atherton Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 21 hours ago, Chamby said: Hornby R30120. Available now, new stock at Rails and presumably other retailers. Easy enough to add a small yellow panel… I'm sure that it's a class 30 as there's no grille in the bodyside door which was put in at the time of conversion to a 31 with the EE engine. Also it's a toffee apple with the white window surround which will need to be painted to include the yellow panel, although I have seen a pic of D5515 with SYP and white window surrounds. Happy to be corrected on any of these points, but the have certainly put me off buying one! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted February 12 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 12 3 hours ago, jjb1970 said: On the model, the obvious answer ro all the stuff about duplication would be: -if you want a tip top 31 and want the Bachmann model then buy the Bachmann model; -if you want a tip top 31 and want the Accurascale model then buy the Accurascale model; -if you want a tip top 31 and you are not wedded to either manufacturer then take a look at the models being made by both, price and other factors which may matter to you and then decide which one to buy; and -if you're not interested in the 31 and are not intending to buy one then why does it matter and why would it vex you? I don't see why the decision making process of model suppliers in deciding which subjects to model is our business. If anything it gives us as consumers more choice and keeps producers on their toes if they know their release has to stand on its feet against a rival release. It could be worse, we could be collectors! Mike. 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Chamby Posted February 12 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 12 On 11/02/2024 at 06:58, Ray M said: Are AS or Bachmann doing a skinhead in Green SYP ? 57 minutes ago, atherton said: I'm sure that it's a class 30 as there's no grille in the bodyside door which was put in at the time of conversion to a 31 with the EE engine. Also it's a toffee apple with the white window surround which will need to be painted to include the yellow panel, although I have seen a pic of D5515 with SYP and white window surrounds. Happy to be corrected on any of these points, but the have certainly put me off buying one! @atherton you don’t need correcting, but I would point out that the OP only asked after a ‘skinhead’ and wasn’t specific about which variant! On a separate point, I find it interesting that the manufacturers are currently competing directly against each other with the first generation diesels. Does this reflect the fact that those of us who are arriving at retirement age will mostly recall BR in its early post-steam, blue era - and are therefore looking to this epoch when embarking upon a retirement project? Perhaps then, the hobby’s mainstream is finally moving up an epoch from late BR steam, at least in terms of where manufacturers perceive that the big money is being spent. 2 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 97406 Posted February 12 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 12 (edited) “I don’t need any more 31s!” say he. Then an AS IC Mainline one gets snapped up and I’m eyeing up the Bachy sector-liveried one! Confessions of a locoholic, part 134. Edited February 12 by 97406 3 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rorz101uk Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 I wonder if a Network Rail 31 will come out? 31465 or 31233? As Is doing the other 2, interesting times Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Black Hat Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 (edited) 17 hours ago, jjb1970 said: On the model, the obvious answer ro all the stuff about duplication would be: -if you want a tip top 31 and want the Bachmann model then buy the Bachmann model; -if you want a tip top 31 and want the Accurascale model then buy the Accurascale model; -if you want a tip top 31 and you are not wedded to either manufacturer then take a look at the models being made by both, price and other factors which may matter to you and then decide which one to buy; and -if you're not interested in the 31 and are not intending to buy one then why does it matter and why would it vex you? I don't see why the decision making process of model suppliers in deciding which subjects to model is our business. If anything it gives us as consumers more choice and keeps producers on their toes if they know their release has to stand on its feet against a rival release. Or... if you want full comparison over which class 31 is your preference ask Hornby to do 31407 in Mainline Blue... Edited February 12 by The Black Hat Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted February 13 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 13 (edited) Or buy shares on the real thing like me… Unashamedly promoting the A1aLocomotives and Type 1 Locomotive Company 😃 Roy Edited February 13 by Roy Langridge Finally put my glasses on to how badly I typed… 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Meerkat Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 hi all i looked few all the pages and i cant find the uncoupler video, i saw on page 3 (grinning) that some one saw the video. has any one got the link. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MikeParkin65 Posted February 13 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 13 2 hours ago, The Meerkat said: hi all i looked few all the pages and i cant find the uncoupler video, i saw on page 3 (grinning) that some one saw the video. has any one got the link. Its in the Bachmann launch video on Youtube Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Meerkat Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 2 minutes ago, MikeParkin65 said: Its in the Bachmann launch video on Youtube ahh thank you 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fredo Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 Hi, Will the model of D5617 suitable to be renumbered as D5631 or are there any differences? Thanks Fred Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hodgson Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 On 13/02/2024 at 06:56, Roy Langridge said: Or buy shares on the real thing like me… Unashamedly promoting the A1aLocomotives and Type 1 Locomotive Company 😃 Roy If your objective is preserving Type 1s and you have three locos, why is one of them a type 2 and another a Brush 4? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 I don’t think this has been mentioned before. This is from the Collectors’ Club magazine. “The locomotive will ease back to slacken the coupling, the coupling hook will rise, and in doing so will lift a paddle that disconnects the opposing coupling hook.“ Therefore, it should work even if the adjacent vehicle’s hook isn’t metal. Whether or not it works with the droopy couplings beloved of some manufacturers remains to be seen. 1 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
34theletterbetweenB&D Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 58 minutes ago, No Decorum said: Whether or not it works with the droopy couplings beloved of some manufacturers remains to be seen. This is a problem that anyone familiar with coupler set up for automatic coupling and uncoupling will be aware of. The owner has to take charge of consistent coupler position on all the stock the system has to work with. Hopefully Bachmann will think to mention that in the 'enclosed destructions'. 1 hour ago, No Decorum said: “The locomotive will ease back to slacken the coupling, the coupling hook will rise, and in doing so will lift a paddle that disconnects the opposing coupling hook.“ Some of Bachmann's (fine) rolling stock product that may well find itself coupled to a Brush 2 may defeat this method! Specifically their low rolling friction bogies on the Thompson carriages and Met-Camm Pullman cars. These have detected gradients on several layouts where the track is thought to be level, because they can roll away on a 1 in 200. Installing a small drag on the train end vehicles' axles is the solution. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrushVeteran Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 8 hours ago, Fredo said: Hi, Will the model of D5617 suitable to be renumbered as D5631 or are there any differences? Thanks Fred The forthcoming model by Bachmann of D5617 would be suitable for renumbering as D5631. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted February 14 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 14 8 hours ago, Michael Hodgson said: If your objective is preserving Type 1s and you have three locos, why is one of them a type 2 and another a Brush 4? Never understood that myself… Roy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AY Mod Posted February 14 Author Moderators Share Posted February 14 8 hours ago, No Decorum said: Whether or not it works with the droopy couplings beloved of some manufacturers remains to be seen. I did ask Bachmann how it would cope with droopy Heljan or Dapol couplings and they said it should uncouple ok from the tests done. Whether you can couple up is a different matter. 1 2 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRman Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 On 12/02/2024 at 17:53, atherton said: I'm sure that it's a class 30 as there's no grille in the bodyside door which was put in at the time of conversion to a 31 with the EE engine. Also it's a toffee apple with the white window surround which will need to be painted to include the yellow panel, although I have seen a pic of D5515 with SYP and white window surrounds. Happy to be corrected on any of these points, but the have certainly put me off buying one! I did all those things with my early Hornby version, as well as renumbering it to avoid an address clash on DCC. The one thing I didn't do was repaint the eggshell blue bands to off-white, a change that happened fairly early on with the Brush type 2 livery. I must fix that '2' that has partially rubbed off again. The crack apparent in the lower corner at left (in the photo) was the result of the dreaded mazak rot - Hornby sent me out a new chassis block. I was lucky to be able to catch it before more damage was done to the body. This also has an early attempt at the Mirrlees sounds from Howes. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 (edited) On 11/02/2024 at 06:58, Ray M said: Are AS or Bachmann doing a skinhead in Green SYP ? I think I see that the NRM exclusive is a skinhead. It is blue but at least it’s in the tooling suite, so I think eventually you’ll get your wish. Clang! Apologies for misinformation. The NRM exclusive is by Accurascale. Edited February 15 by No Decorum Correction. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halvarras Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 On 11/02/2024 at 06:58, Ray M said: Are AS or Bachmann doing a skinhead in Green SYP ? Sort of like this one, from a past era? (Appeared this morning.) https://elaines-trains.co.uk/index.php?cat=39235 Limited edition too, don't see these very often - suspect it won't be there for long..... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard RK3 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 On 12/02/2024 at 04:41, jjb1970 said: On the model, the obvious answer ro all the stuff about duplication would be: -if you want a tip top 31 and want the Bachmann model then buy the Bachmann model; -if you want a tip top 31 and want the Accurascale model then buy the Accurascale model; -if you want a tip top 31 and you are not wedded to either manufacturer then take a look at the models being made by both, price and other factors which may matter to you and then decide which one to buy; and -if you're not interested in the 31 and are not intending to buy one then why does it matter and why would it vex you? I don't see why the decision making process of model suppliers in deciding which subjects to model is our business. If anything it gives us as consumers more choice and keeps producers on their toes if they know their release has to stand on its feet against a rival release. Well to make it an even playing field, I have decided to go for one of each, I already have a Hornby version (31147) and will be getting no: 31319 from Bachmann and no: 31276 (the Key Model Special Edition) from Accurascale. It will be interesting to see how all three versions compare with each other, despite the Hornby version of course almost twenty years old! I'll probably do a similar thing with the Accurascale and retooled Bachmann Class 37s and have them go nose to nose as well! 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRman Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 17 minutes ago, Richard RK3 said: Well to make it an even playing field, I have decided to go for one of each, I already have a Hornby version (31147) and will be getting no: 31319 from Bachmann and no: 31276 (the Key Model Special Edition) from Accurascale. It will be interesting to see how all three versions compare with each other, despite the Hornby version of course almost twenty years old! I'll probably do a similar thing with the Accurascale and retooled Bachmann Class 37s and have them go nose to nose as well! I, for one, will be very interested in your comparisons. I'm sure all will be good, but will there be a clear "winner", or will it be a case of "swings and roundabouts". Of course, there's also value for money. It'll be an expensive exercise, but if you are buying the various models anyway, it will be worthwhile. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard RK3 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 (edited) 17 minutes ago, SRman said: I, for one, will be very interested in your comparisons. I'm sure all will be good, but will there be a clear "winner", or will it be a case of "swings and roundabouts". Of course, there's also value for money. It'll be an expensive exercise, but if you are buying the various models anyway, it will be worthwhile. Well, as they all happen to be examples I would have been after anyway, irrespective of whichever proves to be better or worse, they will all be staying, so it will still be our money's worth! Edited February 20 by Richard RK3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickL2008 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Well just looking at the EP / samples of each, I think the Hornby one has some competition, it was good for 2005, but thats almost 20 years ago now, it has its errors and weve lived with them before the Rot started. I too have ordered one from Bachmann and an Accurscale one, so lets see how they fair when they arrive NL 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard RK3 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 4 minutes ago, NickL2008 said: Well just looking at the EP / samples of each, I think the Hornby one has some competition, it was good for 2005, but that's almost 20 years ago now, it has its errors and we've lived with them before the Rot started. I too have ordered one from Bachmann and an Accurascale one, so lets see how they fair when they arrive NL Mind you, the Hornby version I own is actually a fairly recent one, no: 31147 (product no: R3880) which was released in 2021. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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