Cavalex - all new Class 56 in OO

[taliesin]

9 hours ago, ERIC ALLTORQUE said:

Dont know how many are on for inflated resale but by using the auction function you would at least not loose money and your not twisting anyones arm to buy it are you, even the spivs are just giving an option of getting a model if one missed out, you dont have to buy.

Or they could’ve just left it for sale in the first place so someone didn’t miss out. Not much of a justification for a vile practice. 

[NBL]

27 minutes ago, taliesin said:

Or they could’ve just left it for sale in the first place so someone didn’t miss out. Not much of a justification for a vile practice. 

Why is it a vile practice?  It's not food or medicine, it's a model train, a completely discretionary purchase.  No one's life will be changed if they don't get one.

 

If it's priced too high, no one will buy it, if it does sell for whatever price then that's what the buyer has chosen to pay.

 

I'm pretty sure if the bids were going very high and you were going to rake the money in, you wouldn't end the auction early and sell for a lower price.

[taliesin]

10 minutes ago, NBL said:

Why is it a vile practice?  It's not food or medicine, it's a model train, a completely discretionary purchase.  No one's life will be changed if they don't get one.

 

If it's priced too high, no one will buy it, if it does sell for whatever price then that's what the buyer has chosen to pay.

 

I'm pretty sure if the bids were going very high and you were going to rake the money in, you wouldn't end the auction early and sell for a lower price.

They are not auctions, they are buy it now prices, obviously I’m alone in thinking it’s not ok so I’ll say no more on the subject.

[adb968008]

Have to wonder if those cashing in, are declaring it on next years tax returns or if ebay will tell the hmrc who may ask them about their little business.

Kind of hard to justify it as a personal possession if youve a whole bunch onsale weeks after release at clearly for profit pricing.

In this regard @taliesin can walk high with his conscience clear.

Edited March 31 by adb968008

[NIRCLASS80]

As a modeller of forty years I buy items to use.  I sell stuff to buy stuff.  Some times I order something but by the time it arrives my layout or era modelled has changed. 
I have sold hundreds of items at a loss and very few for a profit. 
No one complains when they get a bargain.  I wish people would just talk about the quality of the models instead of this constant stream of whining crap. 
Order it when it’s announced or accept the outcome. 
I have noticed a downturn on RMweb of useful information and comments. Perhaps more than myself are fed up. 
Rant over. 

[brushman47544]

On 28/03/2024 at 21:22, Roy Langridge said:

I remember them coming into service, and I am pretty certain it was the grid on the cab front, backed up by many quotes on the internet. 
 

Roy

I wouldn’t trust anything of that sort just because someone has stated it as fact on the internet. Doing a search just now Safari suggested the “grid” was fitted from 56056 onwards…

 

I’m not suggesting anyone else’s view is wrong, but the panel on the front of the cab is the horn grill - it doesn’t remotely look to me like a grid - and at least in the groups of enthusiasts I frequented “grid” was always understood to come from the bang plate, which is in the form of a grid, because it was so unusual and stood out as different on a British loco.

[RBE]

17 minutes ago, brushman47544 said:

I wouldn’t trust anything of that sort just because someone has stated it as fact on the internet. Doing a search just now Safari suggested the “grid” was fitted from 56056 onwards…

 

I’m not suggesting anyone else’s view is wrong, but the panel on the front of the cab is the horn grill - it doesn’t remotely look to me like a grid - and at least in the groups of enthusiasts I frequented “grid” was always understood to come from the bang plate, which is in the form of a grid, because it was so unusual and stood out as different on a British loco.

If by 'grid you mean the large horn grill then yes 056 onwards. If you mean the bang plate grid then that was 001 to 090.

[BR Blue]

For what it's worth I always believed that the bang plate was the grid and this was a long time ago. It was much later in the  90s when I heard people saying the horn grille was the inspiration for the name.

 

The bang plate always made more sense as it was actually a grid.

Edited April 1 by BR Blue

[newbryford]

Thank you to Alex for the loan of the railtour pair for York Show.

I do have two single 56s, but a pair together sounded even more fantastic.

Not on a railtour, but gainfully employed on barrier coach duties on Deadmans Lane.

There are plans for a set of coaches to match.

 

(They do need a bit of weathering and details adding....)

 

Pic form @Jack374

 

 

Edited April 2 by newbryford

[brushman47544]

18 hours ago, RBE said:

If by 'grid you mean the large horn grill then yes 056 onwards. If you mean the bang plate grid then that was 001 to 090.

 

15 hours ago, BR Blue said:

For what it's worth I always believed that the bang plate was the grid and this was a long time ago. It was much later in the  90s when I heard people saying the horn grille was the inspiration for the name.

 

The bang plate always made more sense as it was actually a grid.

Exactly BR Blue, indeed the nickname grid was in use before 56056 was built, so that can’t be the inspiration. Anyway I think we done this to death now. Sorry RBE to have highjacked your thread.

[RBE]

No problem, this thread is here to discuss all things grid. 👍

[Michael Hodgson]

On 31/03/2024 at 10:05, adb968008 said:

Have to wonder if those cashing in, are declaring it on next years tax returns or if ebay will tell the hmrc who may ask them about their little business.

Kind of hard to justify it as a personal possession if youve a whole bunch onsale weeks after release at clearly for profit pricing.

In this regard @taliesin can walk high with his conscience clear.

 

Sorry but he may have defeated his own purpose by selling it below its current market value (defined as whatever somebody else is prepared to pay for it).  Auction sites draw no distinction between genuine modellers and the wide boys.  For all anybody knows the purchaser may be one of these spivs he despises, who would have taken the opportunity to get another one to sell on at an inflated price.

 

Those indulging in this practice may be profiteering, but they are merely speculators who may sometimes come a cropper by making advance purchases of products that prove less than popular and end up being sold off at a discount.  Serves them right when that happens, I've no sympathy - but of course they wouldn't do it if they did make more gains than losses over the longer term.

[Trains4U]

The ebay prices seem to have largely resolved back to RRP or near-to.

some auctions are now ending lower.

[rob D2]

“ free market economy “.

 

I never understand this bile for people selling stuff at a profit . Buy it or don’t buy it . It’s not North Korea .

[GRUNFOS]

Here's mine lightly weathered as it's just started it's career.

Paul.

 

It is weathered honest!

Edited April 8 by GRUNFOS

[Gilbert]

Playing out yesterday...unweathered as yet..

[bradfordbuffer]

36 minutes ago, GRUNFOS said:

Here's mine lightly weathered as it's just started it's career.

Paul.

 

Who prepped that loco for traffic? Hang your pipes up😃

[CoBoLoco]

Has anyone figured out how to get the Spirax function working whilst the Engine (F1) is off?

 

I know there is a tickbox in the Lokprogrammer software that allows a user to enable or disable a sound from playing if the Engine (F1) is off, however regardless of which way it is set it doesn't seem to make any difference once written to the decoder.

[Roy Langridge]

3 hours ago, CoBoLoco said:

Has anyone figured out how to get the Spirax function working whilst the Engine (F1) is off?

 

I know there is a tickbox in the Lokprogrammer software that allows a user to enable or disable a sound from playing if the Engine (F1) is off, however regardless of which way it is set it doesn't seem to make any difference once written to the decoder.

I thought it was more than a tick-box. Don’t you have to remove any mention of F1 from  the logic for whatever key the spirax valves are on? 

 

Roy

[97406]

On 03/04/2024 at 16:11, rob D2 said:

“ free market economy “.

 

I never understand this bile for people selling stuff at a profit . Buy it or don’t buy it . It’s not North Korea .

 

[The Ghost of IKB]

One thing the inflated ebay prices shows is there is a market out there waiting for a second run.  I'd have another two blue ones tomorrow at list price that is. Plus 56036 in LL.

[RBE]

10 minutes ago, The Ghost of IKB said:

One thing the inflated ebay prices shows is there is a market out there waiting for a second run.  I'd have another two blue ones tomorrow at list price that is. Plus 56036 in LL.

There will be another run next year after the class 60 run completes.

[The Ghost of IKB]

20 minutes ago, RBE said:

There will be another run next year after the class 60 run 

Roll on 2025!

[Damo666]

Looking to add my 56049 to the JMRI Roster, DecoderPro autodetects lots of ESU chips.

 

Narrowing it down to LokSound v, as the manual states, there are still 13 variants to choose from.

 

Would I be right in that the ESU sound chip (factory install) is the LoKSound 5 DCC, as opposed to basic 5

or 5 L

5 L DCC

5 XL

5Fx, or

5 MKL?

 

I'm aware that Cavalex had added some additional functionality, I'm not sure if therefore they have used a variant of the v5.

 

Thanks

D

[Kaput]

Factory sound will be a Loksound 5 DCC.