will be altered on final production models. The decorated samples will be in display this weekend at the Model Rail Scotland exhibition. Edited February 22, 2022 by Oliver Rails edit 22 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenGiraffe22 Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 (edited) Hmmm I'm not sure, if it's anything like my pair of D classes it'll just turn into a bit of expensive siding scenery... My Ds both stall and derail so much they're unusable on my current layout. Edit: tactical avoidance of any 3s on the Maunsell green ones? :p Edited February 22, 2022 by GreenGiraffe22 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pre Grouping fan Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 @Oliver Rails Can you confirm if the SR Olive green and tender lettering for said livery is being corrected? Otherwise they look like stunning models. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham_Muz Posted February 22, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 22, 2022 5 minutes ago, Pre Grouping fan said: @Oliver Rails Can you confirm if the SR Olive green and tender lettering for said livery is being corrected? Otherwise they look like stunning models. It's not just the Olive livery that is suspect but the SR Sunshine lettering is wrong again, as it was on the D class (that I am still to replace on mine) The fact that no corrections were made to the D class and these perpetuate the same mistakes I wont hold my breath. 1 4 1 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold tetsudofan Posted February 22, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 22, 2022 Fantastic, 1741 and 31246 pre-ordered, odds are that in the far distant past both locomotives have passed through the station ten minutes away from where I am sitting at the moment. Fingers crossed that in the meantime hope that Rails and Dapol will take note and act upon the comments that are made regarding these models. Keith 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil gollin Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 . Am obvious and worthwhile addition - I have pre-ordered and hope my late BR one looks and runs well. Makes up for other disappointments so far this year. Hornby had better get their finger out, otherwise someone will announce an L1 4-4-0, and that has been in the Tri-ang / Hornby range almost forever. . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWR8700 Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 Although not something I am after, it looks an impressive piece of kit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John M Upton Posted February 22, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 22, 2022 I have to admit this might have tempted me to head back towards OO Scale until I saw Dapol were making it. 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BMacdermott Posted February 22, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 22, 2022 Hello everyone Congratulations to Rails on this announcement! Within what was The Annual 00 Wishlist Poll, the class had been consistently High Polling and went into the Top 50 in 2019. We wish the project every success. Brian (on behalf of The 00 Poll Team) 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PeterStiles Posted February 22, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 22, 2022 And the price is the same as the D, only £199.95; not the £220 of the Imp Precident. Although its a sad thing that they started off in Grey and didn't appear in fully-lined green. So I'll skip the SECR version and take an Olive please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MikeParkin65 Posted February 22, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 22, 2022 6 minutes ago, PeterStiles said: And the price is the same as the D, only £199.95; not the £220 of the Imp Precident. Although its a sad thing that they started off in Grey and didn't appear in fully-lined green. So I'll skip the SECR version and take an Olive please. Unfair comparison perhaps because the D1 is a pre production version but the Precedent looks a bargain at only £20 more if you compare quality of finish. Also the sound fitted D1 seems expensive compared with other contemporary factory fitted sound models adding £130 to the 'base' price. 1 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 1 minute ago, PeterStiles said: And the price is the same as the D, only £199.95; not the £220 of the Imp Precident. Although its a sad thing that they started off in Grey and didn't appear in fully-lined green. So I'll skip the SECR version and take an Olive please. Holding the admittedly high price to the same as the D is indeed welcome, considering the way things are going nowadays. I think the grey version looks very fine but with only ten of them built in 1921, that livery can’t have lasted very long. Unlike some, my D performs very well and is no shelf queen. The D may have been very good in its day but the D1 was a marked improvement. The D may have been elegant but I rather like the D1’s more business-like appearance. On the surface of it, a very welcome announcement. If Rails and Dapol pay some attention to the points made above regarding Southern livery and insignia, it will be very welcome. 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garethp8873 Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 @Oliver Rails can I ask if Wartime Black is going to be looked at in the future with these models? In the meantime both Olive Green examples ordered. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 3 minutes ago, MikeParkin65 said: Unfair comparison perhaps because the D1 is a pre production version but the Precedent looks a bargain at only £20 more if you compare quality of finish. Also the sound fitted D1 seems expensive compared with other contemporary factory fitted sound models adding £130 to the 'base' price. A point not lost on me. Dapol generally seems to charge a higher premium for sound-fitted locomotives than other manufacturers. Twin speakers may account for some of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 (edited) Curious. The e-mail and website both state: “Three dome types (with/without top feed and plated)”. All six versions are illustrated but none has a plated dome. I fancy a slip up. Carried over from the D Class blurb and not properly edited? Computers make that quite a common error. “Maunsell took the reigns…” is a different type of error. Watching the launch video, I noticed that the sample model near the end didn’t start quite as smoothly as I would like and the coupling rod flailed about a bit. The green running plate gives me a “here we go again” feeling! Edited February 22, 2022 by No Decorum Added comments. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted February 22, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 22, 2022 5 minutes ago, No Decorum said: “Maunsell took the reigns…” is a different type of error. Indeed, I do not recall Maunsell designing a 'Monarch' class loco. 1 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham_Muz Posted February 22, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 22, 2022 24 minutes ago, Garethp8873 said: @Oliver Rails can I ask if Wartime Black is going to be looked at in the future with these models? In the meantime both Olive Green examples ordered. I've gone for the BR Sunshine version on the basis that I will need to replace the decals with a correct version, style and size, of decals anyway... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RFS Posted February 22, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 22, 2022 (edited) Anyone having a problem pre-ordering? I get to proceed to payment and the process does not complete. Tried PayPal, it logs me on, I agree to the payment, but then it just returns to the payment page and there's no pre-order confirmation. Same if I try with a credit card. EDIT: Having gone to PayPal and returned to the "place order" page, you then have to accept the pre-order conditions, which wasn't clear at all. I clicked the box but it just kept flashing at me... Edited February 22, 2022 by RFS update Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micklner Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 17 minutes ago, No Decorum said: Curious. The e-mail and website both state: “Three dome types (with/without top feed and plated)”. All six versions are illustrated but none has a plated dome. I fancy a slip up. Carried over from the D Class blurb and not properly edited? Computers make that quite a common error. “Maunsell took the reigns…” is a different type of error. Watching the launch video, I noticed that the sample model near the end didn’t start quite as smoothly as I would like and the coupling rod flailed about a bit. The green running plate gives me a “here we go again” feeling! Video is hiding well !! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, RFS said: Anyone having a problem pre-ordering? I get to proceed to payment and the process does not complete. Tried PayPal, it logs me on, I agree to the payment, but then it just returns to the payment page and there's no pre-order confirmation. Same if I try with a credit card. That sort of thing has been happening to me lately. Amazon asked me to change my name to first name plus surname. I have a fancy that a name consisting of a title followed by initials may be giving some payment methods indigestion. Could this be your problem? Edited February 22, 2022 by No Decorum Spelling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free At Last Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 I think I have read somewhere that Dapol fit the sound modules themselves here in the UK, hence the higher price. ISTBC. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Black Hat Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 1 hour ago, phil gollin said: . Am obvious and worthwhile addition - I have pre-ordered and hope my late BR one looks and runs well. Makes up for other disappointments so far this year. Hornby had better get their finger out, otherwise someone will announce an L1 4-4-0, and that has been in the Tri-ang / Hornby range almost forever. . I'm glad your happy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham_Muz Posted February 22, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 22, 2022 30 minutes ago, The Black Hat said: I'm glad your happy. yawn... 5 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
prtrainman Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 I'll second Graham's comment & add that I am happy too. BR late crest version duly ordered. All that's needed now is a U and L or L1 & 2022 will be even better! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markie Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 I too had problems pre-ordering, but just give Rails a ring and they'll do it over the phone. I couldn't resist, SR Olive Green, 1749 with sound, Yes they are expensive, but they way I looked at put 50 away each month, about price of 10 pints. There are a lot of folk who spend that on a night out more than once a week. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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