RMweb Gold Market65 Posted October 14, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 14, 2016 Hi, Dave. A great set of photo's from Hillmorton. In J6408, you can see why people do not model motorail trains, they were so very long! And I agree about the composition of the first-class section of the train in J6411. A remarkable selection of first-class coaches. With warmest regards, Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Pilotman Posted October 14, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 14, 2016 Hi, Dave. A great set of photo's from Hillmorton. In J6408, you can see why people do not model motorail trains, they were so very long! And I agree about the composition of the first-class section of the train in J6411. A remarkable selection of first-class coaches. With warmest regards, Rob. Indeed! At least a dozen Carflats and eight coaches at least. That would make a good length train even in N. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted October 14, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 14, 2016 J531. Not "just" a down goods, empty anhydrite hoppers as produced by Macgeordie of this parish. Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swindon 123 Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 Two excellent sets of photos David, and they bring back a lot of memories. J523 shows a yellow disc signal adjacent to the box. I have had their purpose explained to me a few times but being a bit slow I still can't understand where the advantage of one over a red ground disc is beneficial. Is anyone able to use that one in the photo to point out their usefulness? When a yellow disc is 'on' you can still go past it, only not on the route to which it applies. ie in the pic, a loco can still go past the disc into the sidings - to access the main line the disc would have to be 'off'. If it was a red disc, you would have to stop at it until it was cleared, whatever route was set This is the official definition for a Yellow disc in my old 1972 rule book. Clause 5.2.2. It always did take a bit of working out, but that is where route knowledge came in, especially if you had a pair of them, as below. CBR 2-106 by Paul James, on Flickr Paul J. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium keefer Posted October 15, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 15, 2016 going back slightly to the WCML trains in the late '60s, they often seemed to have about 31/2 first class coaches - loco then BFK, FK, FK, then possibly FO for dining and then a restaurant car (at least an RB, if not an RU or RKB - i'm not sure which trains would've had a dia.17 RF, but they were an LMR vehicle) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted October 15, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 15, 2016 There was a very nice miniature semaphore at Peterborough (if I remember rightly) at one time which had, I think, either 4 or 5 yellow arms - alas I've never seen a pic of it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted October 15, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted October 15, 2016 (edited) A bit later today as I have been dealing with a few odds and ends. Today's photos are from Barkston and Dry Doddington, which are both north of Grantham on the ECML. All the photos are of "big" engines - Classes 47 and 55. The loco numbers on the first two images may be correct, I'm not sure if Dad noted them at thew time or read them off the slides. Barkston Class 55 D9012 down Sept 68 J1424 12.00 Kings X to Aberdeen Barkston Class 55 D9019 up Sept 68 J1426 10.00 Edinburgh to Kings X Flying Scotsman Barkston Class 47 up April 69 J1651 11.00 Bradford/11.30 Leeds to Kings X Dry Doddington Class 55 down Aug 75 C2285. probably 09.00 Kings X to Newcastle Dry Doddington Class 47 down Dec 76 C3122 probably 10.10 Kings X to Leeds Thanks again to Mark 54 for identifying the timetable information. David Edited October 15, 2016 by DaveF 36 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark54 Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 1A26 was the 12:00 KX-Aberdeen. Note the maroon BSO with B4 bogies. 1A23 was the 10:00 Edinburgh-KX, The Flying Scotsman. 1E71 was the 11:00 Bradford/11:30 Leeds-KX. The front 4 coaches are the Bradford portion. C2285 from the formation looks like the 09:00 KX-Newcastle. C3122 from the formation looks like the 10:10 KX-Leeds. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted October 15, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 15, 2016 Hi, Dave. I like the ECML photo's from Barkston and Dry Doddington. In the second one, J1426, the 55 makes a fine sight at the head of what is the up Flying Scotsman - the train of trains! And it looks as if, from the nameplate, that it is indeed 9019, Royal Highland Fusilier. With warmest regards, Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted October 16, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted October 16, 2016 (edited) I have a bit of spare time this morning so I thought I'd post the steam photos a bit earlier than usual. The way things work out that probably means that the afternoon "modern" photos will end up being posted much later than normal. Today we have some photos of a visit to the Vale of Rheidol in August 1979. I think these may be the first I've put on here of this line. It was one of the wettest days I've ever suffered in Wales. I haven't been there many times, probably because I normally stay further north which makes it a longer journey than to see the other welsh narrow gauge lines. Devils Bridge 9 7th Aug 79 C4710 Devils Bridge 9 7th Aug 79 C4712 Devils Bridge 9 and 8 7th Aug 79 C4713 Devils Bridge 8 7th Aug 79 C4714 Aberystwyth 8 7th Aug 79 C4717 David Edited October 16, 2016 by DaveF 36 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted October 16, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted October 16, 2016 (edited) This evening's photos were taken on the Midland Main Line just south of Trent on the embankement leading to Trent Lock and the bridges over the River Trent. They were all taken in the summer of 1976, hence the bleached looking grass and crops. Before anyone asks, I have been unable to decipher the lettering on some of the wagons in the second image. Trent Class 120 Nottingham to Leicester July 76 C2868 Trent 2 Class 20s up coal July 76 C2869 Note that one is green, the other is blue, a not uncommon sight at the time. Trent Class 120 Leicester to Nottingham July 76 C2870 Trent Class 31 up freight with Class 08 in the train July 76 C2873 Trent Class 37 down ballast July 76 C2874 Edited yet again to try to get all the letters in the right order. David Edited October 16, 2016 by DaveF 32 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertcwp Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 going back slightly to the WCML trains in the late '60s, they often seemed to have about 31/2 first class coaches - loco then BFK, FK, FK, then possibly FO for dining and then a restaurant car (at least an RB, if not an RU or RKB - i'm not sure which trains would've had a dia.17 RF, but they were an LMR vehicle) Liverpool and Manchester trains via the Trent Valley were usually BSO, 5 TSO, RKB, 2 FO, 2 FK, BFK, with some variations. Trains via Birmingham were generally BSO 5 or 6 TSO, RB, FO, 2 FK, BFK, again with some variations. There is late 1960s footage of Diag 17 RF instead of RB in some of the latter. RF also appeared in various other trains up the WCML 'The Executive' had two RK. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 C2874; a nice, uniform, rake of ballast wagons..not. Catfish, Dogfish, two 'Slag' Dogfish, a Herring, another 'Slag' Dogfish and a Catfish, I believe. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RANGERS Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 This evening's photos were taken on the Midlad Main Line just south of Trent on the embankement leading to Trent Lock and the bridges over the River Trent. They were all taken in the summer of 1976, hence the bleached looking grass and crops. Before anyone asks, I have been unable to decipher the lettering on some of the wagons in the second image. Trent Class 120 Nottingham to Leicester July 76 C2868.jpg Trent Class 120 Nottingham to Leicester July 76 C2868 Trent 2 Class 20s up coal July 76 C2869.jpg Trent 2 Class 20s up coal July 76 C2869 Note that one is green, the other is blue, a not uncommon sight at the time. Trent Class 120 Leicester to Nottingham July 76 C2870.jpg Trent Class 120 Leicester to Nottingham July 76 C2870 Trent Class 31 up freight with Class 08 July 76 C2873.jpg Trent Class 31 up freight with Class 08 in the train July 76 C2873 Trent Class 37 down ballast July 76 C2874.jpg Trent Class 37 down ballast July 76 C2874 David Wagons 5 and 6 in C2869 are Lancashire Steel 27t ore tipplers. After Irlam closed, they passed to the BSCO pool and were used for both ore traffic around Corby or being vac fitted, more often on coal traffic where they could provide a fitted head to the unfitted 16t slope sided minerals. Wagon 7 in this shot is a BSCO 27t tippler (ex S&L) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted October 16, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 16, 2016 Hi, Dave. I like the photos of the Vale of Rheidol Railway. I wonder what the man was doing on the bunker of number 9 in C4712. And there is a great set of photos of the MML. In the class 120's, the trailer buffet car is marshalled with the toilets at the DMSL end of the car. I like the photo of the 37 on a ballast train. It makes a fine sight from the side, and is useful modelling material. With warmest regards, Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted October 16, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 16, 2016 Hi, Dave. I like the photos of the Vale of Rheidol Railway. I wonder what the man was doing on the bunker of number 9 in C4712. And there is a great set of photos of the MML. In the class 120's, the trailer buffet car is marshalled with the toilets at the DMSL end of the car. I like the photo of the 37 on a ballast train. It makes a fine sight from the side, and is useful modelling material. With warmest regards, Rob. I think the man in the Vale of Rheidol phot C4712o was about to put the headlamp on ready for the return journey to Aberystwyth - but it was a long time ago. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted October 16, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 16, 2016 Hi, Dave. I like the photos of the Vale of Rheidol Railway. I wonder what the man was doing on the bunker of number 9 in C4712. With warmest regards, Rob. Putting the lamp on I would think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kazmierczak Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 I always found the area around Trent Lock almost a magical place. So close to busy Long Eaton, yet almost totally isolated from the outside world. The trains seemed to appear from all points of the compass, disappearing into the landscape. Above all this was the brooding presence of Ratcliffe Power Station, with the fascinating cloud effects it created. Thanks for the memories David..... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted October 16, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 16, 2016 Excellent stuff Dave - I guess we should not be surprised is raining at Devil's Bridge.... And C2873 - unusual to see a gronk dead in tow with rods on.... Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caradoc Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 Summer of 76.... I was 16 and about to do my first East Midlands Railrover. Wonderful memories. Dave, the 'Like' button alone does not fully express my appreciation and thanks for your marvellous photos, and the time and effort you put in to posting them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted October 16, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 16, 2016 Looks like the 08 is on a siding or a loop in front of the train Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted October 16, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 16, 2016 I went through the same train of thought Russ! But on enlarging the photo I convinced myself it is in the train... Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted October 16, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 16, 2016 You've got me thinking now Phil! Seems a bit odd for what seems to be a block working of tubes to put a 350 randomly in the formation. It should be coupled to the locomotive Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kazmierczak Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 Sorry Phil, but I'm more inclined to agree with Russ. The Cl.08 looks (to me) to be in front of the freight train. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 ...and I remember going up to Cumbria camping the day the drought broke in late August - spent all night digging drainage trenches round the tent to stop the run-off from the torrential downpour flooding inside... Apologies but I think you are a week too early. On 3 September 1976 the largest outbreak of Colorado beetle since 1947 was found in Thanet and the weather held for another couple of days. Then 1976 became one of the wettest years on record, it rained and rained and rained!. Yes I was there! [and got a promotion out of it as well as doing a live Pebble Mill at one after hardly sleeping for 48 hours] Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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