RMweb Gold big jim Posted May 31, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 31, 2015 The admission price was something that initially put me off going but i did in the end regardless, had i realised that for the price i could have also had a good look round the brewery museum (whether you should have or not i dont know) id have probably spent more time at that site! I know my workmate and fellow rmweb member who i met at the show was contemplating visiting again today as he was lodging in brum, id have probably done the same if i was staying closer last night Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf27 Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 As there have been a couple of murmurings about the admission charge,it might be appropriate here to observe that it includes two separate sites,free vintage bus transport between them and all weekend revisits.Yes I know I'm local but it was nice to just make a second visit this afternoon,despite the mother of a road traffic accident on the Trent Bridge and a first for me in that I had to u-turn half way across it and go via St.Peter's Bridge to reach the Town Hall.The return home had to be made via Repton! I did the same, outside the NBC. Traffic was ridiculous, going nowhere fast, now I know why! Cheers Shane Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 70000 Britannia Posted May 31, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 31, 2015 As there have been a couple of murmurings about the admission charge,it might be appropriate here to observe that it includes two separate sites,free vintage bus transport between them and all weekend revisits.Yes I know I'm local but it was nice to just make a second visit this afternoon,despite the mother of a road traffic accident on the Trent Bridge and a first for me in that I had to u-turn half way across it and go via St.Peter's Bridge to reach the Town Hall.The return home had to be made via Repton! Have been to DEMU numerous times - will continue to do so. Some very good layouts to be seen today. However, travel from Preston does not allow two-day visits really and I don't consider that £12 was justified, to be honest. If DEMU can justify the price for 2 days, then they should have a 1 day (e.g. £8/9), otherwise £12 is a false gesture for longer distance supporters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Lovely day, once again. Thanks to all the exhibitors/traders and volunteers etc The admission price, whilst initially looking expensive, didn't seem too bad when the following was factored in: Vintage Routemaster shuttle bus between sites 2 sites Access to the National Brewery Museum (usually 8.95 each). I don't have to travel far at least from Coventry, but both days would require a hotel/b&b for me on health grounds (would just become too tired to drive there/back from coventry twice in one weekend), so one day will suffice. The two sites did alleviate a fair bit the problem I felt last year and previous to that that the show has outgrown the town hall (though they had extra rooms this year too) due to its very deserved popularity. Certainly a show that I look forward to each year (along with Warley and Ally Pally, but those have different feel to DEMU Showcase, and probably now also expoEM after going earlier in the month) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tase Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 I've posted up a couple of videos on YouTube if anyone wants to see Hazelbank. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted May 31, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 31, 2015 If £12 for a whole day’s entertainment is expensive, where do you guys go for other types of entertainment at a cheaper price? Shows, gigs, concerts, sports events, museum visits, even a day out to a nature reserve can cost far more. I sometimes get the feeling that many people would like the layouts that grace the pages of the various comics to magically appear in their front rooms, to be operated by well-dressed and polite gentlemen, to run faultlessly and there be no other person viewing it. For free of course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Went Saturday and as Clive Mortimer has already said, we met up at Lunchtime and had a good but busy afternoon. Only a couple of purchases, a pair of Mk 1 coaches and some Railmatch Paint. Sat and chatted to Mick, (Bryan / New Bryford) and came away educated about yellow paint. Loved DitD, Wibbenshaw, Tonbridge West Yard. disappointed with Calcutta Sidings as I never really saw a proper length train running despite many visits back to see it, mainly light engine movements. I felt the Marquee worked well and the refreshment at both venues was more than satisfactory. Good show, if a little expensive, even though I could have gone back today for free, this wasn't advertised, (or I had missed it) and already had plans for Sunday unfortunately. As has been previously stated a one day / two day ticket price may have been better. Still looking forward to next year though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAndy Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 I can only echo what others have said - an absolutely tip top exhibition with ALL the exhibits being of the highest quality. A massive and hearty 'Well done' to the organisers. I really don't like to see any negative comments about admission prices, I mean, really? £12 for a whole days entertainment is not just cheap, it's outrageous how such a show can be put on for such little in the way of entry price............ C'mon guys, get a grip! Just to put it into perspective, when I got home ( having spent the full day at Burton ), my good lady wife informed me that our 7 year old daughter wants to go and see 'Wicked' at the Lowry theatre next month. She then told me that tickets are........wait for it..........£48 each!!! Yep, nearly 50 sheets per person for a show that lasts about 3 hours. I'm personally not going, but for my Wife and daughter that will be as near as damn it to £100 - and that's before you pay for car parking, petrol to get there, drinks, popcorn ( or whatever it is 7 year olds eat at the theatre these days ) and all for something that lasts a couple of hours. Kind of puts the paltry £12 that the DEMU organisers charged for a whole days entertainment, into a slightly different slant. Congratulations guys, I thoroughly enjoyed it. Cheers Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Godfrey Glyn Posted May 31, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 31, 2015 I went up on Saturday by train, via Reading and Birmingham and returned via Derby, St Pancreas, Waterloo and Winchester so the entry fee was a minor component of the cost of a day out. I paid £9 for my ticket to the exhibitions and frankly I can't think of any event that gives such value for money. Great as ever to see Warren Lane and receive such a warm welcome from Maggie and Alan - what lovely people they are. Really enjoyed all the layouts but particularly great to see Tonbridge West again. The trip back from Derby was exhilarating and if four drunken rugby supporters hadn't joined the train at Clapham the journey would have been perfect too! Quite honestly it was one of the best exhibitions that i have attended over the last few year and I would like to thank the organisers, helpers, exhibitors and traders for providing such an excellent day's entertainment and inspiration. Looking forward to next year! Many thanks to all who helped to make it such a good day out! Godfrey Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinWales Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 A huge thanks to the DEMU Showcase team from the Kinmundy Krew for an enjoyable exhibition. Venues were good, and the marquee was a bit of a novelty, but temperatures remained constant throughout the weekend. Hotel good and well located for all. Personally I was amazed how many non-D&E modellers I have been lucky to come into contact with over the years had attended-indeed about 75% of the contact circle that I know were there and made a special point of attending. With the carvery at a reasonable £7.25 not many were disappointed, and if you would have told me that there was a pub next door to the venue I probably wouldn't have believed you! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyram Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 If £12 for a whole day’s entertainment is expensive, where do you guys go for other types of entertainment at a cheaper price? Shows, gigs, concerts, sports events, museum visits, even a day out to a nature reserve can cost far more. I sometimes get the feeling that many people would like the layouts that grace the pages of the various comics to magically appear in their front rooms, to be operated by well-dressed and polite gentlemen, to run faultlessly and there be no other person viewing it. For free of course. As there have been a couple of murmurings about the admission charge,it might be appropriate here to observe that it includes two separate sites,free vintage bus transport between them and all weekend revisits.Yes I know I'm local but it was nice to just make a second visit this afternoon,despite the mother of a road traffic accident on the Trent Bridge and a first for me in that I had to u-turn half way across it and go via St.Peter's Bridge to reach the Town Hall.The return home had to be made via Repton! As one of the people who mentioned the admission price I do not dispute the point Clive makes. Many of the events he has alluded to do cost much more. However I think the comparison is made with other model railway events. Whilst Warley and some of the other very large events would have similar admission they are much larger than even an expanded DEMU. However an event such as Stafford which includes three halls and a free bus service is still less than a tenner to get in. Wirksworth is split across three venues, all be it a smaller event, but is also much cheaper. Yes the all weekend visit Ian alludes to does make the £12 better value. But not everyone wants to visit twice. Perhaps as was also mentioned on here a single day, cheaper price could have been considered. That being said I appreciate that venue hire and the costs of bringing together so many large layouts may have restricted the organisers in their choice of pricing. I know they try to give discounts to DEMU members which is fair enough. I am not going to criticise the organisers for their pricing. What I will say is it put me off going. I have visited the last two events and enjoyed them immensely despite being a steam era modeller. But the cost put me off going to a specialist diesel only show. I wonder how many other casual visitors may have been put off by the price, visitors who could have gone on to be future DEMU members. Anyway I do not want to be accused of being negative. From the layout list and the photos it looks like the show was a fantastic event and I hope it proved to be the success. I am sure it was a huge task for the organisers and congrats to them on putting together such an impressive diesel era line up. Good luck to them for future events. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugsley Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 It was a great show, and a great weekend. I had a thoroughly enjoyable time, as always. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
40F Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 As one of the people who mentioned the admission price I do not dispute the point Clive makes. Many of the events he has alluded to do cost much more. However I think the comparison is made with other model railway events. Whilst Warley and some of the other very large events would have similar admission they are much larger than even an expanded DEMU. However an event such as Stafford which includes three halls and a free bus service is still less than a tenner to get in. Wirksworth is split across three venues, all be it a smaller event, but is also much cheaper. Yes the all weekend visit Ian alludes to does make the £12 better value. But not everyone wants to visit twice. Perhaps as was also mentioned on here a single day, cheaper price could have been considered. That being said I appreciate that venue hire and the costs of bringing together so many large layouts may have restricted the organisers in their choice of pricing. I know they try to give discounts to DEMU members which is fair enough. I am not going to criticise the organisers for their pricing. What I will say is it put me off going. I have visited the last two events and enjoyed them immensely despite being a steam era modeller. But the cost put me off going to a specialist diesel only show. I wonder how many other casual visitors may have been put off by the price, visitors who could have gone on to be future DEMU members. Anyway I do not want to be accused of being negative. From the layout list and the photos it looks like the show was a fantastic event and I hope it proved to be the success. I am sure it was a huge task for the organisers and congrats to them on putting together such an impressive diesel era line up. Good luck to them for future events. I thought you were saving for a season ticket at Premier league prices for next season. Oh sorry Derby did not make it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobby (John) Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 I wonder how many other casual visitors may have been put off by the price, visitors who could have gone on to be future DEMU members.Attendance up, membership up ( new members ), renewals up.That should answer your question. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyram Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Great news that the show was a success. Congratulations. As for football comments. There is always next season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Phil Mc Posted May 31, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 31, 2015 Me, my son, and my dad, spent a thoroughly enjoyable day at the exhibition on Saturday! Maybe i'm in a fortunate position, but the entry price has little influence on whether I attend an exhibition or not, it's much more to do with the quality of the exhibits, and with the line up of layouts attending DEMU, there was no way I was going to miss it ! It was also good to see some of the suppliers that I don't usually see ( s-kits, railtec, r3sprays, etc ), its nice to actually speak to the people that make it possible for me to enjoy the hobby as much as I do, instead of just dealing with them in 'clicks' on a keyboard ! Well done to everyone concerned in organising the show !! Cheers, Phil. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium ELTEL Posted May 31, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 31, 2015 I can only echo what others have said - an absolutely tip top exhibition with ALL the exhibits being of the highest quality. A massive and hearty 'Well done' to the organisers. I really don't like to see any negative comments about admission prices, I mean, really? £12 for a whole days entertainment is not just cheap, it's outrageous how such a show can be put on for such little in the way of entry price............ C'mon guys, get a grip! Just to put it into perspective, when I got home ( having spent the full day at Burton ), my good lady wife informed me that our 7 year old daughter wants to go and see 'Wicked' at the Lowry theatre next month. She then told me that tickets are........wait for it..........£48 each!!! Yep, nearly 50 sheets per person for a show that lasts about 3 hours. I'm personally not going, but for my Wife and daughter that will be as near as damn it to £100 - and that's before you pay for car parking, petrol to get there, drinks, popcorn ( or whatever it is 7 year olds eat at the theatre these days ) and all for something that lasts a couple of hours. Well said Andy Terry Kind of puts the paltry £12 that the DEMU organisers charged for a whole days entertainment, into a slightly different slant. Congratulations guys, I thoroughly enjoyed it. Cheers Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Angelus Posted May 31, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 31, 2015 £ 12 for a two venue show that many visitors think is one of the best they have been to. Same as a Bachmann 7 plank wagon. QED I think. Terry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 70000 Britannia Posted May 31, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 31, 2015 Quite amusing to witness apparent offense when others express a view that goes against the grain/is perceived as negative - e.g. pricing. Doesn't alter the fact that £12 was a touch excessive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahame Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Doesn't alter the fact that £12 was a touch excessive. I'd have thought that's an opinon rather than a fact. In fact probably more a value judgement that would vary significantly from individual to individual. Certainly £12 is not excessive to some. G Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyram Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Quite amusing to witness apparent offense when others express a view that goes against the grain/is perceived as negative - e.g. pricing. Doesn't alter the fact that £12 was a touch excessive. I'd have thought that's an opinon rather than a fact. In fact probably more a value judgement that would vary significantly from individual to individual. Certainly £12 is not excessive to some. G At end of day the show was a success, enjoyed by lots of people. The admission price has had mixed reviews on here - some who think it was fine, some who think it is good value and others who think it was on the expensive side. I have stated my opinion, which is what it is - an opinion. Others have stated theirs and I respect them. I am not offended by anyone's different opinion, providing they do not write abusive replies and I hope no one who disagrees with my view is offended by my reasonings. Sounds like I missed a cracking show! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RMweb Premium newbryford Posted May 31, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 31, 2015 At end of day the show was a success, enjoyed by lots of people. The admission price has had mixed reviews on here - some who think it was fine, some who think it is good value and others who think it was on the expensive side. I have stated my opinion, which is what it is - an opinion. Others have stated theirs and I respect them. I am not offended by anyone's different opinion, providing they do not write abusive replies and I hope no one who disagrees with my view is offended by my reasonings. Sounds like I missed a cracking show! From the 2014 DEMU showcase thread Enjoyed the show - a good choice of layouts with BCB, Glenuig and New Bryford being the pick of the bunch for me. Great to see Tornado fly the flag for steam on New Bryford. The layout looked as good as ever and certainly entertained my little girl longer than any of the others. One small criticism - I do feel that £8.00 is a little bit on the steep side for entry especially as, with parking costs on top, the visit can reach almost a tenner before you even reach the trade. This is expensive when compared to some much larger shows in the local area. That being said this event does feature a free show guide which is full colour and one of the best I have ever seen. I would definitely recommend however. My bold. Hi Andy, Not offended at all. Sorry to quote you from last year, but yes, you did miss a cracking show and far better value than watching 22 grown men (supposedly) kicking a bag full of air around a bit of grass for 90 minutes other pastimes are available). Cheers, Mick p.s. if you really want to see a bunch of blokes whinging about the price of stuff, then try cycling. They will resist any parking charges and insist that it's a God given right to watch cycle events for free. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravenser Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 If £12 for a whole day’s entertainment is expensive, where do you guys go for other types of entertainment at a cheaper price? Shows, gigs, concerts, sports events, museum visits, even a day out to a nature reserve can cost far more. I sometimes get the feeling that many people would like the layouts that grace the pages of the various comics to magically appear in their front rooms, to be operated by well-dressed and polite gentlemen, to run faultlessly and there be no other person viewing it. For free of course. I'm shuddering to think what the petrol bill will be for my trip . About 3 times the full admissions price, if not more. Yes I got in under the DEMU members concession , but even so a plate of bacon and scrambled eggs with two pancales and a cup of tea at a Little Chef on the way home cost more than admission. For my ticket I got a brief look round part of the National Brewery Centre (was I the only person who went on the footplate of the 0-4-0T and had a look at the teak directors saloon , or had a peek in the brewery museum?) a wander round Burton Town Hall, a free bus ride and 5 hours at a show (And I still managed to miss Tonbridge W Yard and Widnes Vine Yard . Was there some other room in the Town Hall hidden by a labyrinth?) Frankly the admission price was the smallest part of the cost of the day out. I spent almost as much on two packets of Kadees I'm puzzled why a couple of quid more or less on the admission is such an emotive issue when it's a tiny fraction of the total cost of a show. We're arguing about 2% of the price of a new RTR loco There were no standout layouts - simply because the overall standard was so high . I would put Wibdenshaw and Hazelbank as my personal top two, followed by Farkham and Stoney Lane Depot with Fencehouses and Diesels in the Duchy just behind. But then I missed two major layouts, and I've seen Warren Lane at least half a dozen times, three times in 2 months and twice in 8 days. Would I be placing Hazelbank (which was new to me) quite so highly if I'd seen it so often? Odd to think that the space age APT-E with it's great dragon's head swinging from side to side looking for maidens/lineside equipment to devour is exactly in period for Wibdenshaw...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Mike Posted June 1, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 1, 2015 p.s. if you really want to see a bunch of blokes whinging about the price of stuff, then try cycling. They will resist any parking charges and insist that it's a God given right to watch cycle events for free. And all that despite having spent large amounts of money on their bikes! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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